Advice Needed on Shortening Loop Hose

**Dsix36** · 22nd January 2008, 01:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by dragon25)

hi
i shortened my hoses, my advice is dont do it i have had to puchase new ones felt real good untill i turned my head

it is as eery one said angle of tee pieces and weights
cheers Adam

Have some green for owning up to a mistake! This helps others to not make the same mistake.

grahamsp · 22nd January 2008, 05:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by Rust Bucket)

Hi guys and girls,

[color=black]I was after some advice on shortening the loop hose between the T's to the mouth piece. I find the loop hose a little long and i notice i have to bite down and be mindful of the mouth piece so it does not pop out of my mouth. Has this been done and is it ok to do so? I was looking to shorten it by about 4-5cm on both sides.

I shortened the loop on my Evo by about 6 cms each side, removing the weights at the same time. Result has been a better fit, less pull out of the mouth and no problems turning my head from side to side. So I'd recommend it.

Graham

mik · 22nd January 2008, 10:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by grahamsp)

I shortened the loop on my Evo by about 6 cms each side, removing the weights at the same time. Result has been a better fit, less pull out of the mouth and no problems turning my head from side to side. So I'd recommend it.

Graham

Not everyone is built like a leprechaun though Graham!

I thought about shortening the hoses at first but was advised against it. I just moved the weights and tuned the T-pieces out. I also make sure that the T-pieces are actually at the top of the shoulder.

Rust Bucket · 22nd January 2008, 22:10

Thanks for all the advice guys. Graham have you left the weights off and if so what has this done?

Cheers

grahamsp · 23rd January 2008, 06:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by Rust Bucket)

Thanks for all the advice guys. Graham have you left the weights off and if so what has this done?

Cheers

Yes, the weights have stayed off. Because the hoses no longer floated up, they were redundant, so out they went. Haven't missed them. The end result has been a much tidier, compact setup. The only thing I have to watch out for is that the t-pieces are correctly angled to make sure the curve in the hose holds the mouthpiece in place. Finding that angle was a matter of trial and error; once I had it, I marked the connectors so that I can see straightaway whether or not all is as it should be.

Yours in leprechaunery,

Graham

**PhilSiswick** · 26th March 2008, 11:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by grahamsp)

I shortened the loop on my Evo by about 6 cms each side, removing the weights at the same time. Result has been a better fit, less pull out of the mouth and no problems turning my head from side to side. So I'd recommend it.

Graham

Hi Graham,

Did you notice any change in WOB (I know it's hard to detect, but who knows) or any other change from shortening the loop? I need to set about that for my wife, as the standard loop looks ridiculously long on her.

Cheers,

***Beanie*** · 26th March 2008, 14:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by grahamsp)

Yes, the weights have stayed off. Because the hoses no longer floated up, they were redundant, so out they went. Haven't missed them. The end result has been a much tidier, compact setup. The only thing I have to watch out for is that the t-pieces are correctly angled to make sure the curve in the hose holds the mouthpiece in place. Finding that angle was a matter of trial and error; once I had it, I marked the connectors so that I can see straightaway whether or not all is as it should be.

Yours in leprechaunery,

Graham

Hadn't thought about that
hmmm

grahamsp · 27th March 2008, 06:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick)

Hi Graham,

Did you notice any change in WOB (I know it's hard to detect, but who knows) or any other change from shortening the loop? I need to set about that for my wife, as the standard loop looks ridiculously long on her.

Cheers,

No, can't say I have. As comfortable after as before.

G

**PhilSiswick** · 27th March 2008, 06:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by grahamsp)

No, can't say I have. As comfortable after as before.

G

Many thanks indeed - looks like I'll have to buy some more hoses and cut them to length for her.

