Software Vision !!!

Nick uk. · 23rd February 2006, 23:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Noo i just meant KISS not the KISS just KISS.

In response to not trusting electronics

I dive a classic inspo

Yeh, the 'oldies' are often the best!

**nigelh** · 24th February 2006, 10:41

Mine turned up in the email.
List of fixes reads good.
Loaded.
Will dive on Saterday (only a Quarry scooter testing).

***schford*** · 25th February 2006, 16:34

so just so every one know whats in it....

Quote:

V02.01.01 incorporates several improvements over previous versions:

1) The dive timer routine has been moved to a separate time slot to other save functions and this ensures dive time accuracy throughout the dive.
2) The switch timing has been amended to improve the switch operation – making it easier to adjust settings.
3) The OTU and CNS warnings have been moved to 100%, as opposed to activating at 80%. The CNS oxygen toxicity table has been capped at the 1.8 value of 2 minutes, so spiking the PPO2 above 1.8 only adds 8% CNS per 10 seconds rather than 255%.
4) Oxygen addition routine improved to give faster PO2 recovery during ascents.
a. The solenoid closed time has been reduced from 6 secs to 3 secs
b. The solenoid closed time is only active when the PO2 is more than 0.05 below setpoint. This means the solenoid is opened continuously 0.05 bar and more below setpoint.
5) The oxygen sensor voting system for the time being is the same as the original Inspiration – the PO2 is assumed to be the average of the closest two and the third is ignored. The cell validation system mentioned in the Vision manuals is deactivated for the time being.
6) In this version the Danish language has been added to English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Flemish, and Czech.
7) In the French language version TTS (time to surface) has been replaced with DTR (Durée Totale de Remontée).
8) The German Text graphics have 5 changes:
9) changed ZZO into TTS
changed the S1 and S2 to C1 and C2.
changed "Sollwert" to Setpoint
“edit_diluent”_changed to " DIL AENDERN "
“edit_gas” changed to " GAS AENDERN "
10) The TTS calculation has been stabilised to prevent the values over-reacting to small PO2 changes.
11) Modified the Dive timer version’s display to show dive time in large characters on line 4.
12) The ascent rate buffer has been modified to make the ascent speed warning less sensitive.
13) Screen resource locking has been used around the gas edit menu preventing screen corruption.
14) A save/use option has been added after gas edit to allow editing without selection.
15) The logbook display pointer has been modified to always start on last logged dive on entry, instead of the first logged dive.
16) Additional diagnostics have been added to detect and handle depth sensor failure: In the event of an electrical failure of the depth sensor being detected on start up the diver will get an option to Dive Now, Y or N? If you select Yes, you are then prompted to calibrate – if Yes is selected then you have to enter the atmospheric pressure manually, the same as the Classic Inspiration electronics and then when it goes into Dive mode it will resort to Dive timer mode – showing only PPO2 and battery information. Should the pressure sensor fail electrically whilst underwater – a red light is shown on each HUD , the buzzer sounds, Pressure Sensor Failure is displayed on the handset. This alarm may be suppressed by pressing and holding the right switch for 2 secs. The depth, and decompression information freezes at this juncture. Since the unit can no longer detect depth, it will not detect the end of dive so when on the surface you would need to remove the batteries to power down.

divetheworld · 25th February 2006, 18:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

so just so every one know whats in it....

Is that all?

Well, good job there werent any serious bugs before they put them out into the masses then.

colinicky · 25th February 2006, 19:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

Is that all?

Well, good job there werent any serious bugs before they put them out into the masses then.

Yep these Beta test products get better all the time !

**nigelh** · 26th February 2006, 10:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh)

Will dive on Saterday (only a Quarry scooter testing).

Dive time now matched the Uwatec DT.
Now to get it in the sea and compare the deco algorithm with the toys I'm used to.

Allan_o · 26th February 2006, 15:27

Thanx matt.

That was my next gues.

made a dive for a litlle over an hour without any problems with the new software.

obs normal througout the dive.

all alarms went off as programmed by Ap.

the dive was at max 4meters in the local pool.
it is very nice that the touch indicating pads are responding a lot better now..

Regards Allan

UKSteve · 27th February 2006, 08:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

so just so every one know whats in it....

5) The oxygen sensor voting system for the time being is the same as the original Inspiration – the PO2 is assumed to be the average of the closest two and the third is ignored. The cell validation system mentioned in the Vision manuals is deactivated for the time being.

....

This was inthe middle of a lot of more mundane stuff in the list of changes to the Vision software but there has been little or no comment about it. Anyone know why this change has been made?

The cell validation was a feature that appears to make a lot of sense and should help to identify current-limited cells, particularly if you are unlucky enough to experience two current limited cells sumultaneously.

I wonder how long this is going to remain disabled?

Steve

PeteS · 27th February 2006, 09:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by UKSteve)

This was inthe middle of a lot of more mundane stuff in the list of changes to the Vision software but there has been little or no comment about it. Anyone know why this change has been made?

The cell validation was a feature that appears to make a lot of sense and should help to identify current-limited cells, particularly if you are unlucky enough to experience two current limited cells sumultaneously.

I wonder how long this is going to remain disabled?

And why is it being disabled?

Dennis · 27th February 2006, 19:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by PeteS)

And why is it being disabled?

I picked up on this when I got the upgrade, and asked Nicky. She didn't know why, but has said she will speak to the software people and get back to me (Didn't say when though!).

