Position of "T" pieces ?

colinicky · 18th March 2006, 06:47

As it says were should they be when you are stood upright with the unit on your back with all the straps done up ? On the Top of your shoulders ? Sitting down the back or front of your shoulders ?
Mine seem to sit just on the back of my shoulders which means I have to go head down & shunt the unit forwards so I can reach the ADV or shut off .Dont normally nead to but there may be a time .
TIA

Nick uk. · 18th March 2006, 07:23

It's gravity pulling them back with unit being out of the water. When you get in the water and you are in a face down position they change slightly the position. It is important you can reach the ADV and if you have one the flo-stop, if not you'll have to make some adjustmants to the harness you are using.

colinicky · 18th March 2006, 08:08

That is the problem Nick I can't reach the flow stop in water unless I go head down to shunt the unit forwards .
In water should they be on the top of your shoulders (relatively speaking )? The unit itself feels in the right position so the only option would be to cut & move the counterlung .Other than reaching the damned things does it actually matter were the "T"s are within a couple of inchs either way ?ie does it really affect wob ?

Nick uk. · 18th March 2006, 16:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

That is the problem Nick I can't reach the flow stop in water unless I go head down to shunt the unit forwards .
In water should they be on the top of your shoulders (relatively speaking )? The unit itself feels in the right position so the only option would be to cut & move the counterlung .Other than reaching the damned things does it actually matter were the "T"s are within a couple of inchs either way ?ie does it really affect wob ?

Do you have fast connect buckles pulled down on the counterlungs? Try undoing the harness and move the lungs up a notch if you have an extra hole, mine has two at the top and two at the bottom, use the one's lower down to move the lungs forward down your chest. when your in the water tighten up all the straps, and then re-tighten them at 6mt. perhaps you've got the harness and lung straps a bit loose and the whole thing is moving 'south'. As far as wob is concerned it shouldn't matter much, do you find it hard breathe??

colinicky · 18th March 2006, 17:02

Hi Nick
No extra holes I'm assuming you mean the hole that holds it to the case ?
everything is tight even at 20 metres .there is no problem with wob ,just wondered if it would affect it if the T was moved more to the front of the shoulder .
standard vision harness medium

Nick uk. · 18th March 2006, 19:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Hi Nick
No extra holes I'm assuming you mean the hole that holds it to the case ?
everything is tight even at 20 metres .there is no problem with wob ,just wondered if it would affect it if the T was moved more to the front of the shoulder .
standard vision harness medium

It may be difficult to see from my avatar, but in the picture you can see the 'T' sit more or less on top of my shoulders, and the flo-stop is not just a bit of a bugger to reach!! but in the water, without the gravitational pull of the unit wanting to reach the floor.....evrything comes to about ear level and is quite easy to reach. You have a medium harness, do you have medium lungs too? perhaps you could get hold of some large lungs and give them a try, or failing that you could add a second hole on the material of the lungs where they attach to the harness, if you check out the gallery there should be a foto or two of my lungs and you will see that i have two holes in them, quite easy to do using ss ringlets, and a hammer.

Hope you work something out, it's a PITA when everything isn't 'just so'. I'm still wacking my head against a brick wall with my 'Y' from delta P........

Cheers, Nick.

colinicky · 18th March 2006, 19:35

Had a look at some of your other pics & yes I can see were your T's are ,mine are in this position in water .on my vision there is only 1 hole to mount the lungs on the top case bolt no bottom one at all .think 1 will try moving the hole by 1 or 2 inchs & see what happens .
many thanks for the comments Nick .
ATB

Nick uk. · 18th March 2006, 21:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Had a look at some of your other pics & yes I can see were your T's are ,mine are in this position in water .on my vision there is only 1 hole to mount the lungs on the top case bolt no bottom one at all .think 1 will try moving the hole by 1 or 2 inchs & see what happens .
many thanks for the comments Nick .
ATB

Any time Colin, take care, have fun. Nick.

