It's Here...

Mark Wan · 3rd March 2006, 21:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.)

So what's the answer then??

If you use APD cam bands, which is what I've got, you need to bend the metal D first. I haven't done it yet, because I don't have a vice handy, but I intend to do so.

***Beanie*** · 3rd March 2006, 21:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.)

So what's the answer then??

http://www.outlawdivers.org.uk/index.asp?page=107

is the answer

Nick uk. · 3rd March 2006, 22:13

Hmmm, lets see what i come up with......as ever, hpoto's to follow.

wilsonjls · 15th March 2006, 11:53

OK First to Phi, Mine has been wet for 4 dives now with lots more comming. Mark has the right answer the 10/13s work great. No idea what the bending thing is about... They work straight out of the box. As for the length since I have no intention of putting anything on my unit larger than the 3 liter cylinders we cut the straps down and it is slick.

The only problem I have and this is one I will talk with Phi about is the frame is just a tad small for a fourth cell holder and the new Vision electronics. Basically, the fourth Cell wire to the VR3 doesn't fit without extreme pressure on the wire beyond what I want. I plan to have my frame taken to my dive buddy's shop ( He does SS welding for a living ) and have him make a few very minor adjustments to get the necessary space for the wire. Other than that it's awesome.. Oh and it's way more comefortable on my back that the YBOD.

Nick uk. · 15th March 2006, 12:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by wilsonjls)

The only problem I have and this is one I will talk with Phi about is the frame is just a tad small for a fourth cell holder and the new Vision electronics. Basically, the fourth Cell wire to the VR3 doesn't fit without extreme pressure on the wire beyond what I want. I plan to have my frame taken to my dive buddy's shop ( He does SS welding for a living ) and have him make a few very minor adjustments to get the necessary space for the wire. Other than that it's awesome.. Oh and it's way more comefortable on my back that the YBOD.

Are you talking about the 'Y' from delta P, i have the same problem, but am willing to bend it in a bit...

decoweenie · 15th March 2006, 15:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by wilsonjls)

The only problem I have and this is one I will talk with Phi about is the frame is just a tad small for a fourth cell holder and the new Vision electronics.

Thanks, that's one combination that I don't think we tested since we didn't have the 4th-cell holder.

However, I should be receiving my 4th-cell holder soon and will mount it on the Vision Inspiration to understand the problem you described better.

Then we will work on a remedy for it. However, I would be interested in seeing what solution you come up with...

**Gill Envy** · 15th March 2006, 21:30

how freaken cool!! the whole thing, i'm thinking of ordering two frames before the evo's even arrive. How hard are they to order, and how much? and would it be best to wait till we get used to the standard set up before we start

we do have a couple experienced folks around here who could help us tear down and build up.
i'm probably not being realistic about timing, my wife is still getting over the initial outlay...i should probably be more sensative about that...or not

decoweenie · 15th March 2006, 21:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gillenvy)

...i'm thinking of ordering two frames before the evo's even arrive...

I don't know how long before your Evo units arrived.

If you have to wait for more than a few months, then I would suggest that you just wait for the units to arrive first.

Most likely you will have to do the course with the standard configuration anyway - depending on your instructor. Or your instructor might be inclined to help in transferring to the new frames...

Regardless, THIS is the site where you could find the details for the order later.

wilsonjls · 18th March 2006, 11:46

Phi, Yes we are talking about the Y version of the 4th Cell from Delta-P and in my case the pressure on the wire from the unit is more than I want to trust. Were I to gues I would say the frame needs to be at most 3/4 of an inch taller to accomodate the wire. As for the rest. I had expected the drag to be way reduced which it is. OMG Thank you so much. But the real surprise was the comfort factor. It is so much more comfortable on my back and to dive with.

Regards Jim

dave t · 18th March 2006, 12:41

the travel frame was tested with the forth cell holder on the evo cannister and the classic cannister, but not the inspo vision (I didnt have one of those)

and it fits if you bring the cable out between the top frame and the back vertical tube and bring the cable over your right shoulder.

