D-rings

ScubaAl · 27th May 2008, 21:47

Boy am I following this thread. I have always had a problem attaching and removing stage/bailout bottles. I had problems diving OC and now on a Rebreather.
Last weekend as part of trimix training of course we had to remove and replace our bailout bottles. Water was cold, around 40 degrees my hands were froze. Because of this I could not even feel the clips, man did I have a hard time, swearing up a storm. Got the dil reattached but ended up having my buddy help with the O2.
The next day we went on a dive without instructor and was then able to get both removed and reattached without help. Not pretty but got it done. Do need practices, practices, practices.
I think one of the problems seems I need to lengthen the bottom clip. Now I have a problem getting near the D-ring seems like the case and whatever is in the way.
Before the class I did do some modifications to my rig. Kind of a modified armadillos setup. I came up with my owns system for the bungee cord. But instead of the butt plate I just tried using the hip D-ring. But had the cam band in the wrong position, this cause the bottle to rotate and the bungee coming off. So stayed with the stock setup
I have thought about changing over to a SS backplate. But really want the give the AP setup a fair try.
Al

**rigdiver** · 27th May 2008, 21:53

I gave the AP setup a year. Figured I really needed to know stock before changing. Went to a plate with DSS under counterlung D-rings. What I do is have Lg stage cylinder bolt snaps on the shoulder D-rings for kitting up on surface. When UW I then put stage clips up to the shoulder D-rings.

**Dsix36** · 28th May 2008, 00:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by omech)

And an added benifit of the face down position is the water muffles the curses before they reach the ears of innocent children playing near by.

Owen

Now, that's funny

lbdiver21 · 28th May 2008, 12:24

Little clips AP sell to hold D rings out from the wing are a god send they make stages soooooo easy with thick gloves & cold paws, they are cheap at a couple of quid each as well.

Derek

**RichClark** · 28th May 2008, 12:35

Why not nose clip it to your hip D-Ring and sort it out once you're in deeper water?

Failing that don't dive off anythign that doesn't include a bench or a lift

Cheers

Rich

Mike Costanzo · 28th May 2008, 13:24

I also like the large P clips on my stage bottles. Easy to guide/clip onto a 90 degree D ring on the harness belt.

betti154 · 1st June 2008, 01:44

Quote:

Little clips AP sell to hold D rings out from the wing are a god send they make stages soooooo easy with thick gloves & cold paws, they are cheap at a couple of quid each as well.

I had a few issues until I found the Verticlips. My problem was that I found it hard to reach to the wing d-ring and clip with accuracy when the d-ring flush up against the wing. As they now stick out, no such problem.

Mdemon · 1st June 2008, 07:47

If possible, kit up in the water where weight ceases to be an issue, and peer/audience pressure disappears.
Use longer attachments for your clips.

All I can think off. Out of water means kit is certainly very restrictive.

I hate stages. They're heavy and get in the way. Attaching them to a frame works as long as you are prepared for the heavy lift to stand up.

**yves** · 1st June 2008, 11:14

Hi, I fitted a fixed D-ring behind the weight pouch.
You need to cut open the stitches in front of your belt to be able to take the D ring on. Instead of stitching it again I fixed it with steel weight belt retainers.
Greets

divetoyourmax · 1st June 2008, 18:25

Hello,
I make all kinds of Dee rings take a look and see if any of this can help you out Privateer Divers: Providing High Quality Diving Gear. We also do a lot of custom work as well. On my meg i pushed my lugs to the top of my back plate and use one of our SR-1 Dee rings on my chest and on my waist i use A WR-2 it works very well. I'm off to a Bermuda cave project, but I will try to post pic's once I get there.
Rick

