feedback on Decoweenie travelframe

robprice · 31st March 2006, 15:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by Kreiseltaucher)

Hello Rob,

i read your buildup article and there you mentioned that you did not use any backplate. How you fixed the AP Wing/harness on the frame without a plate

Is there a way to go without on the travelframe??

Cheers
Toni
.. still living double-lefthanded-rebreatherdiver

All I did was use the old harness complete and the same bolts.
I found that the back of the harness was stiff enough and also the travel frame helped to secure and support the harness.
Hope this explains it, it does work well.

Rob

Kreiseltaucher · 31st March 2006, 21:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by robprice)

All I did was use the old harness complete and the same bolts.
I found that the back of the harness was stiff enough and also the travel frame helped to secure and support the harness.
Hope this explains it, it does work well.

Rob

Sounds good. since a view days i got the frame, but no time to take a closer look for fixing the harness. all i know is, i want to make the Rebreather as lightweight as possible for travelling. No backplate..so your info comes the right time. Thanks Rob!

regardes,
Toni

Jason Blackwell · 1st April 2006, 06:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by VTR)

The original Inspo yellow & black shell (the ABS version) weighs 7lb 14oz (about 3.5kg). Ok, these measurements were taken using a set of kitchen scales so may not be accurate to the nearest ounce (gram), but it's a figure you can work with for your calculations.

Cheers

Giles.

Mine weighs in at 3.596kg on my set of scales. (the scales have not been calibrated this year), but I have seen one nearer 3.5kg too.

decoweenie · 8th April 2006, 04:19

Shop is closed until Easter Monday.

Gone skiing.

devo · 13th April 2006, 16:06

Just dove for 12 days on the Travel Frame in Malpelo and Cocos Island. No problems and the frame took a beating against a lot of volcanic rock. I used the boat's 13cf cylinders with my Buddy valves and it all worked great.

Mark Chase · 13th April 2006, 20:19

I managed to break my one

The botom bar fell off on the lid. The spot welds hadent worked properly but its still useable.

ATB

Mark Chase

decoweenie · 15th April 2006, 07:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

I managed to break my one

The botom bar fell off on the lid. The spot welds hadent worked properly but its still useable.

Mark,

Steven is on his ski vacation at the moment, but will be back on Monday. I will make sure he contact you and fix the issue ASAP.

In the meantime, could you snap a couple of pics and email them to me off-list (decoweenie@yahoo.com) so we understand the problem ? Thanks...

steevke · 17th April 2006, 13:46

Mark,

we added the reinforcing bar at the last moment when we felt that the lid was 'flimsy' without. In the beginning we spotwelded them on, later we TIG welded them for extra solidity.

You don't really need the bar but the lid is much stronger with the bar.

If you wish, I can send you either a new folded bar (if you lost yours), you could then either:
- find a welder that could weld the reinforcement bar back on (easy, 3 tacks should do it);
- drill 2 / 3 holes and fasten the bar with stainless steel rivets or small M4 bolts and nuts.

Alternatively, ship me the lid back and I'll fix it for you if you have trouble finding a local welder.

Sorry for your problem, but at least the frame is still useable!

Steven

Mark Chase · 22nd April 2006, 22:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke)

Mark,

we added the reinforcing bar at the last moment when we felt that the lid was 'flimsy' without. In the beginning we spotwelded them on, later we TIG welded them for extra solidity.

You don't really need the bar but the lid is much stronger with the bar.

If you wish, I can send you either a new folded bar (if you lost yours), you could then either:
- find a welder that could weld the reinforcement bar back on (easy, 3 tacks should do it);
- drill 2 / 3 holes and fasten the bar with stainless steel rivets or small M4 bolts and nuts.

Alternatively, ship me the lid back and I'll fix it for you if you have trouble finding a local welder.

Sorry for your problem, but at least the frame is still usable!

Steven

Hi Steven

I still have the bar, I used the frame without it and it came unclipped at the top during the dive. The base plate is quite flimsy so it allows the frame to move up wards and unclip. I was going to try areldite but perhaps Ill look into getting it welded first.

ATB

Mark Chase

C

***jradomski*** · 23rd April 2006, 05:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke)

Mark,

we added the reinforcing bar at the last moment when we felt that the lid was 'flimsy' without. In the beginning we spotwelded them on, later we TIG welded them for extra solidity.

You don't really need the bar but the lid is much stronger with the bar.

If you wish, I can send you either a new folded bar (if you lost yours), you could then either:
- find a welder that could weld the reinforcement bar back on (easy, 3 tacks should do it);
- drill 2 / 3 holes and fasten the bar with stainless steel rivets or small M4 bolts and nuts.

Alternatively, ship me the lid back and I'll fix it for you if you have trouble finding a local welder.

Sorry for your problem, but at least the frame is still useable!

Steven

Sojudging by Mark's ccount.. Is this why my lid poped off several times ( 1s batch)..

I finally got around to strainghtening (well mostly) all the bends and I think a few "reinforcement" bars are necessary.. 1 across the bottom square, and two more to vertically to connect the bottom square to where the BP bar on the middle square ends and in front to bottom of middle square..

I am toying with the idea of cuttong off the bottom "square" and making anothet square section for it, so that this lower section can be revoved for transport, and connect at destination by simply using 4 screws..

