Rate my rebreather!

spunkmire · 11th November 2007, 20:23

Hello,
this is a sort of introduction to RBWorld,
just to demonstrate my unit and get some comments,
I got a 3rd hand Inspiration Classic with an alibox and CD backplate
earlier this year and have sweated blood putting it all together

I am doing the course on 7th December in Plymouth and do not want to turn up with a unit that self-destructs on contact with water!
To get the counterlungs fit I have already had to cut new holes in the flap :$

Please have a look at the photos at any comments will be very welcome,
Will

FWIW the Alibox is very sturdy and routes the hoses well

Mixaddict · 11th November 2007, 22:39

Hi there,

Just wondering why you have chosen to use a backplate when you have the ali box? I just bought a box from Michael and he claims that he has no idea why people would use a back plate in addition to the box, since the box is already so sturdy. Just a thought.

Enjoy the Inspiration. I think you will like it.

Regards,
Randy

Mark Chase · 11th November 2007, 23:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict)

Hi there,

Just wondering why you have chosen to use a backplate when you have the ali box? I just bought a box from Michael and he claims that he has no idea why people would use a back plate in addition to the box, since the box is already so sturdy. Just a thought.

Enjoy the Inspiration. I think you will like it.

Regards,
Randy

How do you mount the webbing harnes if you dont use a BP?

ATB

Mark

Mark Chase · 11th November 2007, 23:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by spunkmire)

Please have a look at the photos at any comments will be very welcome,
Will

FWIW the Alibox is very sturdy and routes the hoses well

Check that the wing when fully inflated doesn't push the loop hoses up too much. Sounds silly but put it all on and the loop in your mouth then stand in front of a mirror and check it.

If the clips were behind the top of the back plate theres something wrong with the position of the plate. The back of the harness is standard and its just been cut to add the quick release clips. The top of the BP should come to the top of your spine level with the sholder blades. The Clips should be resting on top of your shoulders. If they were behind the plate the counter lungs would be too far back over the shoulder.

I couldn't find a better pic than this one to show the location of the T piece when its in the right position. It will be almost vertical on the top of the shoulder.

ATB

Mark

diverklondike · 12th November 2007, 00:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict)

Hi there,

Just wondering why you have chosen to use a backplate when you have the ali box? I just bought a box from Michael and he claims that he has no idea why people would use a back plate in addition to the box, since the box is already so sturdy. Just a thought.

Enjoy the Inspiration. I think you will like it.

Regards,
Randy

I always use a blackplate with my Alibox....

Mixaddict · 12th November 2007, 01:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

How do you mount the webbing harnes if you dont use a BP?

ATB

Mark

The ali box has slits cut in it for the webbing. If you are using a backplate as well, you are bascially using two backplates. Mind you, I haven't actually dived mine yet, but this is what Michael Hearn explained to me when I picked up my box from him one week ago.

decoweenie · 12th November 2007, 04:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict)

The ali box has slits cut in it for the webbing...

How would you place the wing between the Alibox and yourself if you were to thread webbing directly to the box ?

***caveseeker7*** · 12th November 2007, 07:18

Use a Zeagle wing with the two straps across?

Mark Chase · 12th November 2007, 08:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict)

The ali box has slits cut in it for the webbing. If you are using a backplate as well, you are bascially using two backplates. Mind you, I haven't actually dived mine yet, but this is what Michael Hearn explained to me when I picked up my box from him one week ago.

Once you get this rigged up some photos would be good. None of my wings would accommodate such rigging so it would be interesting to see yours.

ATB

Mark

Mark Chase · 12th November 2007, 08:46

Will there is something odd in the last photo?

I can see part of the webbing for the counter lungs sticking out over the top of the harness and comfort pad?

Why is that?

The webbing for the counter lungs should be behind the back plate. There are a couple of holes for locating its position. The hole thats showing flapped over the BP looks to be the one that should be located on the top bolt.

