AP BOV and wireless WDC??

**jepuskar** · 17th January 2008, 02:58

The AP BOV is still on track for a 2nd Q release.

Also, I heard that AP is developing or looking into a wireless wrist WDC as an alternative to current system. Not sure if it's true or not, but getting rid of that WDC hose would be a good thing.

Has anyone heard this as well? I've bugged Nicky enough lately about other things, I'll save her from this..but if someone else wants to ask...

J

***Beanie*** · 17th January 2008, 07:39

might be thinking of the PDC they've been talking about basically a vision hand set with the control taken out of it ie deco.

Ben Field · 17th January 2008, 09:38

Argh- underwater wireless- Avoid Avoid! Anyone who's had a wireless tank transmitter will know these are horrible things, not even worth trusting with tank data let alone a rebreather display! Cables are good and stops the handset falling off into the abyss :-)

decoweenie · 17th January 2008, 10:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

...Anyone who's had a wireless tank transmitter will know these are horrible things, not even worth trusting with tank data let alone a rebreather display!...

Yes and no.

I have used terrible and unreliable wireless device (i.e. Cochran Nemesis) in the past - a long time ago though, circa 1990's.

But I also have had great experience with Suunto wireless (i.e. Vytec) for a few years - except it has a setting issue for Rebreather application. If shut off valve and drain pressure, can't resume connection if turn pressure back on while still u/w.

And also very reliable experience with Oceanic wireless (i.e. Atom-2) for the last year+.

Of course, I agree not a smart idea to rely on wireless as the ONLY and PRIMARY method for PO2 display. I believe APD device was to be used as a secondary display so the cabled primary could be tucked away neatly.

Brainx3 · 17th January 2008, 11:42

Hi,

I have been using my Oceanic Data Mask with the wireless transmitter om my inspiration and I usually do cold dives with bad visibility (About 2 degrees Celcius with about 1 - 3 meters visibility). So far, I never had any issues with that and at some points you would appreciate having the info you need in front of your eyes (literally)

. Although I have a micro-manometer attached to my first stage as secondary alternative.

Best Regards. Wael

**PhilSiswick** · 17th January 2008, 11:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by Brainx3)

Hi,

I have been using my Oceanic Data Mask with the wireless transmitter om my inspiration and I usually do cold dives with bad visibility (About 2 degrees Celcius with about 1 - 3 meters visibility). So far, I never had any issues with that and at some points you would appreciate having the info you need in front of your eyes (literally)

. Although I have a micro-manometer attached to my first stage as secondary alternative.

Best Regards. Wael

What information are you displaying in the Data Mask? Tank pressure and depth/time, or is there more?

Thanks,

Brainx3 · 17th January 2008, 11:55

Hi,

In the display, I get when using the Guage Mode:

Actual Depth
Tank Pressure
Remaining Air Time
Actual Time
Dive Time
Temperature

When I dive OC then the Mask is used as a complete computer with Nitrox capability. You can also set a fixed PO2 then it will give you a warning when the PO2 limit has been reached.

Best Regards. Wael

**PhilSiswick** · 17th January 2008, 12:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by Brainx3)

Hi,

In the display, I get when using the Guage Mode:

Actual Depth
Tank Pressure
Remaining Air Time
Actual Time
Dive Time
Temperature

When I dive OC then the Mask is used as a complete computer with Nitrox capability. You can also set a fixed PO2 then it will give you a warning when the PO2 limit has been reached.

Best Regards. Wael

Many thanks - I hadn't really worked out what it showed from a cursory read of the literature.

Remaining air time must be a truly huge number on CCR :-)

Cheers,

Brainx3 · 17th January 2008, 12:28

Hi Phil,

It's a very nice piece of equipment in my opinion even though it's still a bit expensive.

Best Regards. Wael

Mark Chase · 17th January 2008, 13:31

I have never had much luck with wireless conections of any sort. Id avoid it.

