Vision trimix electronics

Dave Faye

Any good/bad thoughts on the new vision electronics, tempt stick etc.

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Dave
I have been using the Vision electronics on the Evolution for several months now. I think it is the ducks nuts.

The control and deco display is fantastic and very easy to read on the wrist mounted display. Adjusting settings for the CCR and deco are real simple and very intuitive. Deco display info is also very simple to read. Only having the one display to view both controllers is terrific. The HUD is terrific and simple to interpret. Both controllers are displayed on the HUD so if there is a problem then it will turn red and warn you to look at your handsets.

I was originally not going to get the temp stick but after diving with it I wouldn't do without it. It makes a great package even better.

Whilst there is debate about the temp stick - it seems to come from those that haven't used it. Once more people use the temp stick I think that it will very quickly gain in popularity.

I would highly recommend the Inspiration or Evolution with the Vision electronics.

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Rod

DaveB

Hear Hear ! My feelings exactly.

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decoweenie

Ditto.

However, there are several things I don't like about it:

1. The cable connector is in the wrong position thus making the display rotates outward making it difficult to read. It needs to be higher up than where it meets the display box at the moment.
2. The deco information displayed is the dynamic tissue-ceiling instead of standard stops like a GF-table-profile. Thus comparing to GF tables a bit tricky, but do-able.

Temp-Stick is a lovely tool. After 4.5 hours of shallow 30m teaching dives, it is shown that only 1/2 the sorb is gone...

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Crazyduck

OUCH! That sounds bloody painful... 8) Andrew

camerone

I'm now 20 hours into my Evo (not bad for a month...), and I wouldn't trade the Vision head for the old Inspiration head I learned on for anything...

I'm totally in agreement with you about the cable to the computer. It's also way, way too long. Wrapping it around my arm causes the computer to twist awkwardly, and velcroing it to the harness straps restricts mobility, and makes it even harder to reach the @$%@#$% D-rings under the counterlungs. Horrible harness design there...

15/85 on the gradient factor seems to do an okay job matching my VR3, but it's weird to see the deco time accumulate on the handset as a couple of feet and then slowly work its way down... I think I'd have preferred the standard 30/20/10 foot stops.

HUD and Temp stick - when I first dove prototypes last January in the Socorro Islands from SDS, I thought they were gimmicky, but, being the software geek, I ordered them anyway when I purchased. Now, I wouldn't give them up. The HUD paid for itself when I was squeezing around in a wreck last weekend - much more conveninet than reaching around, hitting the backlight control, twisting the dang controller around to see it, and then going back to what I was doing... and the temp stick eliminated the "am I going to break through?" question for the fourth dive...

caveseeker7

Should have stayed another 4.5 hours to make sure it's accurate.

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decoweenie

I am contemplating about making a suggestion to AP-Valve about making it an option: a) tissue ceiling OR b) rigid per 3m/10ft stops like tables.

Yes, I agree. I like the HUD on the Evolution a lot more than on my Hammerhead since the display is so difficult to wear in the right place on the wrist, so I have been trying it in different places including strapping to the left chest D-ring, etc.

Still haven't found a place that I am comfortable with like my KISS or HH displays that only require a glance to read without struggling with the other hand to bring the display into view.

Or may be I am just being picky...

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decoweenie

Yeh, but I only needed to do 4 dives that week-end or I would have tried to push it a bit more in the shallow.

When I took the loop apart and inspected the scrubber, the sorb was all lumped into a solid block (at least at the bottom) so it was time to change.

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camerone

Not a bad idea. I'd gladly support you in that request. I usually aim for the nearest standard stop depth below the tissue ceiling, hang out until it says I can move up the chain to the next standard stop, etc. Perhaps not the most efficient, but it keeps me in line with the other computer or tables better, so if things go south, it's easier to clean up the mess. I like to avoid "Use Tables" flashing on the other display...
Reminds me that I forgot about the strap they included in the "spares kit" to wear it hanging, like the old classic handsets. I'm up for three boat dives tomororw in the south Puget Sound...if I get time while setting up gear tonight, I may switch the handset mounting and see if hanging the controller doesn't help.

...that is, as long as I don't have to clip it off to those blasted D rings on the harness. APV makes nice plastic bits to hold the hip ones in place, but I'm always missing the ones on my left side, where I keep all the stages or bailout gas.