ADV Flow stop

***Beanie*** · 23rd January 2006, 07:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami)

What a great idea. How did you color (American spelling

) it? Is the coloring staying there after a number of uses?

Simple:
Took the plastic ring off coloured the bit of the metal that show when its open green and the bit the shows when its closed red.

If you want I'll take a couple of pictures tonight

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 23rd January 2006, 14:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Simple:
Took the plastic ring off coloured the bit of the metal that show when its open green and the bit the shows when its closed red.

If you want I'll take a couple of pictures tonight

I am curious as to what you used to color the metal. I would think that opening and closing it a few times would remove all of the coloring, or that the water exposure would do this.

The only thing that comes to mind would be a permanent marker such as a "Sharpie" (a brand that I often see advertised). What did you use?

***Beanie*** · 23rd January 2006, 15:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami)

I am curious as to what you used to color the metal. I would think that opening and closing it a few times would remove all of the coloring, or that the water exposure would do this.

The only thing that comes to mind would be a permanent marker such as a "Sharpie" (a brand that I often see advertised). What did you use?

yeah I used permanent pens the ones I used are for Overhead projectors (Clear acetate for presentations) or CD marker pens should do.

They do come off abit over time but last at least a year or so and its simple to re colour anyway

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 23rd January 2006, 15:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

yeah I used permanent pens the ones I used are for Overhead projectors (Clear acetate for presentations) or CD marker pens should do.

They do come off abit over time but last at least a year or so and its simple to re colour anyway

Thank you.

Nick uk. · 23rd January 2006, 23:48

It doesn't RREAARLLLYY matter anyway does it, just so long as you know which way round it is, and if you can't remember, well, descend 2-3 ATA and breath in, and you'll soon find out!

bubblefree · 24th January 2006, 00:37

Can't remember without looking but it is the one from SDS in the US, right now I am experimenting with leaving the ADV on for varying lengths of the dive to see what is best.

I used an AP one when doing the training but I found it to be too unreliable. It caused a minor leak in the loop which caused the negative check to fail. Apparently this had happened before and was a known problem (maybe just with this one unit). The one from SDS seems to be very reliable.

***jradomski*** · 24th January 2006, 01:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by bubblefree)

Can't remember without looking but it is the one from SDS in the US, right now I am experimenting with leaving the ADV on for varying lengths of the dive to see what is best.

I used an AP one when doing the training but I found it to be too unreliable. It caused a minor leak in the loop which caused the negative check to fail. Apparently this had happened before and was a known problem (maybe just with this one unit). The one from SDS seems to be very reliable.

Unless they started selling someon else's product they were selling the APD one.. The most reliable one in my oprinion is from m&j engineering.. Oxycheq used to be the main source but now there are a few people who sell them..

Does it Open towards or away from the adv??

ROB DAVIE · 24th January 2006, 03:20

I like Joe's logic pattern there.

near=together=pass
away=break=stop

It fits with the idea of pulling the connections apart (away) to disconnect it (stop).

Nice one, Joe!

01RMB · 24th January 2006, 05:00

The M&J valves work the same as the APD ones (off towards the ADV) but you can rotate the slide to get it to work the other way around.

I had the APD valve on mine but swapped it with the M&J one because it was a lot more definitive in the on/off slide action.

I found the APD valve could be easily shut off with a slight bump of the slide valve meaning that you were sucking air like golf balls through a hose to get a breath until you hit the manual add.

I like it off towards the ADV because I can easily reach back and pull it down to shut it off. I generally close mine on deco and then flush with O2.

***jradomski*** · 24th January 2006, 05:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by 01RMB)

The M&J valves work the same as the APD ones (off towards the ADV) but you can rotate the slide to get it to work the other way around.

I had the APD valve on mine but swapped it with the M&J one because it was a lot more definitive in the on/off slide action.

I found the APD valve could be easily shut off with a slight bump of the slide valve meaning that you were sucking air like golf balls through a hose to get a breath until you hit the manual add.

I like it off towards the ADV because I can easily reach back and pull it down to shut it off. I generally close mine on deco and then flush with O2.

I have been selling the M&j stuff since day one (for the wide cutooff) and everyone I got shutts off away from the adv.. I havent tried the narrow one..