One problem that will compound this, if you have recently bought your cell holder, Kevin has changed the shape, it is now taller than before, but we didnt know that was gonna happen

Dave

3rd March 2006, 21:22	#11 (permalink)
Mark Wan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hammersmith, London Posts: 59	Re: It's Here... Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.) So what's the answer then?? If you use APD cam bands, which is what I've got, you need to bend the metal D first. I haven't done it yet, because I don't have a vice handy, but I intend to do so. __________________ newbie inspo vision diver
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3rd March 2006, 21:52	#12 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,292	Re: It's Here... Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.) So what's the answer then?? http://www.outlawdivers.org.uk/index.asp?page=107 is the answer __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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3rd March 2006, 22:13	#13 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: It's Here... Hmmm, lets see what i come up with......as ever, hpoto's to follow. __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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15th March 2006, 11:53	#14 (permalink)
wilsonjls New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Connecticut USA Posts: 2	Re: It's Here... OK First to Phi, Mine has been wet for 4 dives now with lots more comming. Mark has the right answer the 10/13s work great. No idea what the bending thing is about... They work straight out of the box. As for the length since I have no intention of putting anything on my unit larger than the 3 liter cylinders we cut the straps down and it is slick. The only problem I have and this is one I will talk with Phi about is the frame is just a tad small for a fourth cell holder and the new Vision electronics. Basically, the fourth Cell wire to the VR3 doesn't fit without extreme pressure on the wire beyond what I want. I plan to have my frame taken to my dive buddy's shop ( He does SS welding for a living ) and have him make a few very minor adjustments to get the necessary space for the wire. Other than that it's awesome.. Oh and it's way more comefortable on my back that the YBOD.
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15th March 2006, 12:13	#15 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: It's Here... Quote: (Originally Posted by wilsonjls) The only problem I have and this is one I will talk with Phi about is the frame is just a tad small for a fourth cell holder and the new Vision electronics. Basically, the fourth Cell wire to the VR3 doesn't fit without extreme pressure on the wire beyond what I want. I plan to have my frame taken to my dive buddy's shop ( He does SS welding for a living ) and have him make a few very minor adjustments to get the necessary space for the wire. Other than that it's awesome.. Oh and it's way more comefortable on my back that the YBOD. Are you talking about the 'Y' from delta P, i have the same problem, but am willing to bend it in a bit... __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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15th March 2006, 15:53	#16 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: It's Here... Quote: (Originally Posted by wilsonjls) The only problem I have and this is one I will talk with Phi about is the frame is just a tad small for a fourth cell holder and the new Vision electronics. Thanks, that's one combination that I don't think we tested since we didn't have the 4th-cell holder. However, I should be receiving my 4th-cell holder soon and will mount it on the Vision Inspiration to understand the problem you described better. Then we will work on a remedy for it. However, I would be interested in seeing what solution you come up with... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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15th March 2006, 21:30	#17 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Divers Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,341	Re: It's Here... how freaken cool!! the whole thing, i'm thinking of ordering two frames before the evo's even arrive. How hard are they to order, and how much? and would it be best to wait till we get used to the standard set up before we start we do have a couple experienced folks around here who could help us tear down and build up. i'm probably not being realistic about timing, my wife is still getting over the initial outlay...i should probably be more sensative about that...or not __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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15th March 2006, 21:45	#18 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: It's Here... Quote: (Originally Posted by Gillenvy) ...i'm thinking of ordering two frames before the evo's even arrive... I don't know how long before your Evo units arrived. If you have to wait for more than a few months, then I would suggest that you just wait for the units to arrive first. Most likely you will have to do the course with the standard configuration anyway - depending on your instructor. Or your instructor might be inclined to help in transferring to the new frames... Regardless, THIS is the site where you could find the details for the order later. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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18th March 2006, 11:46	#19 (permalink)
wilsonjls New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Connecticut USA Posts: 2	Re: It's Here... Phi, Yes we are talking about the Y version of the 4th Cell from Delta-P and in my case the pressure on the wire from the unit is more than I want to trust. Were I to gues I would say the frame needs to be at most 3/4 of an inch taller to accomodate the wire. As for the rest. I had expected the drag to be way reduced which it is. OMG Thank you so much. But the real surprise was the comfort factor. It is so much more comfortable on my back and to dive with. Regards Jim
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18th March 2006, 12:41	#20 (permalink)
dave t RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 659	Re: It's Here... the travel frame was tested with the forth cell holder on the evo cannister and the classic cannister, but not the inspo vision (I didnt have one of those) and it fits if you bring the cable out between the top frame and the back vertical tube and bring the cable over your right shoulder. One problem that will compound this, if you have recently bought your cell holder, Kevin has changed the shape, it is now taller than before, but we didnt know that was gonna happen Dave
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