Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution

Ben Field · 1st February 2006, 17:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Is the real reason for switching to the Sport Kiss
that they make the best floating trays?

Yes precisely... once removed from blocking up the CL's (Who needs it anyway, unless you have weenie-girl-lungs?

) The baffle then makes a perfect cocktail tray, the holes in it help to hold the glasses if you're abit wobbly after a fast ascent to the "bar"

Cheers,
BEN

Shaunzxr · 6th February 2006, 14:47

I’ve looked hard at the Travel Frame and there is 2 things about its design that unfortunately stop me having one.

1. On my YBOD there is space to fit my argon on one side (screwed on Metalsub clamp) and my Salvo torch battery on the other side. I’ve noticed the cylinders on the Travel frame are pushed forward toward the diver more than the YBOD thus leaving less room to fit my argon and battery. I suppose they could go the other side of the cylinders but then they would be hard to reach.

2. I use the existing harness without a back plate relying on the YBOD for comfort. On the Travel frame you would have a metal bar in the middle of your back. So I think you need a back plate with this frame. This adds to the weight when traveling.

I want one but these 2 things stop me

***Beanie*** · 6th February 2006, 14:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by Shaunzxr)

2. I use the existing harness without a back plate relying on the YBOD for comfort. On the Travel frame you would have a metal bar in the middle of your back. So I think you need a back plate with this frame. This adds to the weight when traveling.

Nah, well I say that I've not used one but I can't see that you would and the two I've seen in action both had standard harnesses on.

sensor330 · 6th February 2006, 14:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Shaunzxr)

I’ve looked hard at the Travel Frame and there is 2 things about its design that unfortunately stop me having one.

1. On my YBOD there is space to fit my argon on one side (screwed on Metalsub clamp) and my Salvo torch battery on the other side. I’ve noticed the cylinders on the Travel frame are pushed forward toward the diver more than the YBOD thus leaving less room to fit my argon and battery. I suppose they could go the other side of the cylinders but then they would be hard to reach.

You could use g-snaps to attach your suit inflation and light. They would tuck nicely out of the way too.

2. I use the existing harness without a back plate relying on the YBOD for comfort. On the Travel frame you would have a metal bar in the middle of your back. So I think you need a back plate with this frame. This adds to the weight when traveling.

I want one but these 2 things stop me

I believe the standard harness will fit to the frame.

divetheworld · 6th February 2006, 15:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by Shaunzxr)

I’ve looked hard at the Travel Frame and there is 2 things about its design that unfortunately stop me having one.

1. On my YBOD there is space to fit my argon on one side (screwed on Metalsub clamp) and my Salvo torch battery on the other side. I’ve noticed the cylinders on the Travel frame are pushed forward toward the diver more than the YBOD thus leaving less room to fit my argon and battery. I suppose they could go the other side of the cylinders but then they would be hard to reach.

You can mount the cyls further back. There are two positions where they can fit if you need them too. It is possible to mount the cylinder on the top aswell. Otherwise a little more imagination would be required.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Shaunzxr)

2. I use the existing harness without a back plate relying on the YBOD for comfort. On the Travel frame you would have a metal bar in the middle of your back. So I think you need a back plate with this frame. This adds to the weight when traveling.

I want one but these 2 things stop me

Try an ABS backplate if you must, they weigh practically nothing.

Brent.

P.S.
Phi, my can of beer arrived this morning, thanks mate..........................

Oh, yeah nearly forgot, the frame came in the same parcel. Thanks, looks sweeeeeeet.

decoweenie · 6th February 2006, 17:08

Mark Chase posted some pictures how he installed an Argon tank at the feet. The pictures are either on this thread or on the Travel-Frame feed-back thread.
As mentioned, there are people using standard hardness with the frame. And you could also use AL, ABS or (DeepSeaSupply) plastic backplates as well as OMS/Transpack hardnesses.

To be honest, we didn't plan on having an Argon tank for this frame since it was meant for traveling to warmwater destinations thus negate the need for Argon.

Of course, it doesn't mean that people don't travel to coldwater destinations as well. We just didn't take that into the equation.

We should start the Drysuit Frame project in May when a new manufacturing machine arrives. It should be able to take at least 4 tanks, etc. but definitely will be heavier.