27th May 2008, 21:47	#11 (permalink)
ScubaAl New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bloomington, Minnesota Posts: 41	Re: D-rings Boy am I following this thread. I have always had a problem attaching and removing stage/bailout bottles. I had problems diving OC and now on a Rebreather. Last weekend as part of trimix training of course we had to remove and replace our bailout bottles. Water was cold, around 40 degrees my hands were froze. Because of this I could not even feel the clips, man did I have a hard time, swearing up a storm. Got the dil reattached but ended up having my buddy help with the O2. The next day we went on a dive without instructor and was then able to get both removed and reattached without help. Not pretty but got it done. Do need practices, practices, practices. I think one of the problems seems I need to lengthen the bottom clip. Now I have a problem getting near the D-ring seems like the case and whatever is in the way. Before the class I did do some modifications to my rig. Kind of a modified armadillos setup. I came up with my owns system for the bungee cord. But instead of the butt plate I just tried using the hip D-ring. But had the cam band in the wrong position, this cause the bottle to rotate and the bungee coming off. So stayed with the stock setup I have thought about changing over to a SS backplate. But really want the give the AP setup a fair try. Al
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27th May 2008, 21:53	#12 (permalink)
rigdiver LEARNING CONTINUALLY Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS Posts: 411	Re: D-rings I gave the AP setup a year. Figured I really needed to know stock before changing. Went to a plate with DSS under counterlung D-rings. What I do is have Lg stage cylinder bolt snaps on the shoulder D-rings for kitting up on surface. When UW I then put stage clips up to the shoulder D-rings.
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28th May 2008, 00:52	#13 (permalink)
Dsix36 Going Down? Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Deerfield Beach, Florida Posts: 1,062	Re: D-rings Quote: (Originally Posted by omech) And an added benifit of the face down position is the water muffles the curses before they reach the ears of innocent children playing near by. Owen Now, that's funny __________________ THE MORE THAT I LEARN, THE MORE THAT I STILL NEED TO LEARN!!!!!!
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28th May 2008, 12:24	#14 (permalink)
lbdiver21 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 16	Re: D-rings Little clips AP sell to hold D rings out from the wing are a god send they make stages soooooo easy with thick gloves & cold paws, they are cheap at a couple of quid each as well. Derek
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28th May 2008, 12:35	#15 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 778	Re: D-rings Why not nose clip it to your hip D-Ring and sort it out once you're in deeper water? Failing that don't dive off anythign that doesn't include a bench or a lift Cheers Rich __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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28th May 2008, 13:24	#16 (permalink)
Mike Costanzo Never E nuff Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maryland & Florida Posts: 133	Re: D-rings I also like the large P clips on my stage bottles. Easy to guide/clip onto a 90 degree D ring on the harness belt. __________________ Mike
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1st June 2008, 01:44	#17 (permalink)
betti154 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 66	Re: D-rings Quote: Little clips AP sell to hold D rings out from the wing are a god send they make stages soooooo easy with thick gloves & cold paws, they are cheap at a couple of quid each as well. I had a few issues until I found the Verticlips. My problem was that I found it hard to reach to the wing d-ring and clip with accuracy when the d-ring flush up against the wing. As they now stick out, no such problem. __________________ Damien Siviero http://damiensivero.com
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1st June 2008, 07:47	#18 (permalink)
Mdemon SiegeEngine II Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SWUK Posts: 1,927	Re: D-rings If possible, kit up in the water where weight ceases to be an issue, and peer/audience pressure disappears. Use longer attachments for your clips. All I can think off. Out of water means kit is certainly very restrictive. I hate stages. They're heavy and get in the way. Attaching them to a frame works as long as you are prepared for the heavy lift to stand up. __________________ www.southwestmafia.com "small minds talk about people, Average Minds Talk About Events, GREAT MINDS TALK ABOUT IDEAS!" The WRONG Attitude will get you killed. "Once the agenda-monkeys and perfect-worlders have moved on, perhaps we can do some diving?"
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1st June 2008, 18:25	#20 (permalink)
divetoyourmax New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon rEvo Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other SCR Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ct Posts: 48	Re: D-rings Hello, I make all kinds of Dee rings take a look and see if any of this can help you out Privateer Divers: Providing High Quality Diving Gear. We also do a lot of custom work as well. On my meg i pushed my lugs to the top of my back plate and use one of our SR-1 Dee rings on my chest and on my waist i use A WR-2 it works very well. I'm off to a Bermuda cave project, but I will try to post pic's once I get there. Rick
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