Check your ADV feed hoses!!!

intouch1 · 18th August 2008, 19:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Have you been to the factory?
Have you dived with the staff and MD?
How much AP kit have you had?

We are talking about the hose issue here nothing else and as far as we know this is isolated to a few hoses. If every unit leaving the factory had this problem then it would be a much bigger problem.
Given that the units were sold in April and they've only just fail in August after 4 months that's not bad for a hose that isn't finished.

PS nobody has been proven to have died as a direct result of battery bounce. (to my knowledge)

isolated to a few hoses could have been isolated to a few lives.
i bought my unit in April 2007 and luckily i stumbled upon this thread when it was posted and was able to make sure my hoses are fine.

furthermore, ap has responded way too late in my opinion with me having received the circular only today while this thread has been on for quite a while now.

as for the batteries, there were incidents where the units were found to be switched off. unfortunately their respective divers are not amongst us anymore to confirm that they switched off their units or jumped in without switching them on......................................

Mdemon · 19th August 2008, 20:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by intouch1)

isolated to a few hoses could have been isolated to a few lives.
i bought my unit in April 2007 and luckily i stumbled upon this thread when it was posted and was able to make sure my hoses are fine.

furthermore, ap has responded way too late in my opinion with me having received the circular only today while this thread has been on for quite a while now.

as for the batteries, there were incidents where the units were found to be switched off. unfortunately their respective divers are not amongst us anymore to confirm that they switched off their units or jumped in without switching them on......................................

I think that's a little melodramatic. If the ADV hose comes off, I suspect most people would notice the bubbles. I suspect they may even be bright enough to shut down their dil valve and stop said bubbles. At no time does this compromise what they're breathing in the loop. It's a free-flow.

By the way, the manual switch on the Classic is fairly obvious. It's on, or it's off. If the old-style box is in use, and if battery bounce affects both handsets at the same time, and if the user doesn't notice this and dies, then the unit will be found with the switches in the On position. Any theory that the user notices both handsets are dead, turns them both off at the same time to "reboot", then dies before switching one or both back on is frankly ludicrous.

I received my email from Nicky a few days after the thread. I guess she's banging them off manually and I guess this may take her a little while. Meanwhile, you seem to have got the message from Rebreather World and presumably The List. Glad you're safe.

jhaaja · 19th August 2008, 20:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mdemon)

I think that's a little melodramatic. If the ADV hose comes off, I suspect most people would notice the bubbles. I suspect they may even be bright enough to shut down their dil valve and stop said bubbles. At no time does this compromise what they're breathing in the loop. It's a free-flow.

That is true that it is just a free flow, but I would say that you can not close the dil valve fast enough to save any gas... It blows the tank empty in seconds.

Anyway your loop is not compromised but your underwear might be

And you will also get water into your dil side on the manifold and also the 1st stage.

JH

blue_dubai · 20th August 2008, 06:30

I purchased my unit in April 2008.
The time between reading this threat and receiving a notification took AP more than 12 days. I checked my hoses immediately with being happy that everything looks like it should.
Quite scary to think of anyone going diving and not knowing that one of his hoses might be affected...
I just hope this will not lead to any accidents.

18th August 2008, 19:14	#31 (permalink)
intouch1 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Red Sea Posts: 13	Re: Check your ADV feed hoses!!! Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Have you been to the factory? Have you dived with the staff and MD? How much AP kit have you had? We are talking about the hose issue here nothing else and as far as we know this is isolated to a few hoses. If every unit leaving the factory had this problem then it would be a much bigger problem. Given that the units were sold in April and they've only just fail in August after 4 months that's not bad for a hose that isn't finished. PS nobody has been proven to have died as a direct result of battery bounce. (to my knowledge) isolated to a few hoses could have been isolated to a few lives. i bought my unit in April 2007 and luckily i stumbled upon this thread when it was posted and was able to make sure my hoses are fine. furthermore, ap has responded way too late in my opinion with me having received the circular only today while this thread has been on for quite a while now. as for the batteries, there were incidents where the units were found to be switched off. unfortunately their respective divers are not amongst us anymore to confirm that they switched off their units or jumped in without switching them on......................................
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19th August 2008, 20:19	#32 (permalink)
Mdemon SiegeEngine II Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SWUK Posts: 1,946	Re: Check your ADV feed hoses!!! Quote: (Originally Posted by intouch1) isolated to a few hoses could have been isolated to a few lives. i bought my unit in April 2007 and luckily i stumbled upon this thread when it was posted and was able to make sure my hoses are fine. furthermore, ap has responded way too late in my opinion with me having received the circular only today while this thread has been on for quite a while now. as for the batteries, there were incidents where the units were found to be switched off. unfortunately their respective divers are not amongst us anymore to confirm that they switched off their units or jumped in without switching them on...................................... I think that's a little melodramatic. If the ADV hose comes off, I suspect most people would notice the bubbles. I suspect they may even be bright enough to shut down their dil valve and stop said bubbles. At no time does this compromise what they're breathing in the loop. It's a free-flow. By the way, the manual switch on the Classic is fairly obvious. It's on, or it's off. If the old-style box is in use, and if battery bounce affects both handsets at the same time, and if the user doesn't notice this and dies, then the unit will be found with the switches in the On position. Any theory that the user notices both handsets are dead, turns them both off at the same time to "reboot", then dies before switching one or both back on is frankly ludicrous. I received my email from Nicky a few days after the thread. I guess she's banging them off manually and I guess this may take her a little while. Meanwhile, you seem to have got the message from Rebreather World and presumably The List. Glad you're safe. __________________ www.southwestmafia.com "small minds talk about people, Average Minds Talk About Events, GREAT MINDS TALK ABOUT IDEAS!" The WRONG Attitude will get you killed. "Once the agenda-monkeys and perfect-worlders have moved on, perhaps we can do some diving?" Last edited by Mdemon : 19th August 2008 at 20:24.
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19th August 2008, 20:49	#33 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 885	Re: Check your ADV feed hoses!!! Quote: (Originally Posted by Mdemon) I think that's a little melodramatic. If the ADV hose comes off, I suspect most people would notice the bubbles. I suspect they may even be bright enough to shut down their dil valve and stop said bubbles. At no time does this compromise what they're breathing in the loop. It's a free-flow. That is true that it is just a free flow, but I would say that you can not close the dil valve fast enough to save any gas... It blows the tank empty in seconds. Anyway your loop is not compromised but your underwear might be And you will also get water into your dil side on the manifold and also the 1st stage. JH
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20th August 2008, 06:30	#34 (permalink)
blue_dubai RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 50	Re: Check your ADV feed hoses!!! I purchased my unit in April 2008. The time between reading this threat and receiving a notification took AP more than 12 days. I checked my hoses immediately with being happy that everything looks like it should. Quite scary to think of anyone going diving and not knowing that one of his hoses might be affected... I just hope this will not lead to any accidents. __________________ Best Regards, Saman
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