Dump the Autoair

Tim@TDL · 26th April 2008, 19:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by ajmtucke)

surely if it is seviced and working correctly it should not leak. They are tested as with the inspo to 150m and wouldn't be supplied with it if they were not reliable, so why change.

mine and has never leaked at any depth (and never really been serviced or really looked after much at all) !

just a thought

ash

I agree. Mine leaked quite bad until I had the first stage serviced. Now it's fine. Well by fine I mean that it doesn't leak, I still don't care for the "buddy air" much.

I will be changing mine to a normal PI, and then just using a standard second stage for bail out.

NARKEDAT30 · 27th April 2008, 22:04

Mine leaked continuosly on a brand new out of the box Evolution after dive 2 on MOD 1.......adjusted it myself as Nigel stated....no problems since...but I will still replace it....its just to large and bulky.

**rigdiver** · 28th April 2008, 00:37

Mine leaked on a brand new unit also. It was adjusted almost daily. It would start to slowly leak and just get worse every time. I went to an Oxycheq wing and a standard inflator. Now you must put an overpressure valve on the first stage and carry bailout(which is a given anyway.)
My 2 cents.

CharlieT · 3rd May 2008, 13:48

I don't know how well they work as I shed mine on the day I qualified

I think they're pig ugly but that's just MHO

Fitted a Halcyon inflator and I had a spare Scubapro R380 2nd stage so that hung below my chin on a necklace holder.

That took care of wing inflation and onboard bailout for early Vision dives.

Once I started diving that much deeper, I removed the onboard bailout as a 3L diluent cylinder doesn't last long (at depth).

The Halcyon inflator hasn't missed a beat in 2.5 years.

tekdiver170 · 3rd May 2008, 21:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by CharlieT)

I don't know how well they work as I shed mine on the day I qualified

I think they're pig ugly but that's just MHO

Fitted a Halcyon inflator and I had a spare Scubapro R380 2nd stage so that hung below my chin on a necklace holder.

That took care of wing inflation and onboard bailout for early Vision dives.

Once I started diving that much deeper, I removed the onboard bailout as a 3L diluent cylinder doesn't last long (at depth).

The Halcyon inflator hasn't missed a beat in 2.5 years.

Exactly what I did. But I did shorten the inflator hose by about 6-8 inches. I still have the R380 and necklace. It's not in the way so it's still there.

Steve the Box · 4th May 2008, 07:01

When you come to
sell your old unit it looks nice
and new from no use, its by far
the worst part on the inspo.

jptaylor9 · 4th May 2008, 08:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by Eoin)

So what type of wing inflator do you replace it with and where did you get it? Did you manage to just remove the Auroair bit and leave the rest as is somehow?

I replaced mine with a standard APD wing/bcd inflator, I had to replace the aoutoair hose (different fitting/bore) with a new hose with the same connectors as are on the diluent inflator hose. Got my LDS to cut some hose to correct length & fitted reusable AP fittings at each end.

osiris · 4th May 2008, 10:12

Took mine off - Golem BOV and Apeks stage B/Outs do it for me. Anyone want to buy an Auto air?

stuey · 4th May 2008, 15:15

Initially removed the autoair after completing Mod1 fitted a Golem BOV and an inflator of an Icaro Tech wing I had spare.
I also replaced the box with a Decoweenie trave frame.
After Mod 2, I replaced the AP wing with a OMS 60lbs dual bladder wing as I mainly dive in a wet suit.

