New Evolution + Rebreather

Gobfish1

yes
no
not a chance

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Dave Faye

John what is the depth, water temp and duration of the dives you did when you maxed the scrubber?

I frequently dive in New England at or beyond 100 meters on my Evo in temps of 40-45 bottom and 60-65 surface with 2-3 hour runtimes and have never maxed my scrubber or even had a suppressible scrubber warning.

I am right with you on the size of the onboard gas. I never come close to running out of onboard gas on these dives. I use a few c.u. feet of dil and about 1/2 my 02 and this is with several shallow 02 flushes on deco.


Generally, I am really looking forward to the Evo+. I have been hounding SDS and AP for a while to make this happen. It really is the best of both worlds for deep divers and travelers like me.

They did make a few prototypes. John C. has one. Last I heard he had it up for sale.


Dave

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PhilSiswick

Counterlungs are the same. The hoses from the head are shorter than on the Inspo, but I'd assume that the Evo+ would use the Evo hoses. Otherwise, you'd have a unit the height of an Inspo with 2l cylinders. Of course, that is all just assumption.

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Depth-junkie

Is it just me that cant really see the point of this??

The inspo weight is 29KG's and the Evo's is 24KG's, isnt most of this weight difference down to the bigger 3ltr bottles of the inspo and the extra 0.5 kg of scrubber??

As to the traveling diver, bottles are not an issue as you 99.9% of the time hire these at your destination. So i fail to see how this is any better to travel with than a standard inspo other than it will fit in a slightly smaller case.




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Tino de Rijk

Dave is right (as usual). The conversion kit will consist of the following parts (this is the list for a medium size C/L conversion):

• Case assembly EV10P (the new black & yellow case itself with room for the larger scrubber);
• Oxygen inject hose EV20/03 (is longer than on Inspo, because it comes straight from 1st stage);
• Oxygen inflator hose for counterlung EV20/04 (same story as above);
• Diluent inflator hose for counterlung EV20/05 (if you want, you can shorten the existing Inspo hose instead, but realize you cannot build it back to an Inspiration anymore then…);
• Oxygen high pressure hose EV20/08 (The existing Inspo hose is 130mm too long; if you can live with that, you can leave it as is. HP hoses cannot be shortened);
• Diluent high pressure hose EV20/09 (Same story as above for oxygen HP hose);
• Auto Air hose EV50/24 (Same story here: you can shorten the existing hose instead, but realize you cannot build it back to an Inspiration anymore then…);
• Manifold to ADV hose AP300/10 (Same story here: you can shorten the existing hose instead, but realize you cannot build it back to an Inspiration anymore then…);
• Manifold EV50/07 (the Evo manifold is smaller as it only has diluent in/outputs);
• Diluent first stage FS101 (Only required if unit was originally supplied with Apeks first stages.The only reason you need this is because the angle of the MP hoses needs to be different for proper hose routing. The APD 1st stages cater for that. You could consider a 90 degree “knee” adapter on one of the hoses);
• Oxygen first stage FS101A (same story as above for FS101)
• 2 litre diluent cylinder with valve AP6M/RB13
• 2 litre oxygen cylinder with valve AP6MOX/RB13A

If you go for the full kit as mentioned above, that will set you back around 760 pound. See their new online store for parts prices of you leave some parts out to reduce the price.

ciao,

Tino.

divetheworld

I dont get it. I'm with Gareth. Honestly, I really dont get it.
If you want small and lightweight for travel, why not just get a Weenie frame or similar? Dave T, Phi Le designed it to fit in handluggage and weigh 2kg.
The APD box requires new parts to make it fit, occupies space and mass/displacement isnt as good. Your limited to 2 ltr cyls with APD tank valves so a long semi closed isnt on the menu and specific rental tanks will need to be found when travelling.
A frame can carry any size or type cylinders, uses less space and doesnt need new hoses or first stages to change over.

Just a thought.

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Beanie

Or an ultralight frame

only 3 Kgs lighter than the yellow box, and unique to

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Tino
What parts would be required to turn an Evo into an Evo+?

Case assembly
Scrubber
Scrubber cartridge
Temp Stik

Anything else?

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jptaylor9

+ Diluent 1st stage to manifold hose

(from a spreadsheet AP e-mail me in response to enquiry)

JT

cramerdn

Interesting. I wonder why. Maybe the manifold gets moved to a weird new place.

I also wonder if the smaller scuber-lid-to-case-top clearance means the HUD cable will not route to the right loop hose as easily.

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