Electronics on new Inspy

***schford*** · 6th April 2005, 15:15

Did they move the battery out of the breathing loop with the new design?

cheers

Stuart

***Beanie*** · 6th April 2005, 16:56

nope

they didn't

ROB DAVIE · 6th April 2005, 17:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Did they move the battery out of the breathing loop with the new design?

cheers

Stuart

Stuart,

Martin is just NOT going to do that. We could get into a REALLY extended discussion about test results, and the meaning of them based on various criteria, but the up-shot is that Martin believes that the "problem" is over-stated, and that the test results show that to be true. This is based on a recent study done for him by the same folks who did the CE work, and some testing by an independent lab.

"C'est la bloody guerre!" as you Brits are wont to say!!!

Rob

***schford*** · 6th April 2005, 17:32

I just wondered from a purely marketing point of view, seems a suprise they did not take the opportunity.

Stuart

ROB DAVIE · 6th April 2005, 18:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

I just wondered from a purely marketing point of view, seems a suprise they did not take the opportunity.

Stuart

Stuart,

The development and constuction process was too far down the line when the poo-poo hit the air re-circulation device recently. He would have IF the testing process had shown it to be a distinct problem, but it did not. Hasn't slowed the sales of the units, that anyone can tell. There are a LOT of Inspo's out there, and more arriving daily, as they say. "Film at eleven!"

Rob

**trob09** · 6th April 2005, 18:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

I just wondered from a purely marketing point of view, seems a suprise they did not take the opportunity.

Stuart

Marketing aside, wouldn't changes in the design of this nature require resubmission for CE approval?

T

***schford*** · 6th April 2005, 18:47

I figured that the Unit would have needed ot be re certed with the new Electronics and head anyways...

***caveseeker7*** · 6th April 2005, 20:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

I just wondered from a purely marketing point of view ...

It's got a pretty yellow cover, that's all they needed so far.

I'm pretty sure they needed to recertify because it's an all new head design with completely different electronics. They may have done it by certifying the Evo with it and (with most evertything being about the same, just smaller) allowed to add it to the Inspo.

If the NAVY's warning wasn't good enough the Cayman incident should have been.
It's not a new concept and it's not rocket science. "Too far down the line" neither excuses the stupidity of having it there in the first place, nor not changing it for the new head.

***Beanie*** · 6th April 2005, 20:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

If the NAVY's warning wasn't good enough the Cayman incident should have been.

what was the Cayman incident?

***caveseeker7*** · 6th April 2005, 21:30

Water leaking straight into the head through hose fitting. Battery accid made for a nasty caustic cocktail.
PM me your e-mail, the guy who reported it asked it not be published publicly.

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ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) Did they move the battery out of the breathing loop with the new design? cheers Stuart Stuart, Martin is just NOT going to do that. We could get into a REALLY extended discussion about test results, and the meaning of them based on various criteria, but the up-shot is that Martin believes that the "problem" is over-stated, and that the test results show that to be true. This is based on a recent study done for him by the same folks who did the CE work, and some testing by an independent lab. "C'est la bloody guerre!" as you Brits are wont to say!!! Rob __________________ "CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving WHEN PIGS FLY!!"--GI3
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ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) I just wondered from a purely marketing point of view, seems a suprise they did not take the opportunity. Stuart Stuart, The development and constuction process was too far down the line when the poo-poo hit the air re-circulation device recently. He would have IF the testing process had shown it to be a distinct problem, but it did not. Hasn't slowed the sales of the units, that anyone can tell. There are a LOT of Inspo's out there, and more arriving daily, as they say. "Film at eleven!" Rob __________________ "CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving WHEN PIGS FLY!!"--GI3
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*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,535	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) I just wondered from a purely marketing point of view ... It's got a pretty yellow cover, that's all they needed so far. I'm pretty sure they needed to recertify because it's an all new head design with completely different electronics. They may have done it by certifying the Evo with it and (with most evertything being about the same, just smaller) allowed to add it to the Inspo. If the NAVY's warning wasn't good enough the Cayman incident should have been. It's not a new concept and it's not rocket science. "Too far down the line" neither excuses the stupidity of having it there in the first place, nor not changing it for the new head. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,292	Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) If the NAVY's warning wasn't good enough the Cayman incident should have been. what was the Cayman incident? __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,535	Water leaking straight into the head through hose fitting. Battery accid made for a nasty caustic cocktail. PM me your e-mail, the guy who reported it asked it not be published publicly. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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