Re: New Hammerhead

robprice · 6th November 2005, 07:54

Hello all

I have decided to get the new hammerhead.
So what I am after is some feed back about what
people think about the new hammerhead.
Also any feed back on the DIVA.
Is it a simple plug in and play or is there a few things
needed to be done before use.
How has the handsets and software been. (hand sets look good).
Also at the momment I am using a VR3 and 4th cell as main computer.
I am thinking of selling this on when I get the hammerhead, should
I keep the VR3 or just sell it on. (Have a back ccr computer as well)

Thanks for any advice
Robprice

***jradomski*** · 6th November 2005, 11:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by robprice)

Hello all

I have decided to get the new hammerhead.
So what I am after is some feed back about what
people think about the new hammerhead.
Also any feed back on the DIVA.
Is it a simple plug in and play or is there a few things
needed to be done before use.
How has the handsets and software been. (hand sets look good).
Also at the momment I am using a VR3 and 4th cell as main computer.
I am thinking of selling this on when I get the hammerhead, should
I keep the VR3 or just sell it on. (Have a back ccr computer as well)

Thanks for any advice
Robprice

I have been one of the very first divers on the HH and probably have mour hours on it than anyone else.. Overall the units are quite stable.. There have been some problems in the past (mostly flooded fischer connectors) but now that its hard plumbed that should be gone..

Repetitive dives IMHO were a bit more agressive than GF software predicted (but still was less agressive than RGBM), current software should be a closer match.

I personally run the HH with a second computer plumbed into the loop (I use the explorer), now I have 2 deco algs that when tuned correctly give reasonably similiar profiles (the HH being slightly more conservative even when set at 10/100). iF the HH computer craps out (like a dead battery), you still have another computer with real time deco...

If you are going to count on the computer for your deco (as opposed to tables) you should have at least 2 (preferrably three) computers (or combination tables/computer), because its not IF a computer will fail its WHEN a computer will fail.. If you are multilevel diving, multiple computers would be preferred...

I know I am personally going to miss the fischer connectors (I never had a problem with them), but I am anal with my gear... I know several people who have had units with fischer connectors around 150m without any issues...

robprice · 22nd February 2006, 11:51

To carry on with were I left of.

I would like to know what people think of the deco soft ware that is used in the hammerhead.
Do people find that after using it for a while and have ajusted settings with in the handsets that it is running in line with there main computers that they use... ie VR3 and are willing to use that as ther main dive computer.
Hopfully there should be a bit more feed back now as there is more of these out there now that the Optima is in service and if I am not mistaken this uses the same software.
Do peoeple use the hammerhead as there main computer for deco or remain with a external one as the main dive computer.
I do understand the need for a back up computer and always dive with one and also back up tables and watch.
But after paying out for such equipment and starting to hoard a lot now I feel I need to start to way up cost of todays equipment and start to sell to replace (then buy more new kit).

As yet I have not had chance to dive the hammerhead on my unit yet hopfully when I get back I will.

Robprice

mikedive · 22nd February 2006, 14:38

Hey Rob,

I back up everything Joe wrote about HH.
I'm diving the original HH version on my O2ptima for over than 1 year and I really enjoy it. We receive 3 new units with the new handsets and they just got better. On the last two weeks I trained 6 students on the O2ptima and all 6 finish the course happy with the HH electronics.
We had some issue with external corrosion and on the spring located at the battery cap on the new handsets but already fixed it.
About the back up computer I do the same than Joe. I always carry a back up computer, in my case a VR3 and back up tables for the specifical dive.
Cheers,

Mike - www.protecdiving.com

**Dinspiration** · 23rd February 2006, 08:01

@mikedive

How did you fix the problem with the spring located at the battery cap? By yourself or is there an upgrade available from Kevin?

DINspiration

heyydude · 23rd February 2006, 13:54

We changed recently from a Stainless Steel Spring to a Phosphor-Bronze spring. We found that the Stainless Steel Spring would sometimes shift against the ground pad on some batteries, and not make as good a contact as one would think. This seemed to me to be somewhat counterintuitive, but our shop guy, Ken, demonstrated it to me enough that I became a believer.

((Which just goes to show you that no matter how smart you think you are, there is always something else to learn in this world!)).

We offer free replacement springs to anyone who has a metal HH wrist unit with the Stainless springs.

