Inspo Harness Question

MGC · 10th January 2008, 09:59

Hi All,
I have aquired a S/H Inspo Classic, fully standard and I will be doing Mod1 with the unit standard, however I have looked at many threads and posts, in which people state they don't like the original harness, but no one seams to actually specifiy why - just general comments that its "pants" etc.
I can see Problems with it (in my opinion), too many long dangly bits, D rings inaccessible under counter lungs to name but 2 and I will most likely change it to a back plate and simpler harness in the near future.
If any one would like to give me specific reasons they don't like the original AP harness I would be most grateful to hear your views.

Cheers.

Mark Chase · 10th January 2008, 10:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by MGC)

Hi All,
I have aquired a S/H Inspo Classic, fully standard and I will be doing Mod1 with the unit standard, however I have looked at many threads and posts, in which people state they don't like the original harness, but no one seams to actually specifiy why - just general comments that its "pants" etc.
I can see Problems with it (in my opinion), too many long dangly bits, D rings inaccessible under counter lungs to name but 2 and I will most likely change it to a back plate and simpler harness in the near future.
If any one would like to give me specific reasons they don't like the original AP harness I would be most grateful to hear your views.

Cheers.

The D rings are in the wrong place and they fold flat under the harness making stage drills very difficult (IMHO).

I had a medium harness and despite my 44" chest and 15stone gut i couldn't get the damed thing tight enough to stop the unit wobbling about.

I found getting into the standard rig awkward and i didn't like all the dangly bits you pulled down to adjust the harness.

ATB

Mark

**nigelh** · 10th January 2008, 10:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by MGC)

If any one would like to give me specific reasons they don't like the original AP harness I would be most grateful to hear your views.

I like the standard harness.
I like the way I can snug it up so nothing moves without anything elastic involved.
It was not designed by idiots as many will try to imply, although the D-rings in the small of my back do perplex me.

G.O · 10th January 2008, 12:27

I have tried a few different configurations and have come back to the standard harness,still tweaking but pretty happy now.
G

toe · 10th January 2008, 12:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by G.O)

I have tried a few different configurations and have come back to the standard harness,still tweaking but pretty happy now.
G

What tweaking have you done?

I fitted a back plate last night. Back to the oc days. Not sure I like it and am having second thoughts. The unit sits very far back and I have no room for another hole on back plate. Using DSS pro fit harness.

Tony

**PhilSiswick** · 10th January 2008, 13:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

The D rings are in the wrong place and they fold flat under the harness making stage drills very difficult (IMHO).

I had a medium harness and despite my 44" chest and 15stone gut i couldn't get the damed thing tight enough to stop the unit wobbling about.

I found getting into the standard rig awkward and i didn't like all the dangly bits you pulled down to adjust the harness.

ATB

Mark

Those were my experiences too, but then I didn't like stab jackets or my Transpac II harness either for the same reasons. YMMV - wait to see how it goes on Mod 1. Changing over to a backplate/harness combination is no great task anyway.

Enjoy Mod 1.

Cheers,

cramerdn · 10th January 2008, 13:54

I was unhappy with the fit and large anounts of trailing straps after you snug stuff up.

I also did not like the idea of the D rings sticking out of the wing. Its probably some DIR cobweb in my brain but I did'nt like the idea of an entaglement point, the D ring, attached to my primary bouyancy and therefore a real issue if it had to be cut away.

The harness has been replaced with a backplate but I am still tinkering with the counterlung hold downs.

Ferg3333 · 11th January 2008, 02:23

My only problem with the entire buddy set up is the d rings on the upper chest I cannot for the life of me thing of a more awkward place they could be.

Anyone used bungy to make them stick out all the time?

G.O · 11th January 2008, 14:06

I HAVE GONE FROM A STANDARD UNIT , TRIED A B/PLATE AND HARNESS, THEN BACK TO THE STANDARD UNIT. FROM THERE I WENT TO AN aLIBOX WHICH I PERSONALLY THINK IS GREAT, BUT HAVING CHANGED THE WING FOR MY OMS AND IQ HARNESS, I HAD PROBLEMS WITH MY STAGE CONFIGURATION, SO I'M USING MY OMS WITH THE STANDARD HARNESS, AND SOME ADDED BILLY RINGS (ATTACHED TO THE aLIBOX.
I

F ANYONE HAS PROBLEMS WITH THE COUNTERLUNG D RINGS YOU CAN GET UNDERCOUNTERLUNG D RINGS WHICH PERMINENTLY STICK OUT, I HAVE SOME AND TRIED THEM, BUT AM NOW BACK TO THE STANDARD HARNESS AND AM HAPPY WITH IT. BUT THE TWEAKING GOES ON.
G

SteveJ · 11th January 2008, 14:20

Congrats on getting your Inspo Classic!

Who are you doing your Mod 1 with?

Let me know if you want to show it off to someone who can appreciate the finer things in life.