Dennis

23rd February 2006, 23:16	#11 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: Software Vision !!! Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Noo i just meant KISS not the KISS just KISS. In response to not trusting electronics I dive a classic inspo Yeh, the 'oldies' are often the best! __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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24th February 2006, 10:41	#12 (permalink)
nigelh New member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 873	Re: Software Vision !!! Mine turned up in the email. List of fixes reads good. Loaded. Will dive on Saterday (only a Quarry scooter testing). __________________ nigelh
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25th February 2006, 16:34	#13 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Re: Software Vision !!! so just so every one know whats in it.... Quote: V02.01.01 incorporates several improvements over previous versions: 1) The dive timer routine has been moved to a separate time slot to other save functions and this ensures dive time accuracy throughout the dive. 2) The switch timing has been amended to improve the switch operation – making it easier to adjust settings. 3) The OTU and CNS warnings have been moved to 100%, as opposed to activating at 80%. The CNS oxygen toxicity table has been capped at the 1.8 value of 2 minutes, so spiking the PPO2 above 1.8 only adds 8% CNS per 10 seconds rather than 255%. 4) Oxygen addition routine improved to give faster PO2 recovery during ascents. a. The solenoid closed time has been reduced from 6 secs to 3 secs b. The solenoid closed time is only active when the PO2 is more than 0.05 below setpoint. This means the solenoid is opened continuously 0.05 bar and more below setpoint. 5) The oxygen sensor voting system for the time being is the same as the original Inspiration – the PO2 is assumed to be the average of the closest two and the third is ignored. The cell validation system mentioned in the Vision manuals is deactivated for the time being. 6) In this version the Danish language has been added to English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, German, Flemish, and Czech. 7) In the French language version TTS (time to surface) has been replaced with DTR (Durée Totale de Remontée). 8) The German Text graphics have 5 changes: 9) changed ZZO into TTS changed the S1 and S2 to C1 and C2. changed "Sollwert" to Setpoint “edit_diluent”_changed to " DIL AENDERN " “edit_gas” changed to " GAS AENDERN " 10) The TTS calculation has been stabilised to prevent the values over-reacting to small PO2 changes. 11) Modified the Dive timer version’s display to show dive time in large characters on line 4. 12) The ascent rate buffer has been modified to make the ascent speed warning less sensitive. 13) Screen resource locking has been used around the gas edit menu preventing screen corruption. 14) A save/use option has been added after gas edit to allow editing without selection. 15) The logbook display pointer has been modified to always start on last logged dive on entry, instead of the first logged dive. 16) Additional diagnostics have been added to detect and handle depth sensor failure: In the event of an electrical failure of the depth sensor being detected on start up the diver will get an option to Dive Now, Y or N? If you select Yes, you are then prompted to calibrate – if Yes is selected then you have to enter the atmospheric pressure manually, the same as the Classic Inspiration electronics and then when it goes into Dive mode it will resort to Dive timer mode – showing only PPO2 and battery information. Should the pressure sensor fail electrically whilst underwater – a red light is shown on each HUD , the buzzer sounds, Pressure Sensor Failure is displayed on the handset. This alarm may be suppressed by pressing and holding the right switch for 2 secs. The depth, and decompression information freezes at this juncture. Since the unit can no longer detect depth, it will not detect the end of dive so when on the surface you would need to remove the batteries to power down. __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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25th February 2006, 18:36	#14 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,630	Re: Software Vision !!! Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) so just so every one know whats in it.... Is that all? Well, good job there werent any serious bugs before they put them out into the masses then. __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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25th February 2006, 19:04	#15 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 678	Re: Software Vision !!! Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld) Is that all? Well, good job there werent any serious bugs before they put them out into the masses then. Yep these Beta test products get better all the time ! __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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26th February 2006, 10:55	#16 (permalink)
nigelh New member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 873	Re: Software Vision !!! Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh) Will dive on Saterday (only a Quarry scooter testing). Dive time now matched the Uwatec DT. Now to get it in the sea and compare the deco algorithm with the toys I'm used to. __________________ nigelh
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26th February 2006, 15:27	#17 (permalink)
Allan_o New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Copenhagen Denmark Posts: 81	Re: Software Vision !!! Thanx matt. That was my next gues. made a dive for a litlle over an hour without any problems with the new software. obs normal througout the dive. all alarms went off as programmed by Ap. the dive was at max 4meters in the local pool. it is very nice that the touch indicating pads are responding a lot better now.. Regards Allan
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27th February 2006, 08:54	#18 (permalink)
UKSteve Steve Collard Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Weymouth, UK Posts: 600	Re: Software Vision !!! Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) so just so every one know whats in it.... 5) The oxygen sensor voting system for the time being is the same as the original Inspiration – the PO2 is assumed to be the average of the closest two and the third is ignored. The cell validation system mentioned in the Vision manuals is deactivated for the time being. .... This was inthe middle of a lot of more mundane stuff in the list of changes to the Vision software but there has been little or no comment about it. Anyone know why this change has been made? The cell validation was a feature that appears to make a lot of sense and should help to identify current-limited cells, particularly if you are unlucky enough to experience two current limited cells sumultaneously. I wonder how long this is going to remain disabled? Steve
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27th February 2006, 09:34	#19 (permalink)
PeteS Consent Issued! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 539	Re: Software Vision !!! Quote: (Originally Posted by UKSteve) This was inthe middle of a lot of more mundane stuff in the list of changes to the Vision software but there has been little or no comment about it. Anyone know why this change has been made? The cell validation was a feature that appears to make a lot of sense and should help to identify current-limited cells, particularly if you are unlucky enough to experience two current limited cells sumultaneously. I wonder how long this is going to remain disabled? And why is it being disabled? __________________ Pete S. http://www.steggle.co.nz Every silver lining has a cloud
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27th February 2006, 19:44	#20 (permalink)
Dennis New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 17	Re: Software Vision !!! Quote: (Originally Posted by PeteS) And why is it being disabled? I picked up on this when I got the upgrade, and asked Nicky. She didn't know why, but has said she will speak to the software people and get back to me (Didn't say when though!). Dennis
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