Dave Thompson O2 Man Inj.

Pierre Farrugia · 1st May 2005, 16:05

http://www.electricfilm.com/hammerhead.html Here one can see that Dave thompson has his Oxygen Valve exchanged with the dump valve, why is this ? Is this to remove water from the exhale lung? Have someone tried this ?

Pierre

***Decodiver*** · 1st May 2005, 17:02

Hi Pierre,

I may be wrong but this could be one of the early Buddy prototypes of the Inspiration, there is no case and the handsets are smaller.

The positioning of the dump valve at the bottom of the exhale counterlung is far better suited to clearing water from the lung. The Meg has the same system.

Now you can invert on the Inspiration to achieve the same effect, unfortunately if you have a loop flood you may then soak your head.

Not a good idea!!

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

Pierre Farrugia · 1st May 2005, 17:56

WHy is it more possible to soak the head ? The problem I tought of was that it will be more difficult to dump from lung! Also how you can dump water from an exhale lung on a meg?

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Hi Pierre,

I may be wrong but this could be one of the early Buddy prototypes of the Inspiration, there is no case and the handsets are smaller.

The positioning of the dump valve at the bottom of the exhale counterlung is far better suited to clearing water from the lung. The Meg has the same system.

Now you can invert on the Inspiration to achieve the same effect, unfortunately if you have a loop flood you may then soak your head.

Not a good idea!!

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

***Decodiver*** · 1st May 2005, 18:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by Pierre Farrugia)

Why is it more possible to soak the head ? The problem I tought of was that it will be more difficult to dump from lung! Also how you can dump water from an exhale lung on a meg?

1. If you have a partially flooded scrubber on the Inspiration and you invert yourself you may flood the head, simple question of gravity. To be able to dump water from the Inspiration OPV you have to be inverted or at least have the OPV at the lowest point of your body, again a simple question of gravity.

2. The ADV and OPV on the Meg are on the exhale counterlung and the manual O2 addition is on the inhale counterlung. So if you have water in the exhale counterlung, you fire up the ADV and flush it out through the OPV on the lung. I get students to flood and empty the lung at least 3 times on the Meg course.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

sensor330 · 1st May 2005, 18:14

Is it possible to put the dump valve in the place of the O2 add button? I'm 9 days away from recieving my YBOD and I'm already starting to think of things I want to change from the current config.

Scott

***Decodiver*** · 1st May 2005, 18:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330)

Is it possible to put the dump valve in the place of the O2 add button? I'm 9 days away from recieving my YBOD and I'm already starting to think of things I want to change from the current config.

Scott

Hi Scott,

I am not so persuaded of the benefits of doing so. Don't get me wrong, I like the set-up on the Meg, but am also comfortable with that of the Inspiration.

The placement of the OPV on the Inspiration facilitates gas dumping on ascent, you would have to roll to the left and dump if you change it's location.

Proper assembly and predive checks "should" stop you needing to dump water from a flooded counterlung.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

sensor330 · 1st May 2005, 18:32

Good point. Do Meg divers also need to roll one way to dump gas on assent?

Scott

***Decodiver*** · 1st May 2005, 18:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330)

Good point. Do Meg divers also need to roll one way to dump gas on assent?

Scott

Hi Scott,

If you are ascending horizontally you need to roll to the right to operate the OPV.

If you are ascending vertically you need to arch your back making the OPV at the highest point to get it to work.

Alternatively you can just dump the gas from your mouth around the mouthpiece.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

ROB DAVIE · 1st May 2005, 18:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Alternatively you can just dump the gas from your mouth around the mouthpiece.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

Dave,

I prefer the technical term "pooch", as in to "pooch out a little gas around the mouthpiece" (derived from the position of the mouth and the sound the gas makes upon departure).

Rob

***Decodiver*** · 1st May 2005, 18:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE)

Dave,

I prefer the technical term "pooch", as in to "pooch out a little gas around the mouthpiece" (derived from the position of the mouth and the sound the gas makes upon departure).

Rob

Aren't pooches what old people allow to shit on the pavement?