Also, if the demand is high enough to warrant a design modification to the Travel-Frame to include Argon mount, we could take care of that as well.

Just simple demand and supply...

decoweenie · 6th February 2006, 17:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld)

...my can of beer arrived this morning, thanks mate..........................

Wee, we didn't want to be sued for false-advertisement since the beer was shown in the picture...

Cheers!

dave t · 6th February 2006, 17:29

the idea is to keep the profile as small as poss, keeping the cylinders close to your back makes for very good trim and very low drag. it is possible to fit and reach either a suit cylinder, a torch battery or both behind the cylinders.
The standard harness on the centre spine will work fine, it may be worth using a couple of the portland oceaneering "nuts" instead of wing nuts to spread the load a little but I have dived my frame with just a transpac and it works fine

Dave

diverklondike · 6th February 2006, 17:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Mark Chase posted some pictures how he installed an Argon tank at the feet. The pictures are either on this thread or on the Travel-Frame feed-back thread.
As mentioned, there are people using standard hardness with the frame. And you could also use AL, ABS or (DeepSeaSupply) plastic backplates as well as OMS/Transpack hardnesses.

To be honest, we didn't plan on having an Argon tank for this frame since it was meant for traveling to warmwater destinations thus negate the need for Argon.

Of course, it doesn't mean that people don't travel to coldwater destinations as well. We just didn't take that into the equation.

We should start the Drysuit Frame project in May when a new manufacturing machine arrives. It should be able to take at least 4 tanks, etc. but definitely will be heavier.

Also, if the demand is high enough to warrant a design modification to the Travel-Frame to include Argon mount, we could take care of that as well.

Just simple demand and supply...

I would be interested in the travel frame now if the argon holder was added... This is one of the reasons that I decided to hold off.

Thanks

Mark

Nick uk. · 6th February 2006, 19:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Wee, we didn't want to be sued for false-advertisement since the beer was shown in the picture...

Cheers!

'SHIT'

, didn't know it came with a free beer!!

I'll have to re-think, and maybe place an order.....................

