Vision - It Just Gets Better!

Nick uk. · 28th December 2005, 16:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Lou, the amount of people that have had to cancel dives due to poorly manufactured equipment is beyond belief.

I have had to cancel and reshedule 3 Mod 1 courses due to damaged units that were delivered.

Did I ever get any compensation? Did I hell as like.

Clearly, they just do not give a toss.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

This is all a bit dissheatening.

It took me ages to become comfortable with my choice of the YBOD.

Allso here in Italy there aren't many allternatives!!

***Louby Lou*** · 28th December 2005, 17:05

Dave, this is what I am worried about - 4 months almost and nothing from them, not even a sorry - I went with AP as I had heard about their high standard of customer service!! (What a joke!)

I get more and more disheartened with my unit everytime I look at it... £5500+ worth of kit sitting there; not because I can't dive it because of me... no I can't dive it because the manufacturer will not tell me whether it is safe to dive or not and that the d**m thing won't go together! If I dive it and things went tits up; it would be me that was liable not AP because they will not/ refuse to comment! Today is a sad sad day I am seriously considering getting rid of the unit and going for something else! I personally will not be recommending this setup to anyone else at the moment

Thanks Mark for the dimensions; we are just getting the ones here together... borrowing a set of digital calipers to get the most accurate measurements we can

Oh btw image below shows the 10mm distance between the canister and the head; where the 2 will not fit together

EDIT... and believe it or not, it actually will hold a positive pressure check like this and will not budge

***Decodiver*** · 28th December 2005, 17:08

Lou,

Buy a Meg.

Cheers,

Dave.

***Louby Lou*** · 28th December 2005, 17:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Lou,

Buy a Meg.

Cheers,

Dave.

Dave, how quickly could I get one and how soon could you do my course

Joking aside if things are not resolved soon... then that is the route I plan to go down

Cheers

Lou

decoweenie · 28th December 2005, 17:13

Have you tried to put the lid on without the sorb container and spacer ring ?

Sorry, I am just trying to understand where the problem lays.

Is it between the lid and scrubber base ? Or because of a stacking problem with the spacer and sorb container ?

MAD · 28th December 2005, 17:19

Lou,

Does it fit in without the O ring in place? The one around the head itself?

Just wondering if it's something to do with the O-ring rather than the head...

Trying it would help give a better idea anyway...

***Louby Lou*** · 28th December 2005, 17:19

Hi Phi

Yes, we've tried just about every which way possible to do this and it still doesn't fit; tried it with and without the sorb, spacer ring and o-ring in every different setup imaginable. Have doubled checked and checked again and still nothing.

Beanie is doing his photography bit and is reeling off images of everything so we can show all the different ways we have tried. Bar taking the o-ring out the head to see if it fits this way, we have done everything else we can think of. EDIT just seen Mark's post, and about to try this way...

Cheers

Lou

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Have you tried to put the lid on without the sorb container and spacer ring ?

Sorry, I am just trying to understand where the problem lays.

Is it between the lid and scrubber base ? Or because of a stacking problem with the spacer and sorb container ?

Nick uk. · 28th December 2005, 17:31

I think i would have allready been down to Cornwall by now with the unit in my boot.

Actually i know i would, even if i was leaving from here in Italy, but shees your only in coventry! Make the trip, and get it sorted, before you blow your top!

***Louby Lou*** · 28th December 2005, 17:31

Ok then guys...

Have tried without o-ring on the head and it fits..... just, with a bit of persuasion... enough so it passes a canister check... but is fairly tight to get it off again

Putting the o-ring back on to the head... and making sure it is properly seated etc we go back to square 1 and it does not fit... so I think the problem has been routed to the o-ring on the head... next thing is to figure out if it is the head or the canister with the problem

Nick... I would be but they are all closed up till next Tuesday...

Nick uk. · 28th December 2005, 17:34

Have you got a spare o ring. the one you have may be off a 'fly-mo' or something.

Try switching it out.