Kevin Juergensen
Juergensen Marine.

mikedive · 23rd February 2006, 14:01

Hey Dinspiration,

Our units already came with the new springs on the handsets caps and like Kevin say, works fine.
Cheers,

Mike - www.protecdiving.com

Andy · 23rd February 2006, 19:10

ive got a hh on my home build and it works great. So ive placed and order about a month ago for the new model for my ybod should be here soon

andy

6th November 2005, 07:54	#1 (permalink)
robprice Bob.P Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 44	Re: New Hammerhead Hello all I have decided to get the new hammerhead. So what I am after is some feed back about what people think about the new hammerhead. Also any feed back on the DIVA. Is it a simple plug in and play or is there a few things needed to be done before use. How has the handsets and software been. (hand sets look good). Also at the momment I am using a VR3 and 4th cell as main computer. I am thinking of selling this on when I get the hammerhead, should I keep the VR3 or just sell it on. (Have a back ccr computer as well) Thanks for any advice Robprice
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6th November 2005, 11:53	#2 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,115	Re: New Hammerhead Quote: (Originally Posted by robprice) Hello all I have decided to get the new hammerhead. So what I am after is some feed back about what people think about the new hammerhead. Also any feed back on the DIVA. Is it a simple plug in and play or is there a few things needed to be done before use. How has the handsets and software been. (hand sets look good). Also at the momment I am using a VR3 and 4th cell as main computer. I am thinking of selling this on when I get the hammerhead, should I keep the VR3 or just sell it on. (Have a back ccr computer as well) Thanks for any advice Robprice I have been one of the very first divers on the HH and probably have mour hours on it than anyone else.. Overall the units are quite stable.. There have been some problems in the past (mostly flooded fischer connectors) but now that its hard plumbed that should be gone.. Repetitive dives IMHO were a bit more agressive than GF software predicted (but still was less agressive than RGBM), current software should be a closer match. I personally run the HH with a second computer plumbed into the loop (I use the explorer), now I have 2 deco algs that when tuned correctly give reasonably similiar profiles (the HH being slightly more conservative even when set at 10/100). iF the HH computer craps out (like a dead battery), you still have another computer with real time deco... If you are going to count on the computer for your deco (as opposed to tables) you should have at least 2 (preferrably three) computers (or combination tables/computer), because its not IF a computer will fail its WHEN a computer will fail.. If you are multilevel diving, multiple computers would be preferred... I know I am personally going to miss the fischer connectors (I never had a problem with them), but I am anal with my gear... I know several people who have had units with fischer connectors around 150m without any issues... __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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22nd February 2006, 11:51	#3 (permalink)
robprice Bob.P Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 44	Re: New Hammerhead deco software To carry on with were I left of. I would like to know what people think of the deco soft ware that is used in the hammerhead. Do people find that after using it for a while and have ajusted settings with in the handsets that it is running in line with there main computers that they use... ie VR3 and are willing to use that as ther main dive computer. Hopfully there should be a bit more feed back now as there is more of these out there now that the Optima is in service and if I am not mistaken this uses the same software. Do peoeple use the hammerhead as there main computer for deco or remain with a external one as the main dive computer. I do understand the need for a back up computer and always dive with one and also back up tables and watch. But after paying out for such equipment and starting to hoard a lot now I feel I need to start to way up cost of todays equipment and start to sell to replace (then buy more new kit). As yet I have not had chance to dive the hammerhead on my unit yet hopfully when I get back I will. Robprice
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22nd February 2006, 14:38	#4 (permalink)
mikedive Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Brazil, Texas and Mexico Posts: 330	Re: New Hammerhead Hey Rob, I back up everything Joe wrote about HH. I'm diving the original HH version on my O2ptima for over than 1 year and I really enjoy it. We receive 3 new units with the new handsets and they just got better. On the last two weeks I trained 6 students on the O2ptima and all 6 finish the course happy with the HH electronics. We had some issue with external corrosion and on the spring located at the battery cap on the new handsets but already fixed it. About the back up computer I do the same than Joe. I always carry a back up computer, in my case a VR3 and back up tables for the specifical dive. Cheers, Mike - www.protecdiving.com
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23rd February 2006, 08:01	#5 (permalink)
Dinspiration Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 236	Re: New Hammerhead @mikedive How did you fix the problem with the spring located at the battery cap? By yourself or is there an upgrade available from Kevin? DINspiration
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23rd February 2006, 13:54	#6 (permalink)
heyydude King of the Geeks Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Optima Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Addison, Pennsylvania Posts: 380	Re: New Hammerhead We changed recently from a Stainless Steel Spring to a Phosphor-Bronze spring. We found that the Stainless Steel Spring would sometimes shift against the ground pad on some batteries, and not make as good a contact as one would think. This seemed to me to be somewhat counterintuitive, but our shop guy, Ken, demonstrated it to me enough that I became a believer. ((Which just goes to show you that no matter how smart you think you are, there is always something else to learn in this world!)). We offer free replacement springs to anyone who has a metal HH wrist unit with the Stainless springs. Kevin Juergensen Juergensen Marine.
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23rd February 2006, 14:01	#7 (permalink)
mikedive Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Brazil, Texas and Mexico Posts: 330	Re: New Hammerhead Hey Dinspiration, Our units already came with the new springs on the handsets caps and like Kevin say, works fine. Cheers, Mike - www.protecdiving.com
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23rd February 2006, 19:10	#8 (permalink)
Andy New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Stanwick (UK) Posts: 48	Re: New Hammerhead ive got a hh on my home build and it works great. So ive placed and order about a month ago for the new model for my ybod should be here soon andy
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