Cheers,

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22nd January 2008, 05:47	#12 (permalink)
grahamsp New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 112	Re: Advice Needed on Shortening Loop Hose Quote: (Originally Posted by Rust Bucket) Hi guys and girls, [color=black]I was after some advice on shortening the loop hose between the T's to the mouth piece. I find the loop hose a little long and i notice i have to bite down and be mindful of the mouth piece so it does not pop out of my mouth. Has this been done and is it ok to do so? I was looking to shorten it by about 4-5cm on both sides. I shortened the loop on my Evo by about 6 cms each side, removing the weights at the same time. Result has been a better fit, less pull out of the mouth and no problems turning my head from side to side. So I'd recommend it. Graham
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22nd January 2008, 10:31	#13 (permalink)
mik New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sydney North Posts: 63	Re: Advice Needed on Shortening Loop Hose Quote: (Originally Posted by grahamsp) I shortened the loop on my Evo by about 6 cms each side, removing the weights at the same time. Result has been a better fit, less pull out of the mouth and no problems turning my head from side to side. So I'd recommend it. Graham Not everyone is built like a leprechaun though Graham! I thought about shortening the hoses at first but was advised against it. I just moved the weights and tuned the T-pieces out. I also make sure that the T-pieces are actually at the top of the shoulder. __________________ It just fell apart in my hands, Chief!
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22nd January 2008, 22:10	#14 (permalink)
Rust Bucket New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 40	Re: Advice Needed on Shortening Loop Hose Thanks for all the advice guys. Graham have you left the weights off and if so what has this done? Cheers __________________ "The oceans breathed a life into me that I could have never conjured up on my own, and I will forever be in its debt. The secrets I have, were given to me because I went alone, and in the silence of myself I could hear them. It has been said that the only exploration of value is of ones self. If that is true, then I have had no better teacher in life than the ocean" - Carlos Eyles-
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23rd January 2008, 06:31	#15 (permalink)
grahamsp New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 112	Re: Advice Needed on Shortening Loop Hose Quote: (Originally Posted by Rust Bucket) Thanks for all the advice guys. Graham have you left the weights off and if so what has this done? Cheers Yes, the weights have stayed off. Because the hoses no longer floated up, they were redundant, so out they went. Haven't missed them. The end result has been a much tidier, compact setup. The only thing I have to watch out for is that the t-pieces are correctly angled to make sure the curve in the hose holds the mouthpiece in place. Finding that angle was a matter of trial and error; once I had it, I marked the connectors so that I can see straightaway whether or not all is as it should be. Yours in leprechaunery, Graham
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26th March 2008, 11:24	#16 (permalink)
PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 921	Re: Advice Needed on Shortening Loop Hose Quote: (Originally Posted by grahamsp) I shortened the loop on my Evo by about 6 cms each side, removing the weights at the same time. Result has been a better fit, less pull out of the mouth and no problems turning my head from side to side. So I'd recommend it. Graham Hi Graham, Did you notice any change in WOB (I know it's hard to detect, but who knows) or any other change from shortening the loop? I need to set about that for my wife, as the standard loop looks ridiculously long on her. Cheers, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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26th March 2008, 14:04	#17 (permalink)
*Beanie* Close to that red button Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,207	Re: Advice Needed on Shortening Loop Hose Quote: (Originally Posted by grahamsp) Yes, the weights have stayed off. Because the hoses no longer floated up, they were redundant, so out they went. Haven't missed them. The end result has been a much tidier, compact setup. The only thing I have to watch out for is that the t-pieces are correctly angled to make sure the curve in the hose holds the mouthpiece in place. Finding that angle was a matter of trial and error; once I had it, I marked the connectors so that I can see straightaway whether or not all is as it should be. Yours in leprechaunery, Graham Hadn't thought about that hmmm __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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27th March 2008, 06:08	#18 (permalink)
grahamsp New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 112	Re: Advice Needed on Shortening Loop Hose Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick) Hi Graham, Did you notice any change in WOB (I know it's hard to detect, but who knows) or any other change from shortening the loop? I need to set about that for my wife, as the standard loop looks ridiculously long on her. Cheers, No, can't say I have. As comfortable after as before. G
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27th March 2008, 06:50	#19 (permalink)
PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 921	Re: Advice Needed on Shortening Loop Hose Quote: (Originally Posted by grahamsp) No, can't say I have. As comfortable after as before. G Many thanks indeed - looks like I'll have to buy some more hoses and cut them to length for her. Cheers, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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