28th December 2005, 16:59	#11 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: Vision - It Just Gets Better! Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Lou, the amount of people that have had to cancel dives due to poorly manufactured equipment is beyond belief. I have had to cancel and reshedule 3 Mod 1 courses due to damaged units that were delivered. Did I ever get any compensation? Did I hell as like. Clearly, they just do not give a toss. Cheers, Dave Cooper. This is all a bit dissheatening. It took me ages to become comfortable with my choice of the YBOD. Allso here in Italy there aren't many allternatives!! __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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28th December 2005, 17:05	#12 (permalink)
*Louby Lou* XLVI WC! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Roman Corinium! Posts: 1,040	Re: Vision - It Just Gets Better! Dave, this is what I am worried about - 4 months almost and nothing from them, not even a sorry - I went with AP as I had heard about their high standard of customer service!! (What a joke!) I get more and more disheartened with my unit everytime I look at it... £5500+ worth of kit sitting there; not because I can't dive it because of me... no I can't dive it because the manufacturer will not tell me whether it is safe to dive or not and that the dm thing won't go together! If I dive it and things went tits up; it would be me that was liable not AP because they will not/ refuse to comment! Today is a sad sad day I am seriously considering getting rid of the unit and going for something else! I personally will not be recommending this setup to anyone else at the moment Thanks Mark for the dimensions; we are just getting the ones here together... borrowing a set of digital calipers to get the most accurate measurements we can Oh btw image below shows the 10mm distance between the canister and the head; where the 2 will not fit together EDIT... and believe it or not, it actually will hold a positive pressure check like this and will not budge __________________ Miss Lou x Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreatherworld Terms and Conditions - Please read! Outlaw Divers** - Sssh we're diving! You heff vays uff dealink vis zem, oh Miss RBW Admin! - Rob Davie Feb 06 Last edited by Louby Lou : 28th December 2005 at 17:11.
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28th December 2005, 17:08	#13 (permalink)
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28th December 2005, 17:10	#14 (permalink)
*Louby Lou* XLVI WC! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Roman Corinium! Posts: 1,040	Re: Vision - It Just Gets Better! Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Lou, Buy a Meg. Cheers, Dave. Dave, how quickly could I get one and how soon could you do my course Joking aside if things are not resolved soon... then that is the route I plan to go down Cheers Lou __________________ Miss Lou x Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreatherworld Terms and Conditions - Please read! Outlaw Divers - Sssh we're diving! You heff vays uff dealink vis zem, oh Miss RBW Admin! - Rob Davie Feb 06
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28th December 2005, 17:13	#15 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Vision - It Just Gets Better! Have you tried to put the lid on without the sorb container and spacer ring ? Sorry, I am just trying to understand where the problem lays. Is it between the lid and scrubber base ? Or because of a stacking problem with the spacer and sorb container ? __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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28th December 2005, 17:19	#16 (permalink)
MAD RBW Writer Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northampton Posts: 71	Re: Vision - It Just Gets Better! Lou, Does it fit in without the O ring in place? The one around the head itself? Just wondering if it's something to do with the O-ring rather than the head... Trying it would help give a better idea anyway...
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28th December 2005, 17:19	#17 (permalink)
*Louby Lou* XLVI WC! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Roman Corinium! Posts: 1,040	Re: Vision - It Just Gets Better! Hi Phi Yes, we've tried just about every which way possible to do this and it still doesn't fit; tried it with and without the sorb, spacer ring and o-ring in every different setup imaginable. Have doubled checked and checked again and still nothing. Beanie is doing his photography bit and is reeling off images of everything so we can show all the different ways we have tried. Bar taking the o-ring out the head to see if it fits this way, we have done everything else we can think of. EDIT just seen Mark's post, and about to try this way... Cheers Lou Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Have you tried to put the lid on without the sorb container and spacer ring ? Sorry, I am just trying to understand where the problem lays. Is it between the lid and scrubber base ? Or because of a stacking problem with the spacer and sorb container ? __________________ Miss Lou x Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreatherworld Terms and Conditions - Please read! Outlaw Divers - Sssh we're diving! You heff vays uff dealink vis zem, oh Miss RBW Admin! - Rob Davie Feb 06
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28th December 2005, 17:31	#18 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: Vision - It Just Gets Better! I think i would have allready been down to Cornwall by now with the unit in my boot. Actually i know i would, even if i was leaving from here in Italy, but shees your only in coventry! Make the trip, and get it sorted, before you blow your top! __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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28th December 2005, 17:31	#19 (permalink)
*Louby Lou* XLVI WC! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Roman Corinium! Posts: 1,040	Re: Vision - It Just Gets Better! Ok then guys... Have tried without o-ring on the head and it fits..... just, with a bit of persuasion... enough so it passes a canister check... but is fairly tight to get it off again Putting the o-ring back on to the head... and making sure it is properly seated etc we go back to square 1 and it does not fit... so I think the problem has been routed to the o-ring on the head... next thing is to figure out if it is the head or the canister with the problem Nick... I would be but they are all closed up till next Tuesday... __________________ Miss Lou x Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreatherworld Terms and Conditions - Please read! Outlaw Divers - Sssh we're diving! You heff vays uff dealink vis zem, oh Miss RBW Admin! - Rob Davie Feb 06
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28th December 2005, 17:34	#20 (permalink)
Nick uk. Made in England. Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Viale C.Colombo 75 Marina di Carrara. MS 54036 Italy Posts: 575	Re: Vision - It Just Gets Better! Have you got a spare o ring. the one you have may be off a 'fly-mo' or something. Try switching it out. __________________ If it aint broke....don't fix it, and if it is.............well......get another one! divechief2000@hotmail.com
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