31st March 2006, 15:01	#141 (permalink)
robprice Bob.P Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 44	Re: feedback on Decoweenie travelframe Quote: (Originally Posted by Kreiseltaucher) Hello Rob, i read your buildup article and there you mentioned that you did not use any backplate. How you fixed the AP Wing/harness on the frame without a plate Is there a way to go without on the travelframe?? Cheers Toni .. still living double-lefthanded-rebreatherdiver All I did was use the old harness complete and the same bolts. I found that the back of the harness was stiff enough and also the travel frame helped to secure and support the harness. Hope this explains it, it does work well. Rob
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31st March 2006, 21:38	#142 (permalink)
Kreiseltaucher New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Stuttgart, Germany Posts: 9	Re: feedback on Decoweenie travelframe Quote: (Originally Posted by robprice) All I did was use the old harness complete and the same bolts. I found that the back of the harness was stiff enough and also the travel frame helped to secure and support the harness. Hope this explains it, it does work well. Rob Sounds good. since a view days i got the frame, but no time to take a closer look for fixing the harness. all i know is, i want to make the Rebreather as lightweight as possible for travelling. No backplate..so your info comes the right time. Thanks Rob! regardes, Toni
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1st April 2006, 06:49	#143 (permalink)
Jason Blackwell Bloody Rebreathers! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima Dolphin Ray Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland, AUSTRALIA Posts: 364	Re: Decision time ! but question first Quote: (Originally Posted by VTR) The original Inspo yellow & black shell (the ABS version) weighs 7lb 14oz (about 3.5kg). Ok, these measurements were taken using a set of kitchen scales so may not be accurate to the nearest ounce (gram), but it's a figure you can work with for your calculations. Cheers Giles. Mine weighs in at 3.596kg on my set of scales. (the scales have not been calibrated this year), but I have seen one nearer 3.5kg too. __________________ Jason Blackwell TDI Instructor Trainer #1358 Optima...Inspiration/Evolution...KISS...and what is next??? www.divedivedive.com.au OZTeK '09 March 2009 Sydney, Australia www.diveoztek.com.au
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8th April 2006, 04:19	#144 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: feedback on Decoweenie travelframe Shop is closed until Easter Monday. Gone skiing.
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13th April 2006, 16:06	#145 (permalink)
devo New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 53	Re: feedback on Decoweenie travelframe Just dove for 12 days on the Travel Frame in Malpelo and Cocos Island. No problems and the frame took a beating against a lot of volcanic rock. I used the boat's 13cf cylinders with my Buddy valves and it all worked great.
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13th April 2006, 20:19	#146 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,868	Re: feedback on Decoweenie travelframe I managed to break my one The botom bar fell off on the lid. The spot welds hadent worked properly but its still useable. ATB Mark Chase __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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15th April 2006, 07:00	#147 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: feedback on Decoweenie travelframe Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) I managed to break my one The botom bar fell off on the lid. The spot welds hadent worked properly but its still useable. Mark, Steven is on his ski vacation at the moment, but will be back on Monday. I will make sure he contact you and fix the issue ASAP. In the meantime, could you snap a couple of pics and email them to me off-list (decoweenie@yahoo.com) so we understand the problem ? Thanks...
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17th April 2006, 13:46	#148 (permalink)
steevke Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 317	Re: feedback on Decoweenie travelframe Mark, we added the reinforcing bar at the last moment when we felt that the lid was 'flimsy' without. In the beginning we spotwelded them on, later we TIG welded them for extra solidity. You don't really need the bar but the lid is much stronger with the bar. If you wish, I can send you either a new folded bar (if you lost yours), you could then either: - find a welder that could weld the reinforcement bar back on (easy, 3 tacks should do it); - drill 2 / 3 holes and fasten the bar with stainless steel rivets or small M4 bolts and nuts. Alternatively, ship me the lid back and I'll fix it for you if you have trouble finding a local welder. Sorry for your problem, but at least the frame is still useable! Steven
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22nd April 2006, 22:37	#149 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,868	Re: feedback on Decoweenie travelframe Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke) Mark, we added the reinforcing bar at the last moment when we felt that the lid was 'flimsy' without. In the beginning we spotwelded them on, later we TIG welded them for extra solidity. You don't really need the bar but the lid is much stronger with the bar. If you wish, I can send you either a new folded bar (if you lost yours), you could then either: - find a welder that could weld the reinforcement bar back on (easy, 3 tacks should do it); - drill 2 / 3 holes and fasten the bar with stainless steel rivets or small M4 bolts and nuts. Alternatively, ship me the lid back and I'll fix it for you if you have trouble finding a local welder. Sorry for your problem, but at least the frame is still usable! Steven Hi Steven I still have the bar, I used the frame without it and it came unclipped at the top during the dive. The base plate is quite flimsy so it allows the frame to move up wards and unclip. I was going to try areldite but perhaps Ill look into getting it welded first. ATB Mark Chase C __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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23rd April 2006, 05:59	#150 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,115	Re: feedback on Decoweenie travelframe Quote: (Originally Posted by steevke) Mark, we added the reinforcing bar at the last moment when we felt that the lid was 'flimsy' without. In the beginning we spotwelded them on, later we TIG welded them for extra solidity. You don't really need the bar but the lid is much stronger with the bar. If you wish, I can send you either a new folded bar (if you lost yours), you could then either: - find a welder that could weld the reinforcement bar back on (easy, 3 tacks should do it); - drill 2 / 3 holes and fasten the bar with stainless steel rivets or small M4 bolts and nuts. Alternatively, ship me the lid back and I'll fix it for you if you have trouble finding a local welder. Sorry for your problem, but at least the frame is still useable! Steven Sojudging by Mark's ccount.. Is this why my lid poped off several times ( 1s batch).. I finally got around to strainghtening (well mostly) all the bends and I think a few "reinforcement" bars are necessary.. 1 across the bottom square, and two more to vertically to connect the bottom square to where the BP bar on the middle square ends and in front to bottom of middle square.. I am toying with the idea of cuttong off the bottom "square" and making anothet square section for it, so that this lower section can be revoved for transport, and connect at destination by simply using 4 screws.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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