Were you trying to line the Counter lungs up with the bottom bolt hole?

Thats not going to work on some BPs

ATB

Mark

11th November 2007, 22:39	#2 (permalink)
Mixaddict RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 524	Re: Rate my rebreather! Hi there, Just wondering why you have chosen to use a backplate when you have the ali box? I just bought a box from Michael and he claims that he has no idea why people would use a back plate in addition to the box, since the box is already so sturdy. Just a thought. Enjoy the Inspiration. I think you will like it. Regards, Randy __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution, Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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11th November 2007, 23:08	#3 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,867	Re: Rate my rebreather! Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict) Hi there, Just wondering why you have chosen to use a backplate when you have the ali box? I just bought a box from Michael and he claims that he has no idea why people would use a back plate in addition to the box, since the box is already so sturdy. Just a thought. Enjoy the Inspiration. I think you will like it. Regards, Randy How do you mount the webbing harnes if you dont use a BP? ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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11th November 2007, 23:24	#4 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,867	Re: Rate my rebreather! Quote: (Originally Posted by spunkmire) Please have a look at the photos at any comments will be very welcome, Will FWIW the Alibox is very sturdy and routes the hoses well Check that the wing when fully inflated doesn't push the loop hoses up too much. Sounds silly but put it all on and the loop in your mouth then stand in front of a mirror and check it. If the clips were behind the top of the back plate theres something wrong with the position of the plate. The back of the harness is standard and its just been cut to add the quick release clips. The top of the BP should come to the top of your spine level with the sholder blades. The Clips should be resting on top of your shoulders. If they were behind the plate the counter lungs would be too far back over the shoulder. I couldn't find a better pic than this one to show the location of the T piece when its in the right position. It will be almost vertical on the top of the shoulder. ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote] Last edited by Mark Chase : 12th November 2007 at 00:30.
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12th November 2007, 00:16	#5 (permalink)
diverklondike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,714	Re: Rate my rebreather! Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict) Hi there, Just wondering why you have chosen to use a backplate when you have the ali box? I just bought a box from Michael and he claims that he has no idea why people would use a back plate in addition to the box, since the box is already so sturdy. Just a thought. Enjoy the Inspiration. I think you will like it. Regards, Randy I always use a blackplate with my Alibox....
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12th November 2007, 01:31	#6 (permalink)
Mixaddict RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 524	Re: Rate my rebreather! Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) How do you mount the webbing harnes if you dont use a BP? ATB Mark The ali box has slits cut in it for the webbing. If you are using a backplate as well, you are bascially using two backplates. Mind you, I haven't actually dived mine yet, but this is what Michael Hearn explained to me when I picked up my box from him one week ago. __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution, Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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12th November 2007, 04:37	#7 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Rate my rebreather! Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict) The ali box has slits cut in it for the webbing... How would you place the wing between the Alibox and yourself if you were to thread webbing directly to the box ?
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12th November 2007, 07:18	#8 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,560	Re: Use a Zeagle wing with the two straps across? __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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12th November 2007, 08:37	#9 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,867	Re: Rate my rebreather! Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict) The ali box has slits cut in it for the webbing. If you are using a backplate as well, you are bascially using two backplates. Mind you, I haven't actually dived mine yet, but this is what Michael Hearn explained to me when I picked up my box from him one week ago. Once you get this rigged up some photos would be good. None of my wings would accommodate such rigging so it would be interesting to see yours. ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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12th November 2007, 08:46	#10 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,867	Re: Rate my rebreather! Will there is something odd in the last photo? I can see part of the webbing for the counter lungs sticking out over the top of the harness and comfort pad? Why is that? The webbing for the counter lungs should be behind the back plate. There are a couple of holes for locating its position. The hole thats showing flapped over the BP looks to be the one that should be located on the top bolt. Were you trying to line the Counter lungs up with the bottom bolt hole? Thats not going to work on some BPs ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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