26th April 2008, 19:46	#11 (permalink)
Tim@TDL New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lake Havasu City Posts: 42	Re: Dump the Autoair Quote: (Originally Posted by ajmtucke) surely if it is seviced and working correctly it should not leak. They are tested as with the inspo to 150m and wouldn't be supplied with it if they were not reliable, so why change. mine and has never leaked at any depth (and never really been serviced or really looked after much at all) ! just a thought ash I agree. Mine leaked quite bad until I had the first stage serviced. Now it's fine. Well by fine I mean that it doesn't leak, I still don't care for the "buddy air" much. I will be changing mine to a normal PI, and then just using a standard second stage for bail out. __________________ Tim Barlow Account Executive (I sell stuff) Tech Diving Limited
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27th April 2008, 22:04	#12 (permalink)
NARKEDAT30 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: LINCOLN UK Posts: 12	Re: Dump the Autoair Mine leaked continuosly on a brand new out of the box Evolution after dive 2 on MOD 1.......adjusted it myself as Nigel stated....no problems since...but I will still replace it....its just to large and bulky.
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28th April 2008, 00:37	#13 (permalink)
rigdiver LEARNING CONTINUALLY Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS Posts: 406	Re: Dump the Autoair Mine leaked on a brand new unit also. It was adjusted almost daily. It would start to slowly leak and just get worse every time. I went to an Oxycheq wing and a standard inflator. Now you must put an overpressure valve on the first stage and carry bailout(which is a given anyway.) My 2 cents.
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3rd May 2008, 13:48	#14 (permalink)
CharlieT Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 449	Re: Dump the Autoair I don't know how well they work as I shed mine on the day I qualified I think they're pig ugly but that's just MHO Fitted a Halcyon inflator and I had a spare Scubapro R380 2nd stage so that hung below my chin on a necklace holder. That took care of wing inflation and onboard bailout for early Vision dives. Once I started diving that much deeper, I removed the onboard bailout as a 3L diluent cylinder doesn't last long (at depth). The Halcyon inflator hasn't missed a beat in 2.5 years.
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3rd May 2008, 21:04	#15 (permalink)
tekdiver170 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 87	Re: Dump the Autoair Quote: (Originally Posted by CharlieT) I don't know how well they work as I shed mine on the day I qualified I think they're pig ugly but that's just MHO Fitted a Halcyon inflator and I had a spare Scubapro R380 2nd stage so that hung below my chin on a necklace holder. That took care of wing inflation and onboard bailout for early Vision dives. Once I started diving that much deeper, I removed the onboard bailout as a 3L diluent cylinder doesn't last long (at depth). The Halcyon inflator hasn't missed a beat in 2.5 years. Exactly what I did. But I did shorten the inflator hose by about 6-8 inches. I still have the R380 and necklace. It's not in the way so it's still there. __________________ Diving is my therapy... keeps the voices in my head from getting louder. Good thing rebreathers have no bubbles, now I can hear them again. - Chris Liles www.oahuscubadiving.com www.hawaiitechnicaldivers.com
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4th May 2008, 07:01	#16 (permalink)
Steve the Box New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Surrey,England Posts: 7	Re: Dump the Autoair When you come to sell your old unit it looks nice and new from no use, its by far the worst part on the inspo.
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4th May 2008, 08:26	#17 (permalink)
jptaylor9 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 305	Re: Dump the Autoair Quote: (Originally Posted by Eoin) So what type of wing inflator do you replace it with and where did you get it? Did you manage to just remove the Auroair bit and leave the rest as is somehow? I replaced mine with a standard APD wing/bcd inflator, I had to replace the aoutoair hose (different fitting/bore) with a new hose with the same connectors as are on the diluent inflator hose. Got my LDS to cut some hose to correct length & fitted reusable AP fittings at each end. Last edited by jptaylor9 : 4th May 2008 at 10:17.
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4th May 2008, 10:12	#18 (permalink)
osiris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 217	Re: Dump the Autoair Took mine off - Golem BOV and Apeks stage B/Outs do it for me. Anyone want to buy an Auto air?
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4th May 2008, 15:15	#19 (permalink)
stuey New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 35	Re: Dump the Autoair Initially removed the autoair after completing Mod1 fitted a Golem BOV and an inflator of an Icaro Tech wing I had spare. I also replaced the box with a Decoweenie trave frame. After Mod 2, I replaced the AP wing with a OMS 60lbs dual bladder wing as I mainly dive in a wet suit.
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