ADV Flow stop

Pierre Farrugia · 21st January 2006, 18:05

Hello all,

Today my buddy installed a flow stop and is working reverse order to mine! Can you please check on yours which way is open ?

***Louby Lou*** · 21st January 2006, 18:18

Hi Pierre

My flowstop works so when the slider is moved down it is turned off, to turn it on you push the slider up/ away from you. Beanie's works the same.

Beanie said that if it is the AP we think you can turn it round/ upside down and it will work still

We colour coded mine so when it was off the exposed bit was coloured red, and when on green, because I get easily confused

Hope that helps.

Lou
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Happy Belated Birthday

Depth-junkie · 21st January 2006, 18:39

Down off, Up on.

if its the AP one there will be 1 line on the bottom and 2 lines on the top of the black slider indicating off(1 line) and on(2 lines), not sure on the apexs one though.

ATB
Gareth

Pierre Farrugia · 21st January 2006, 18:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by Louby Lou)

Hi Pierre

Beanie said that if it is the AP we think you can turn it round/ upside down and it will work still

Lou thanks as usual,

I don't think you can turn it upside down, as it has a male and female ends and if you swap

we we prfer

. Will check mine now.

***Louby Lou*** · 21st January 2006, 18:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by Pierre Farrugia)

Lou thanks as usual,

I don't think you can turn it upside down, as it has a male and female ends and if you swap

we we prfer

. Will check mine now.

I think I misunderstood him on that one

He's just said now that you can turn the plastic slider round...

Now why he didn't fully explain to me earlier I don't know...

Pierre Farrugia · 21st January 2006, 19:58

Mine, to open you need to move it down, maybe this summer I installed it other way round after I had a leak!

***jradomski*** · 21st January 2006, 21:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Pierre Farrugia)

Hello all,

Today my buddy installed a flow stop and is working reverse order to mine! Can you please check on yours which way is open ?

Pierre,
There are two different designs out there..
Personally I prefer the ones that allow gas to pass when the valve is towards the device that needs gas, and away you stop the gas.. to me this is the logical way.. near=toghether=pass, away=break=stop..

This is the main reason I will not use an AP flow stop because in my mind the logic is backwards.. I can't see how away from the device means let the gas flow... Maybe its a British thing

Padowan · 21st January 2006, 22:10

If the flow stop is an AP one, then you can make it work the other way round by dismantling the unit and replacing the sliding collar the other way round. Due to the countours and o-rings inside the collar this seems to give the user the option to run it either way. Whether this is a design feature, or a serendipitious bonus I'm not sure.

For me, I pull the collar towards the ADV to shut it off, I prefer it this way, as the pull down is easier to do than the push back up. If I need to get to it quickly, then the pull down is faster for me.

***jradomski*** · 21st January 2006, 22:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by Padowan)

If the flow stop is an AP one, then you can make it work the other way round by dismantling the unit and replacing the sliding collar the other way round. Due to the countours and o-rings inside the collar this seems to give the user the option to run it either way. Whether this is a design feature, or a serendipitious bonus I'm not sure.

For me, I pull the collar towards the ADV to shut it off, I prefer it this way, as the pull down is easier to do than the push back up. If I need to get to it quickly, then the pull down is faster for me.

yes thats a plus, but you could also look at it this way as well, if you forgot to turn it on and neede gas quickly and for some reason your manual add was inaccessible, pulling down to turn it ON is easier..

For me the fast off thing isn't a plus.. I only use the ADV on desecnt (if I enable it at all - I usually only use it on high task load high current dives)then immediately shut it off for the rest of the dive..

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 23rd January 2006, 01:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Louby Lou)

We colour coded mine so when it was off the exposed bit was coloured red, and when on green, because I get easily confused

What a great idea. How did you color (American spelling

) it? Is the coloring staying there after a number of uses?

The Optima is down (moved in the direction of flow to the ADV) when on/open, and it is up when off/closed.