Cheers,

Dave.

1st May 2005, 16:05	#1 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	Dave Thompson O2 Man Inj. http://www.electricfilm.com/hammerhead.html Here one can see that Dave thompson has his Oxygen Valve exchanged with the dump valve, why is this ? Is this to remove water from the exhale lung? Have someone tried this ? Pierre __________________ Pierre Farrugia My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com
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1st May 2005, 17:02	#2 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,190	Hi Pierre, I may be wrong but this could be one of the early Buddy prototypes of the Inspiration, there is no case and the handsets are smaller. The positioning of the dump valve at the bottom of the exhale counterlung is far better suited to clearing water from the lung. The Meg has the same system. Now you can invert on the Inspiration to achieve the same effect, unfortunately if you have a loop flood you may then soak your head. Not a good idea!! Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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1st May 2005, 17:56	#3 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	WHy is it more possible to soak the head ? The problem I tought of was that it will be more difficult to dump from lung! Also how you can dump water from an exhale lung on a meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Hi Pierre, I may be wrong but this could be one of the early Buddy prototypes of the Inspiration, there is no case and the handsets are smaller. The positioning of the dump valve at the bottom of the exhale counterlung is far better suited to clearing water from the lung. The Meg has the same system. Now you can invert on the Inspiration to achieve the same effect, unfortunately if you have a loop flood you may then soak your head. Not a good idea!! Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ Pierre Farrugia My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com
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1st May 2005, 18:03	#4 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,190	Quote: (Originally Posted by Pierre Farrugia) Why is it more possible to soak the head ? The problem I tought of was that it will be more difficult to dump from lung! Also how you can dump water from an exhale lung on a meg? 1. If you have a partially flooded scrubber on the Inspiration and you invert yourself you may flood the head, simple question of gravity. To be able to dump water from the Inspiration OPV you have to be inverted or at least have the OPV at the lowest point of your body, again a simple question of gravity. 2. The ADV and OPV on the Meg are on the exhale counterlung and the manual O2 addition is on the inhale counterlung. So if you have water in the exhale counterlung, you fire up the ADV and flush it out through the OPV on the lung. I get students to flood and empty the lung at least 3 times on the Meg course. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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1st May 2005, 18:14	#5 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 593	Is it possible to put the dump valve in the place of the O2 add button? I'm 9 days away from recieving my YBOD and I'm already starting to think of things I want to change from the current config. Scott
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1st May 2005, 18:23	#6 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,190	Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330) Is it possible to put the dump valve in the place of the O2 add button? I'm 9 days away from recieving my YBOD and I'm already starting to think of things I want to change from the current config. Scott Hi Scott, I am not so persuaded of the benefits of doing so. Don't get me wrong, I like the set-up on the Meg, but am also comfortable with that of the Inspiration. The placement of the OPV on the Inspiration facilitates gas dumping on ascent, you would have to roll to the left and dump if you change it's location. Proper assembly and predive checks "should" stop you needing to dump water from a flooded counterlung. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 593	Good point. Do Meg divers also need to roll one way to dump gas on assent? Scott
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1st May 2005, 18:36	#8 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,190	Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330) Good point. Do Meg divers also need to roll one way to dump gas on assent? Scott Hi Scott, If you are ascending horizontally you need to roll to the right to operate the OPV. If you are ascending vertically you need to arch your back making the OPV at the highest point to get it to work. Alternatively you can just dump the gas from your mouth around the mouthpiece. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Technical terms.... Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Alternatively you can just dump the gas from your mouth around the mouthpiece. Cheers, Dave Cooper. Dave, I prefer the technical term "pooch", as in to "pooch out a little gas around the mouthpiece" (derived from the position of the mouth and the sound the gas makes upon departure). Rob __________________ "CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving WHEN PIGS FLY!!"--GI3
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*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,190	Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE) Dave, I prefer the technical term "pooch", as in to "pooch out a little gas around the mouthpiece" (derived from the position of the mouth and the sound the gas makes upon departure). Rob Aren't pooches what old people allow to shit on the pavement? Cheers, Dave. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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