View Poll Results: Which way does your flow stop is open, air will pass?
Moved towards the ADV, ie down	16	36.36%
Moved away from ADV connection, ie up	28	63.64%
Voters: 44. You may not vote on this poll

23rd January 2006, 07:03	#11 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,292	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami) What a great idea. How did you color (American spelling ) it? Is the coloring staying there after a number of uses? Simple: Took the plastic ring off coloured the bit of the metal that show when its open green and the bit the shows when its closed red. If you want I'll take a couple of pictures tonight __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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23rd January 2006, 14:59	#12 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,213	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Simple: Took the plastic ring off coloured the bit of the metal that show when its open green and the bit the shows when its closed red. If you want I'll take a couple of pictures tonight I am curious as to what you used to color the metal. I would think that opening and closing it a few times would remove all of the coloring, or that the water exposure would do this. The only thing that comes to mind would be a permanent marker such as a "Sharpie" (a brand that I often see advertised). What did you use? __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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23rd January 2006, 15:04	#13 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,292	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami) I am curious as to what you used to color the metal. I would think that opening and closing it a few times would remove all of the coloring, or that the water exposure would do this. The only thing that comes to mind would be a permanent marker such as a "Sharpie" (a brand that I often see advertised). What did you use? yeah I used permanent pens the ones I used are for Overhead projectors (Clear acetate for presentations) or CD marker pens should do. They do come off abit over time but last at least a year or so and its simple to re colour anyway __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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23rd January 2006, 15:06	#14 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,213	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) yeah I used permanent pens the ones I used are for Overhead projectors (Clear acetate for presentations) or CD marker pens should do. They do come off abit over time but last at least a year or so and its simple to re colour anyway Thank you. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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23rd January 2006, 23:48	#15 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: ADV Flow stop It doesn't RREAARLLLYY matter anyway does it, just so long as you know which way round it is, and if you can't remember, well, descend 2-3 ATA and breath in, and you'll soon find out! __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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24th January 2006, 00:37	#16 (permalink)
bubblefree New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grand Cayman Posts: 40	Re: ADV Flow stop Can't remember without looking but it is the one from SDS in the US, right now I am experimenting with leaving the ADV on for varying lengths of the dive to see what is best. I used an AP one when doing the training but I found it to be too unreliable. It caused a minor leak in the loop which caused the negative check to fail. Apparently this had happened before and was a known problem (maybe just with this one unit). The one from SDS seems to be very reliable.
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24th January 2006, 01:34	#17 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,095	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by bubblefree) Can't remember without looking but it is the one from SDS in the US, right now I am experimenting with leaving the ADV on for varying lengths of the dive to see what is best. I used an AP one when doing the training but I found it to be too unreliable. It caused a minor leak in the loop which caused the negative check to fail. Apparently this had happened before and was a known problem (maybe just with this one unit). The one from SDS seems to be very reliable. Unless they started selling someon else's product they were selling the APD one.. The most reliable one in my oprinion is from m&j engineering.. Oxycheq used to be the main source but now there are a few people who sell them.. Does it Open towards or away from the adv?? __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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24th January 2006, 03:20	#18 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Re: ADV Flow stop I like Joe's logic pattern there. near=together=pass away=break=stop It fits with the idea of pulling the connections apart (away) to disconnect it (stop). Nice one, Joe! __________________ "CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving WHEN PIGS FLY!!"--GI3
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24th January 2006, 05:00	#19 (permalink)
01RMB Evolving Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 193	Re: ADV Flow stop The M&J valves work the same as the APD ones (off towards the ADV) but you can rotate the slide to get it to work the other way around. I had the APD valve on mine but swapped it with the M&J one because it was a lot more definitive in the on/off slide action. I found the APD valve could be easily shut off with a slight bump of the slide valve meaning that you were sucking air like golf balls through a hose to get a breath until you hit the manual add. I like it off towards the ADV because I can easily reach back and pull it down to shut it off. I generally close mine on deco and then flush with O2. __________________ Cheers Rod
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24th January 2006, 05:04	#20 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,095	Re: ADV Flow stop Quote: (Originally Posted by 01RMB) The M&J valves work the same as the APD ones (off towards the ADV) but you can rotate the slide to get it to work the other way around. I had the APD valve on mine but swapped it with the M&J one because it was a lot more definitive in the on/off slide action. I found the APD valve could be easily shut off with a slight bump of the slide valve meaning that you were sucking air like golf balls through a hose to get a breath until you hit the manual add. I like it off towards the ADV because I can easily reach back and pull it down to shut it off. I generally close mine on deco and then flush with O2. I have been selling the M&j stuff since day one (for the wide cutooff) and everyone I got shutts off away from the adv.. I havent tried the narrow one.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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