1st February 2006, 17:21	#141 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,780	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Is the real reason for switching to the Sport Kiss that they make the best floating trays? Yes precisely... once removed from blocking up the CL's (Who needs it anyway, unless you have weenie-girl-lungs? ) The baffle then makes a perfect cocktail tray, the holes in it help to hold the glasses if you're abit wobbly after a fast ascent to the "bar" Cheers, BEN __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! www.hugsac.org.uk
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6th February 2006, 14:47	#142 (permalink)
Shaunzxr Inspo Luver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: UK, midlands Posts: 87	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution I’ve looked hard at the Travel Frame and there is 2 things about its design that unfortunately stop me having one. 1. On my YBOD there is space to fit my argon on one side (screwed on Metalsub clamp) and my Salvo torch battery on the other side. I’ve noticed the cylinders on the Travel frame are pushed forward toward the diver more than the YBOD thus leaving less room to fit my argon and battery. I suppose they could go the other side of the cylinders but then they would be hard to reach. 2. I use the existing harness without a back plate relying on the YBOD for comfort. On the Travel frame you would have a metal bar in the middle of your back. So I think you need a back plate with this frame. This adds to the weight when traveling. I want one but these 2 things stop me
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6th February 2006, 14:51	#143 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,312	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by Shaunzxr) 2. I use the existing harness without a back plate relying on the YBOD for comfort. On the Travel frame you would have a metal bar in the middle of your back. So I think you need a back plate with this frame. This adds to the weight when traveling. Nah, well I say that I've not used one but I can't see that you would and the two I've seen in action both had standard harnesses on. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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6th February 2006, 14:56	#144 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 594	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by Shaunzxr) I’ve looked hard at the Travel Frame and there is 2 things about its design that unfortunately stop me having one. 1. On my YBOD there is space to fit my argon on one side (screwed on Metalsub clamp) and my Salvo torch battery on the other side. I’ve noticed the cylinders on the Travel frame are pushed forward toward the diver more than the YBOD thus leaving less room to fit my argon and battery. I suppose they could go the other side of the cylinders but then they would be hard to reach. You could use g-snaps to attach your suit inflation and light. They would tuck nicely out of the way too. 2. I use the existing harness without a back plate relying on the YBOD for comfort. On the Travel frame you would have a metal bar in the middle of your back. So I think you need a back plate with this frame. This adds to the weight when traveling. I want one but these 2 things stop me I believe the standard harness will fit to the frame.
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6th February 2006, 15:03	#145 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,638	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by Shaunzxr) I’ve looked hard at the Travel Frame and there is 2 things about its design that unfortunately stop me having one. 1. On my YBOD there is space to fit my argon on one side (screwed on Metalsub clamp) and my Salvo torch battery on the other side. I’ve noticed the cylinders on the Travel frame are pushed forward toward the diver more than the YBOD thus leaving less room to fit my argon and battery. I suppose they could go the other side of the cylinders but then they would be hard to reach. You can mount the cyls further back. There are two positions where they can fit if you need them too. It is possible to mount the cylinder on the top aswell. Otherwise a little more imagination would be required. Quote: (Originally Posted by Shaunzxr) 2. I use the existing harness without a back plate relying on the YBOD for comfort. On the Travel frame you would have a metal bar in the middle of your back. So I think you need a back plate with this frame. This adds to the weight when traveling. I want one but these 2 things stop me Try an ABS backplate if you must, they weigh practically nothing. Brent. P.S. Phi, my can of beer arrived this morning, thanks mate.......................... Oh, yeah nearly forgot, the frame came in the same parcel. Thanks, looks sweeeeeeet. __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Last edited by divetheworld : 6th February 2006 at 15:05.
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6th February 2006, 17:08	#146 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Mark Chase posted some pictures how he installed an Argon tank at the feet. The pictures are either on this thread or on the Travel-Frame feed-back thread. As mentioned, there are people using standard hardness with the frame. And you could also use AL, ABS or (DeepSeaSupply) plastic backplates as well as OMS/Transpack hardnesses. To be honest, we didn't plan on having an Argon tank for this frame since it was meant for traveling to warmwater destinations thus negate the need for Argon. Of course, it doesn't mean that people don't travel to coldwater destinations as well. We just didn't take that into the equation. We should start the Drysuit Frame project in May when a new manufacturing machine arrives. It should be able to take at least 4 tanks, etc. but definitely will be heavier. Also, if the demand is high enough to warrant a design modification to the Travel-Frame to include Argon mount, we could take care of that as well. Just simple demand and supply... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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6th February 2006, 17:10	#147 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by divetheworld) ...my can of beer arrived this morning, thanks mate.......................... Wee, we didn't want to be sued for false-advertisement since the beer was shown in the picture... Cheers! __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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6th February 2006, 17:29	#148 (permalink)
dave t RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 674	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution the idea is to keep the profile as small as poss, keeping the cylinders close to your back makes for very good trim and very low drag. it is possible to fit and reach either a suit cylinder, a torch battery or both behind the cylinders. The standard harness on the centre spine will work fine, it may be worth using a couple of the portland oceaneering "nuts" instead of wing nuts to spread the load a little but I have dived my frame with just a transpac and it works fine Dave
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6th February 2006, 17:30	#149 (permalink)
diverklondike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,714	Re: Travel frame for Inspiration and Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Mark Chase posted some pictures how he installed an Argon tank at the feet. The pictures are either on this thread or on the Travel-Frame feed-back thread. As mentioned, there are people using standard hardness with the frame. And you could also use AL, ABS or (DeepSeaSupply) plastic backplates as well as OMS/Transpack hardnesses. To be honest, we didn't plan on having an Argon tank for this frame since it was meant for traveling to warmwater destinations thus negate the need for Argon. Of course, it doesn't mean that people don't travel to coldwater destinations as well. We just didn't take that into the equation. We should start the Drysuit Frame project in May when a new manufacturing machine arrives. It should be able to take at least 4 tanks, etc. but definitely will be heavier. Also, if the demand is high enough to warrant a design modification to the Travel-Frame to include Argon mount, we could take care of that as well. Just simple demand and supply... I would be interested in the travel frame now if the argon holder was added... This is one of the reasons that I decided to hold off. Thanks Mark
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6th February 2006, 19:40	#150 (permalink)
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