Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution

decoweenie · 18th November 2005, 14:03

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decoweenie · 18th November 2005, 14:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mdemon)

...for the full version can I recommend a carrying bar at the top?

I will discuss with the team.

For the moment, I think it might be an optional item so people do not have to pay for something they might not need/want.

***schford*** · 18th November 2005, 17:39

I would keep it off and save weight people can have it on their backplate if they want.

DaveB · 18th November 2005, 19:58

Please excuse a silly question. I have only used the standard AP wing and harness, as I wasn't into backplates on OC and find the "as is" setup very comfortable.

Do you need to use a backplate with this rig? Could I just attach the standard AP wing and harness through two bolt holes to the travel frame?

decoweenie · 18th November 2005, 20:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by DaveB)

Do you need to use a backplate with this rig? Could I just attach the standard AP wing and harness through two bolt holes to the travel frame?

The standard AP wing and hardness should have 2 mounting holes 11" apart (standard industry standard) which you could use to mount anything to using 2 bolts/nuts.

So you don't have to use the backplate system with it.

BTW, the 2 bolts on the Travel Frame could be adjusted to any height along the frame as you like to best suit your trim. Also, the distance between the bolts is adjustable in 1" increment as well in case you have something that doesn't use the standard industry 11" spacing.

colinicky · 18th November 2005, 21:17

Silly question time what does it weigh all fitted with bp & wing ready to dive ?

decoweenie · 19th November 2005, 04:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Silly question time what does it weigh all fitted with bp & wing ready to dive ?

It would depend on the weight of your particular backplate, wing, unit, light, accessories and etc. So I can't tell you the exact weight for your particular set-up.

The frame itself is ~2-kg/4.5lb. The original plastic case from APV weighs more.

However, besides saving weight while travel, the idea is to save volume for packing as well. And unlike the case, you could use any tanks with the frame.

decoweenie · 21st November 2005, 10:27

Phi
Phi
Dave T
Steven
Paul B
Joe R
PCDiver
jahaaja
recrebreather
John Dekker
Mark Chase
Nick Manfield
Rob Price
Tom F
Tom F
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UKsteve
Jason Blackwell
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jhaaja · 21st November 2005, 10:43

One more question:
How is the dil/O2-manifold attached into the frame?
Is it the same style as in original AP-case?

JH
Finland

decoweenie · 21st November 2005, 10:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja)

How is the dil/O2-manifold attached into the frame?
Is it the same style as in original AP-case?

You could see from the 3rd picture on post #35 that the manifold is attached to the frame in the same manner as the AP-case.

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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by Mdemon) ...for the full version can I recommend a carrying bar at the top? I will discuss with the team. For the moment, I think it might be an optional item so people do not have to pay for something they might not need/want. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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DaveB Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belper, Derbyshire, UK Posts: 89	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Please excuse a silly question. I have only used the standard AP wing and harness, as I wasn't into backplates on OC and find the "as is" setup very comfortable. Do you need to use a backplate with this rig? Could I just attach the standard AP wing and harness through two bolt holes to the travel frame? __________________ David
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by DaveB) Do you need to use a backplate with this rig? Could I just attach the standard AP wing and harness through two bolt holes to the travel frame? The standard AP wing and hardness should have 2 mounting holes 11" apart (standard industry standard) which you could use to mount anything to using 2 bolts/nuts. So you don't have to use the backplate system with it. BTW, the 2 bolts on the Travel Frame could be adjusted to any height along the frame as you like to best suit your trim. Also, the distance between the bolts is adjustable in 1" increment as well in case you have something that doesn't use the standard industry 11" spacing. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Silly question time what does it weigh all fitted with bp & wing ready to dive ? It would depend on the weight of your particular backplate, wing, unit, light, accessories and etc. So I can't tell you the exact weight for your particular set-up. The frame itself is ~2-kg/4.5lb. The original plastic case from APV weighs more. However, besides saving weight while travel, the idea is to save volume for packing as well. And unlike the case, you could use any tanks with the frame. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 884	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution One more question: How is the dil/O2-manifold attached into the frame? Is it the same style as in original AP-case? JH Finland
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja) How is the dil/O2-manifold attached into the frame? Is it the same style as in original AP-case? You could see from the 3rd picture on post #35 that the manifold is attached to the frame in the same manner as the AP-case. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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