Scrubber and trim

***Beanie*** · 5th January 2006, 19:16

I dive with my scrubber (classic) with the bolt as close to the manifold as possible.

I was wondering if I moved it down would it alter my trim ie move my head down? due to the change in bouyancy distribution?

The other thing is would it affect WOB at all?

Ken · 5th January 2006, 19:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

I dive with my scrubber (classic) with the bolt as close to the manifold as possible.

I was wondering if I moved it down would it alter my trim ie move my head down? due to the change in bouyancy distribution?

The other thing is would it affect WOB at all?

I don't see why it would affect your WOB. You're just moving the can down a tad. No real change in hose length. Personally, I liked the bolts up high to offset the heads-up buoyancy of the YBOD. Also I stuck a 1.5 lb ankle weight in between the can and manifold- under the cover. That way I only had to use 4 lbs in the weight pocket.

Nick uk. · 5th January 2006, 19:43

I don't like the weight pocket at all on the YBOD, looks far too easy to lossen, open and loose weight.

This ever happened to anybody?

Ken · 5th January 2006, 20:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.)

I don't like the weight pocket at all on the YBOD, looks far too easy to lossen, open and loose weight.

This ever happened to anybody?

This happens when people start stuffing a whole lot of weight in there and the velcro gives way. Some folks have attached permanent weight there. Again, my preference is to stuff a few ankle weights (if necessary) on top of the canister, under the manifold. For me, that was often too much with the 4lbs (2 kilo) inside the weight pocket.

***Beanie*** · 5th January 2006, 20:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ken)

This happens when people start stuffing a whole lot of weight in there and the velcro gives way. Some folks have attached permanent weight there. Again, my preference is to stuff a few ankle weights (if necessary) on top of the canister, under the manifold. For me, that was often too much with the 4lbs (2 kilo) inside the weight pocket.

I don't dive with any weight in mine, I only have 3kg of weight in salt water anyway and none in fresh.

Ken · 5th January 2006, 21:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

I don't dive with any weight in mine, I only have 3kg of weight in salt water anyway and none in fresh.

That's awesome! A lot of the guys we trained needed quite a bit of weight up near the top of the lid + sometimes even two to three ankle weights stuffed in there. Tell us how your experiment moving the can works.

diverklondike · 6th January 2006, 01:31

By mounting a 13cf bottle on the top of my YBOD I do not have a weight pocket issue and the confort of extra bail out...

Ken · 6th January 2006, 01:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike)

By mounting a 13cf bottle on the top of my YBOD I do not have a weight pocket issue and the confort of extra bail out...

Hey Mark...you do have a super cool set-up. What I want is the wall poster showing you with your kit!

Ken

http://www.electricfilm.com/hammerhead.html

5th January 2006, 19:16	#1 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,292	Scrubber and trim I dive with my scrubber (classic) with the bolt as close to the manifold as possible. I was wondering if I moved it down would it alter my trim ie move my head down? due to the change in bouyancy distribution? The other thing is would it affect WOB at all? __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk Last edited by Beanie : 5th January 2006 at 19:23.
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5th January 2006, 19:37	#2 (permalink)
Ken Team Torrent Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 331	Re: Scrubber and trim Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) I dive with my scrubber (classic) with the bolt as close to the manifold as possible. I was wondering if I moved it down would it alter my trim ie move my head down? due to the change in bouyancy distribution? The other thing is would it affect WOB at all? I don't see why it would affect your WOB. You're just moving the can down a tad. No real change in hose length. Personally, I liked the bolts up high to offset the heads-up buoyancy of the YBOD. Also I stuck a 1.5 lb ankle weight in between the can and manifold- under the cover. That way I only had to use 4 lbs in the weight pocket.
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5th January 2006, 19:43	#3 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: Scrubber and trim I don't like the weight pocket at all on the YBOD, looks far too easy to lossen, open and loose weight. This ever happened to anybody? __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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5th January 2006, 20:00	#4 (permalink)
Ken Team Torrent Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 331	Re: Scrubber and trim Quote: (Originally Posted by Nick uk.) I don't like the weight pocket at all on the YBOD, looks far too easy to lossen, open and loose weight. This ever happened to anybody? This happens when people start stuffing a whole lot of weight in there and the velcro gives way. Some folks have attached permanent weight there. Again, my preference is to stuff a few ankle weights (if necessary) on top of the canister, under the manifold. For me, that was often too much with the 4lbs (2 kilo) inside the weight pocket.
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5th January 2006, 20:32	#5 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,292	Re: Scrubber and trim Quote: (Originally Posted by Ken) This happens when people start stuffing a whole lot of weight in there and the velcro gives way. Some folks have attached permanent weight there. Again, my preference is to stuff a few ankle weights (if necessary) on top of the canister, under the manifold. For me, that was often too much with the 4lbs (2 kilo) inside the weight pocket. I don't dive with any weight in mine, I only have 3kg of weight in salt water anyway and none in fresh. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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5th January 2006, 21:26	#6 (permalink)
Ken Team Torrent Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 331	Re: Scrubber and trim Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) I don't dive with any weight in mine, I only have 3kg of weight in salt water anyway and none in fresh. That's awesome! A lot of the guys we trained needed quite a bit of weight up near the top of the lid + sometimes even two to three ankle weights stuffed in there. Tell us how your experiment moving the can works.
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6th January 2006, 01:31	#7 (permalink)
diverklondike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,699	Re: Scrubber and trim By mounting a 13cf bottle on the top of my YBOD I do not have a weight pocket issue and the confort of extra bail out...
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6th January 2006, 01:55	#8 (permalink)
Ken Team Torrent Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York City Posts: 331	Re: Scrubber and trim Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike) By mounting a 13cf bottle on the top of my YBOD I do not have a weight pocket issue and the confort of extra bail out... Hey Mark...you do have a super cool set-up. What I want is the wall poster showing you with your kit! Ken http://www.electricfilm.com/hammerhead.html
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