18th March 2006, 06:47	#1 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 682	Position of "T" pieces ? As it says were should they be when you are stood upright with the unit on your back with all the straps done up ? On the Top of your shoulders ? Sitting down the back or front of your shoulders ? Mine seem to sit just on the back of my shoulders which means I have to go head down & shunt the unit forwards so I can reach the ADV or shut off .Dont normally nead to but there may be a time . TIA __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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18th March 2006, 07:23	#2 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: Position of "T" pieces ? It's gravity pulling them back with unit being out of the water. When you get in the water and you are in a face down position they change slightly the position. It is important you can reach the ADV and if you have one the flo-stop, if not you'll have to make some adjustmants to the harness you are using. __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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18th March 2006, 08:08	#3 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 682	Re: Position of "T" pieces ? That is the problem Nick I can't reach the flow stop in water unless I go head down to shunt the unit forwards . In water should they be on the top of your shoulders (relatively speaking )? The unit itself feels in the right position so the only option would be to cut & move the counterlung .Other than reaching the damned things does it actually matter were the "T"s are within a couple of inchs either way ?ie does it really affect wob ? __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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18th March 2006, 16:55	#4 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: Position of "T" pieces ? Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) That is the problem Nick I can't reach the flow stop in water unless I go head down to shunt the unit forwards . In water should they be on the top of your shoulders (relatively speaking )? The unit itself feels in the right position so the only option would be to cut & move the counterlung .Other than reaching the damned things does it actually matter were the "T"s are within a couple of inchs either way ?ie does it really affect wob ? Do you have fast connect buckles pulled down on the counterlungs? Try undoing the harness and move the lungs up a notch if you have an extra hole, mine has two at the top and two at the bottom, use the one's lower down to move the lungs forward down your chest. when your in the water tighten up all the straps, and then re-tighten them at 6mt. perhaps you've got the harness and lung straps a bit loose and the whole thing is moving 'south'. As far as wob is concerned it shouldn't matter much, do you find it hard breathe?? __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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18th March 2006, 17:02	#5 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 682	Re: Position of "T" pieces ? Hi Nick No extra holes I'm assuming you mean the hole that holds it to the case ? everything is tight even at 20 metres .there is no problem with wob ,just wondered if it would affect it if the T was moved more to the front of the shoulder . standard vision harness medium __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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18th March 2006, 19:03	#6 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: Position of "T" pieces ? Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Hi Nick No extra holes I'm assuming you mean the hole that holds it to the case ? everything is tight even at 20 metres .there is no problem with wob ,just wondered if it would affect it if the T was moved more to the front of the shoulder . standard vision harness medium It may be difficult to see from my avatar, but in the picture you can see the 'T' sit more or less on top of my shoulders, and the flo-stop is not just a bit of a bugger to reach!! but in the water, without the gravitational pull of the unit wanting to reach the floor.....evrything comes to about ear level and is quite easy to reach. You have a medium harness, do you have medium lungs too? perhaps you could get hold of some large lungs and give them a try, or failing that you could add a second hole on the material of the lungs where they attach to the harness, if you check out the gallery there should be a foto or two of my lungs and you will see that i have two holes in them, quite easy to do using ss ringlets, and a hammer. Hope you work something out, it's a PITA when everything isn't 'just so'. I'm still wacking my head against a brick wall with my 'Y' from delta P........ Cheers, Nick. __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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18th March 2006, 19:35	#7 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 682	Re: Position of "T" pieces ? Had a look at some of your other pics & yes I can see were your T's are ,mine are in this position in water .on my vision there is only 1 hole to mount the lungs on the top case bolt no bottom one at all .think 1 will try moving the hole by 1 or 2 inchs & see what happens . many thanks for the comments Nick . ATB __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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18th March 2006, 21:09	#8 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: Position of "T" pieces ? Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Had a look at some of your other pics & yes I can see were your T's are ,mine are in this position in water .on my vision there is only 1 hole to mount the lungs on the top case bolt no bottom one at all .think 1 will try moving the hole by 1 or 2 inchs & see what happens . many thanks for the comments Nick . ATB Any time Colin, take care, have fun. Nick. __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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