New AP Bov

decoweenie · 18th October 2007, 12:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by StuH)

By the way is anyone out there using the Golem setup with an Evolution?

Yes, and it is a brilliant BOV.

I use the same Golem BOV set-up with the Insp-Vision and Meg as well. You could change the flow direction in seconds by simply flipping the diaphragm holders.

One of the things you have to remember is BOV tends to be heavier than a standard DSV due to the added weight of the material, plus the inner of the second stage. It also enlarges the overall size.

What all those mean is diving in current or scootering, you will need some sort of chin rest to keep having to bit hard on the mouth piece.

By having a second stage on the bottom allows you to add a chin rest easily, it took me 2 minutes to build a chin rest for the Golem BOV. And on bottom means the current won't be pushing against the purge button area as well - which is important when you have a fast scooter...

StuH · 18th October 2007, 13:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Yes, and it is a brilliant BOV.

I use the same Golem BOV set-up with the Insp-Vision and Meg as well. You could change the flow direction in seconds by simply flipping the diaphragm holders.

One of the things you have to remember is BOV tends to be heavier than a standard DSV due to the added weight of the material, plus the inner of the second stage. It also enlarges the overall size.

What all those mean is diving in current or scootering, you will need some sort of chin rest to keep having to bit hard on the mouth piece.

By having a second stage on the bottom allows you to add a chin rest easily, it took me 2 minutes to build a chin rest for the Golem BOV. And on bottom means the current won't be pushing against the purge button area as well - which is important when you have a fast scooter...

Thanks for the reply.

I am assuming that using the Golem BOV together with the FFM will relieve some of the weight on the jaw, although I do understand that there is a bite piece inside the FFM.

In light of what you said regards the positioning of the second stage on the bottom of the Golem BOV, what are the advantages of having the second stage on the front as per the AP BOV? Is it just for keeping size/profile down?

Many thanks

Stu

dave t · 18th October 2007, 14:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

I can hear that quiet!

Not the connector on the second stage, by the way, the small screw on top of the BOV body.

Its there to hold the spring and ballbearing in the "indent" to make the switching positions a positive fix. It wont be there in the production model, I think its so they can play with different tensions to get the switching feel right

Dave

lof · 18th October 2007, 15:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by StuH)

Thanks for the reply.

I am assuming that using the Golem BOV together with the FFM will relieve some of the weight on the jaw, although I do understand that there is a bite piece inside the FFM.

Stu

The Bite piece in the Drager FFM is not really load bearing, you can spit it out without feeling any added weight. The strap harness opn the FFM supports the BOV nicely, you do not feel anyweight, only the profile is little larger than with standard bite piece.

Folks at OTS made a really compact comm system for us.

and

more info here
Golem Gear, Inc. - Buddy Phone for FFM

And we have even cooler comm stuff comming out at DEMA

come see us.

18th October 2007, 12:48	#31 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: New AP Bov Quote: (Originally Posted by StuH) By the way is anyone out there using the Golem setup with an Evolution? Yes, and it is a brilliant BOV. I use the same Golem BOV set-up with the Insp-Vision and Meg as well. You could change the flow direction in seconds by simply flipping the diaphragm holders. One of the things you have to remember is BOV tends to be heavier than a standard DSV due to the added weight of the material, plus the inner of the second stage. It also enlarges the overall size. What all those mean is diving in current or scootering, you will need some sort of chin rest to keep having to bit hard on the mouth piece. By having a second stage on the bottom allows you to add a chin rest easily, it took me 2 minutes to build a chin rest for the Golem BOV. And on bottom means the current won't be pushing against the purge button area as well - which is important when you have a fast scooter...
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18th October 2007, 13:15	#32 (permalink)
StuH New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sunshine Coast Posts: 16	Re: New AP Bov Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Yes, and it is a brilliant BOV. I use the same Golem BOV set-up with the Insp-Vision and Meg as well. You could change the flow direction in seconds by simply flipping the diaphragm holders. One of the things you have to remember is BOV tends to be heavier than a standard DSV due to the added weight of the material, plus the inner of the second stage. It also enlarges the overall size. What all those mean is diving in current or scootering, you will need some sort of chin rest to keep having to bit hard on the mouth piece. By having a second stage on the bottom allows you to add a chin rest easily, it took me 2 minutes to build a chin rest for the Golem BOV. And on bottom means the current won't be pushing against the purge button area as well - which is important when you have a fast scooter... Thanks for the reply. I am assuming that using the Golem BOV together with the FFM will relieve some of the weight on the jaw, although I do understand that there is a bite piece inside the FFM. In light of what you said regards the positioning of the second stage on the bottom of the Golem BOV, what are the advantages of having the second stage on the front as per the AP BOV? Is it just for keeping size/profile down? Many thanks Stu
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18th October 2007, 14:13	#33 (permalink)
dave t RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Ray Azimuth Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 674	Re: New AP Bov Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) I can hear that quiet! Not the connector on the second stage, by the way, the small screw on top of the BOV body. Its there to hold the spring and ballbearing in the "indent" to make the switching positions a positive fix. It wont be there in the production model, I think its so they can play with different tensions to get the switching feel right Dave
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18th October 2007, 15:07	#34 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 502	Re: New AP Bov Quote: (Originally Posted by StuH) Thanks for the reply. I am assuming that using the Golem BOV together with the FFM will relieve some of the weight on the jaw, although I do understand that there is a bite piece inside the FFM. Stu The Bite piece in the Drager FFM is not really load bearing, you can spit it out without feeling any added weight. The strap harness opn the FFM supports the BOV nicely, you do not feel anyweight, only the profile is little larger than with standard bite piece. Folks at OTS made a really compact comm system for us. and more info here Golem Gear, Inc. - Buddy Phone for FFM And we have even cooler comm stuff comming out at DEMA come see us. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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