ATB

Mark

17th January 2008, 02:58	#1 (permalink)
jepuskar NA Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 397	AP BOV and wireless WDC?? The AP BOV is still on track for a 2nd Q release. Also, I heard that AP is developing or looking into a wireless wrist WDC as an alternative to current system. Not sure if it's true or not, but getting rid of that WDC hose would be a good thing. Has anyone heard this as well? I've bugged Nicky enough lately about other things, I'll save her from this..but if someone else wants to ask... J
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17th January 2008, 07:39	#2 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,312	Re: AP BOV and wireless WDC?? might be thinking of the PDC they've been talking about basically a vision hand set with the control taken out of it ie deco. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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17th January 2008, 09:38	#3 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,780	Re: AP BOV and wireless WDC?? Argh- underwater wireless- Avoid Avoid! Anyone who's had a wireless tank transmitter will know these are horrible things, not even worth trusting with tank data let alone a rebreather display! Cables are good and stops the handset falling off into the abyss :-) __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! www.hugsac.org.uk
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17th January 2008, 10:01	#4 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: AP BOV and wireless WDC?? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) ...Anyone who's had a wireless tank transmitter will know these are horrible things, not even worth trusting with tank data let alone a rebreather display!... Yes and no. I have used terrible and unreliable wireless device (i.e. Cochran Nemesis) in the past - a long time ago though, circa 1990's. But I also have had great experience with Suunto wireless (i.e. Vytec) for a few years - except it has a setting issue for Rebreather application. If shut off valve and drain pressure, can't resume connection if turn pressure back on while still u/w. And also very reliable experience with Oceanic wireless (i.e. Atom-2) for the last year+. Of course, I agree not a smart idea to rely on wireless as the ONLY and PRIMARY method for PO2 display. I believe APD device was to be used as a secondary display so the cabled primary could be tucked away neatly.
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17th January 2008, 11:42	#5 (permalink)
Brainx3 Totally Submerged Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: International Waters Posts: 312	Re: AP BOV and wireless WDC?? Hi, I have been using my Oceanic Data Mask with the wireless transmitter om my inspiration and I usually do cold dives with bad visibility (About 2 degrees Celcius with about 1 - 3 meters visibility). So far, I never had any issues with that and at some points you would appreciate having the info you need in front of your eyes (literally) . Although I have a micro-manometer attached to my first stage as secondary alternative. Best Regards. Wael __________________ The depth of life cannot be measured in Bars, nor can the sea of lies, that lies within. Sooner or later I'll be cracking your market and end your game. *I don't take crap for an answer...*
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17th January 2008, 11:45	#6 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,099	Re: AP BOV and wireless WDC?? Quote: (Originally Posted by Brainx3) Hi, I have been using my Oceanic Data Mask with the wireless transmitter om my inspiration and I usually do cold dives with bad visibility (About 2 degrees Celcius with about 1 - 3 meters visibility). So far, I never had any issues with that and at some points you would appreciate having the info you need in front of your eyes (literally) . Although I have a micro-manometer attached to my first stage as secondary alternative. Best Regards. Wael What information are you displaying in the Data Mask? Tank pressure and depth/time, or is there more? Thanks, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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17th January 2008, 11:55	#7 (permalink)
Brainx3 Totally Submerged Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: International Waters Posts: 312	Re: AP BOV and wireless WDC?? Hi, In the display, I get when using the Guage Mode: Actual Depth Tank Pressure Remaining Air Time Actual Time Dive Time Temperature When I dive OC then the Mask is used as a complete computer with Nitrox capability. You can also set a fixed PO2 then it will give you a warning when the PO2 limit has been reached. Best Regards. Wael __________________ The depth of life cannot be measured in Bars, nor can the sea of lies, that lies within. Sooner or later I'll be cracking your market and end your game. *I don't take crap for an answer...*
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17th January 2008, 12:24	#8 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,099	Re: AP BOV and wireless WDC?? Quote: (Originally Posted by Brainx3) Hi, In the display, I get when using the Guage Mode: Actual Depth Tank Pressure Remaining Air Time Actual Time Dive Time Temperature When I dive OC then the Mask is used as a complete computer with Nitrox capability. You can also set a fixed PO2 then it will give you a warning when the PO2 limit has been reached. Best Regards. Wael Many thanks - I hadn't really worked out what it showed from a cursory read of the literature. Remaining air time must be a truly huge number on CCR :-) Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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17th January 2008, 12:28	#9 (permalink)
Brainx3 Totally Submerged Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: International Waters Posts: 312	Re: AP BOV and wireless WDC?? Hi Phil, It's a very nice piece of equipment in my opinion even though it's still a bit expensive. Best Regards. Wael __________________ The depth of life cannot be measured in Bars, nor can the sea of lies, that lies within. Sooner or later I'll be cracking your market and end your game. *I don't take crap for an answer...*
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17th January 2008, 13:31	#10 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,867	Re: AP BOV and wireless WDC?? I have never had much luck with wireless conections of any sort. Id avoid it. ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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