View Poll Results: Which way does your flow stop is open, air will pass?
Moved towards the ADV, ie down	16	36.36%
Moved away from ADV connection, ie up	28	63.64%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

21st January 2006, 18:05	#1 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	ADV Flow stop (AP) Hello all, Today my buddy installed a flow stop and is working reverse order to mine! Can you please check on yours which way is open ? __________________ Pierre Farrugia My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com Last edited by Pierre Farrugia : 21st January 2006 at 18:44.
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21st January 2006, 18:18	#2 (permalink)
*Louby Lou* XLVI WC! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Roman Corinium! Posts: 1,040	Re: ADV Flow stop Hi Pierre My flowstop works so when the slider is moved down it is turned off, to turn it on you push the slider up/ away from you. Beanie's works the same. Beanie said that if it is the AP we think you can turn it round/ upside down and it will work still We colour coded mine so when it was off the exposed bit was coloured red, and when on green, because I get easily confused Hope that helps. Lou x Happy Belated Birthday __________________ Miss Lou x Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreatherworld Terms and Conditions - Please read! Outlaw Divers - Sssh we're diving! You heff vays uff dealink vis zem, oh Miss RBW Admin! - Rob Davie Feb 06
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21st January 2006, 18:39	#3 (permalink)
Depth-junkie 10/52 Psycho Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wrexham Posts: 298	Re: ADV Flow stop Down off, Up on. if its the AP one there will be 1 line on the bottom and 2 lines on the top of the black slider indicating off(1 line) and on(2 lines), not sure on the apexs one though. ATB Gareth
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21st January 2006, 18:48	#4 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by Louby Lou) Hi Pierre Beanie said that if it is the AP we think you can turn it round/ upside down and it will work still Lou thanks as usual, I don't think you can turn it upside down, as it has a male and female ends and if you swap we we prfer . Will check mine now. __________________ Pierre Farrugia My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com
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21st January 2006, 18:55	#5 (permalink)
*Louby Lou* XLVI WC! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Roman Corinium! Posts: 1,040	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by Pierre Farrugia) Lou thanks as usual, I don't think you can turn it upside down, as it has a male and female ends and if you swap we we prfer . Will check mine now. I think I misunderstood him on that one He's just said now that you can turn the plastic slider round... Now why he didn't fully explain to me earlier I don't know... __________________ Miss Lou x Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreatherworld Terms and Conditions - Please read! Outlaw Divers - Sssh we're diving! You heff vays uff dealink vis zem, oh Miss RBW Admin! - Rob Davie Feb 06
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21st January 2006, 19:58	#6 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	Re: ADV Flow stop Mine, to open you need to move it down, maybe this summer I installed it other way round after I had a leak! __________________ Pierre Farrugia My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com
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21st January 2006, 21:38	#7 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,095	Re: ADV Flow stop (AP) Quote: (Originally Posted by Pierre Farrugia) Hello all, Today my buddy installed a flow stop and is working reverse order to mine! Can you please check on yours which way is open ? Pierre, There are two different designs out there.. Personally I prefer the ones that allow gas to pass when the valve is towards the device that needs gas, and away you stop the gas.. to me this is the logical way.. near=toghether=pass, away=break=stop.. This is the main reason I will not use an AP flow stop because in my mind the logic is backwards.. I can't see how away from the device means let the gas flow... Maybe its a British thing __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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21st January 2006, 22:10	#8 (permalink)
Padowan RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Exeter, UK. Posts: 524	Re: ADV Flow stop If the flow stop is an AP one, then you can make it work the other way round by dismantling the unit and replacing the sliding collar the other way round. Due to the countours and o-rings inside the collar this seems to give the user the option to run it either way. Whether this is a design feature, or a serendipitious bonus I'm not sure. For me, I pull the collar towards the ADV to shut it off, I prefer it this way, as the pull down is easier to do than the push back up. If I need to get to it quickly, then the pull down is faster for me. __________________ Padowan The future's bright, the future's Yellow .....for now padowan.net - Latest Video: Scapa Flow Rebreather Diving
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21st January 2006, 22:27	#9 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,095	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by Padowan) If the flow stop is an AP one, then you can make it work the other way round by dismantling the unit and replacing the sliding collar the other way round. Due to the countours and o-rings inside the collar this seems to give the user the option to run it either way. Whether this is a design feature, or a serendipitious bonus I'm not sure. For me, I pull the collar towards the ADV to shut it off, I prefer it this way, as the pull down is easier to do than the push back up. If I need to get to it quickly, then the pull down is faster for me. yes thats a plus, but you could also look at it this way as well, if you forgot to turn it on and neede gas quickly and for some reason your manual add was inaccessible, pulling down to turn it ON is easier.. For me the fast off thing isn't a plus.. I only use the ADV on desecnt (if I enable it at all - I usually only use it on high task load high current dives)then immediately shut it off for the rest of the dive.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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23rd January 2006, 01:56	#10 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,213	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by Louby Lou) We colour coded mine so when it was off the exposed bit was coloured red, and when on green, because I get easily confused What a great idea. How did you color (American spelling ) it? Is the coloring staying there after a number of uses? The Optima is down (moved in the direction of flow to the ADV) when on/open, and it is up when off/closed. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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