Steve

10th January 2008, 09:59	#1 (permalink)
MGC RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Nr Whitby Posts: 30	Inspo Harness Question Hi All, I have aquired a S/H Inspo Classic, fully standard and I will be doing Mod1 with the unit standard, however I have looked at many threads and posts, in which people state they don't like the original harness, but no one seams to actually specifiy why - just general comments that its "pants" etc. I can see Problems with it (in my opinion), too many long dangly bits, D rings inaccessible under counter lungs to name but 2 and I will most likely change it to a back plate and simpler harness in the near future. If any one would like to give me specific reasons they don't like the original AP harness I would be most grateful to hear your views. Cheers. __________________ Life is way tooo short
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10th January 2008, 10:14	#2 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,867	Re: Inspo Harness Question Quote: (Originally Posted by MGC) Hi All, I have aquired a S/H Inspo Classic, fully standard and I will be doing Mod1 with the unit standard, however I have looked at many threads and posts, in which people state they don't like the original harness, but no one seams to actually specifiy why - just general comments that its "pants" etc. I can see Problems with it (in my opinion), too many long dangly bits, D rings inaccessible under counter lungs to name but 2 and I will most likely change it to a back plate and simpler harness in the near future. If any one would like to give me specific reasons they don't like the original AP harness I would be most grateful to hear your views. Cheers. The D rings are in the wrong place and they fold flat under the harness making stage drills very difficult (IMHO). I had a medium harness and despite my 44" chest and 15stone gut i couldn't get the damed thing tight enough to stop the unit wobbling about. I found getting into the standard rig awkward and i didn't like all the dangly bits you pulled down to adjust the harness. ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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10th January 2008, 10:48	#3 (permalink)
nigelh New member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 883	Re: Inspo Harness Question Quote: (Originally Posted by MGC) If any one would like to give me specific reasons they don't like the original AP harness I would be most grateful to hear your views. I like the standard harness. I like the way I can snug it up so nothing moves without anything elastic involved. It was not designed by idiots as many will try to imply, although the D-rings in the small of my back do perplex me. __________________ nigelh
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10th January 2008, 12:27	#4 (permalink)
G.O New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: yorkshire Posts: 12	Re: Inspo Harness Question I have tried a few different configurations and have come back to the standard harness,still tweaking but pretty happy now. G
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10th January 2008, 12:52	#5 (permalink)
toe RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ireland Posts: 88	Re: Inspo Harness Question Quote: (Originally Posted by G.O) I have tried a few different configurations and have come back to the standard harness,still tweaking but pretty happy now. G What tweaking have you done? I fitted a back plate last night. Back to the oc days. Not sure I like it and am having second thoughts. The unit sits very far back and I have no room for another hole on back plate. Using DSS pro fit harness. Tony
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10th January 2008, 13:04	#6 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,099	Re: Inspo Harness Question Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) The D rings are in the wrong place and they fold flat under the harness making stage drills very difficult (IMHO). I had a medium harness and despite my 44" chest and 15stone gut i couldn't get the damed thing tight enough to stop the unit wobbling about. I found getting into the standard rig awkward and i didn't like all the dangly bits you pulled down to adjust the harness. ATB Mark Those were my experiences too, but then I didn't like stab jackets or my Transpac II harness either for the same reasons. YMMV - wait to see how it goes on Mod 1. Changing over to a backplate/harness combination is no great task anyway. Enjoy Mod 1. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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10th January 2008, 13:54	#7 (permalink)
cramerdn Obey my dog! Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Townsville QLD Posts: 738	Re: Inspo Harness Question I was unhappy with the fit and large anounts of trailing straps after you snug stuff up. I also did not like the idea of the D rings sticking out of the wing. Its probably some DIR cobweb in my brain but I did'nt like the idea of an entaglement point, the D ring, attached to my primary bouyancy and therefore a real issue if it had to be cut away. The harness has been replaced with a backplate but I am still tinkering with the counterlung hold downs. __________________ "Its better to live one day as a tiger than an entire life as a worm." "But who's ever heard of a worm skin rug?"
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11th January 2008, 02:23	#8 (permalink)
Ferg3333 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blackpool Posts: 156	Re: Inspo Harness Question My only problem with the entire buddy set up is the d rings on the upper chest I cannot for the life of me thing of a more awkward place they could be. Anyone used bungy to make them stick out all the time?
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11th January 2008, 14:06	#9 (permalink)
G.O New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: yorkshire Posts: 12	Re: Inspo Harness Question I HAVE GONE FROM A STANDARD UNIT , TRIED A B/PLATE AND HARNESS, THEN BACK TO THE STANDARD UNIT. FROM THERE I WENT TO AN aLIBOX WHICH I PERSONALLY THINK IS GREAT, BUT HAVING CHANGED THE WING FOR MY OMS AND IQ HARNESS, I HAD PROBLEMS WITH MY STAGE CONFIGURATION, SO I'M USING MY OMS WITH THE STANDARD HARNESS, AND SOME ADDED BILLY RINGS (ATTACHED TO THE aLIBOX. IF ANYONE HAS PROBLEMS WITH THE COUNTERLUNG D RINGS YOU CAN GET UNDERCOUNTERLUNG D RINGS WHICH PERMINENTLY STICK OUT, I HAVE SOME AND TRIED THEM, BUT AM NOW BACK TO THE STANDARD HARNESS AND AM HAPPY WITH IT. BUT THE TWEAKING GOES ON. G
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11th January 2008, 14:20	#10 (permalink)
SteveJ RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Whitby Posts: 139	Re: Inspo Harness Question Congrats on getting your Inspo Classic! Who are you doing your Mod 1 with? Let me know if you want to show it off to someone who can appreciate the finer things in life. Steve
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