"Secondary" display for Vision units

evosale · 9th October 2007, 16:16

the Faranel T-Piece is to thick for the classic cap.
This is better:
www. rsonline.de partnumber 193-8906

Stephane · 9th October 2007, 16:21

Nor the part number you give or the one I gave lead to a valid article for UK RS customers.

Best thing to do for Beanie is to ask RS UK to get the connector from France or Germany.

evosale · 9th October 2007, 17:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Not had a controller fail but if the inputs are buffered they should be fine.

Still can't find these Ts though

Looking on RS Components - The UK's leading industrial supplier to business, Free delivery, Free technical information and Farnell / Electronic Component Distributors / Suppliers / Electronics, Electrical Parts, Electrical Components and Wholesale Electronics. but no luck

Order Code for UK 4194573

gerstl_ossi · 9th October 2007, 21:56

Hi, have a home build and I had problem on the electronic (they did not care my breather as glass on the aircraft transport

). So I disabled the controller and dived the unit for 2 weeks on a live board as mCCR. I have a Kiss system as bailout (see pic) with a constant flow of 0,7 Lt. on a sealed 1 stage Mares MR12. Monitoring with a homemade HUD(like shearwater) and 1 VR3. Works perfect and was a intensive test for the bailout system. Was a nice trip and nice diving.

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

We are talking about 2 separate and different things:

You are talking about having the controller issue while diving, bailing out and going back with a known malfunction controller with 1 additional cell.
I am talking about removing the batteries from the malfunction controller to disable it, then diving the unit for the rest of the trip as mCCR.

Also, your scenario about dealing with the Vision problem doesn't work from personal experience of others who have PM'ed me. Just FYI...

rusty · 9th October 2007, 22:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Why not ?

It should be similar to using a switch box...

Does anyone know if APD gets upset if the lid is sent back with the 4th-cell adapter still connected ?

If not, then an y-cable could be one of the easiest way for remoavble before sending back to APD - not that a switchbox is difficult either.

Phi,

I have been lagging on posting the setup that Bruce at Shearwater did for me using Johns 4th cell adaptor and some of the AP connectors I bought from John. Bascially I had him hardwire in three of the AP connectors so if my vision died in the middle of nowhere I could plug into two of the vision cells and fly her manually with the Vision completely disabled. I have used it several times and it works fine, what I have been working on is figuring out a way to piggyback into two of the other cells so I have 3 seperate PO2s in addition to the vision and one of them would be the independent 4th cell. Does anyone know if having the cells piggybacked will have an effect on milli volt readings or cause any heartache when calibrating?

I have a customer of ours who claims to have a solution for piggybacking the cells but have not seen the promised product yet.

I was diving recently with some of the AP guys and they said to remove the 4th cell adaptor before sending it back to the UK as they would not appreciate the setup at all.

wizbang · 10th October 2007, 01:53

I would be interested in 4 to 10 if there was an order being placed.

narked at 90 · 10th October 2007, 02:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick)

Someone (Lord M I think) posted a week or so ago that he'd taken his head back to APD for a check over. They'd commented positively on the design and modularity of the Narked@90 holder he had fitted.

So, I'd say, probably not.....

Cheers,

wow thats some thing i didn't expect to hear!
but at the end of the day there unit is CE'ed as a complete system so any changes with upset them, even it some of them think it's a good change!
kind regards john

narked at 90 · 10th October 2007, 02:53

RS components is Min's away from me and i have a very very good relation ship with them but i very much doubt they will get this t-piece in for you, they are a massive company that deals in 1000's but i will enquire if people want them,
kind regards john routley

evosale · 10th October 2007, 05:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by narked at 90)

RS components is Min's away from me and i have a very very good relation ship with them but i very much doubt they will get this t-piece in for you, they are a massive company that deals in 1000's but i will enquire if people want them,
kind regards john routley

No problem is to be ordered with rsonline.de some few parts. They dispatch also to England without problems. The dispatch costs approx. 20-25 euros.

evosale · 10th October 2007, 09:30

the diameter of the hole is 4,5mm and the best high 7mm.

9th October 2007, 16:16	#31 (permalink)
evosale New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 13	Re: "Secondary" display for Vision units the Faranel T-Piece is to thick for the classic cap. This is better: www. rsonline.de partnumber 193-8906
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9th October 2007, 16:21	#32 (permalink)
Stephane Stéphane Acounis Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nantes - France Posts: 788	Re: "Secondary" display for Vision units Nor the part number you give or the one I gave lead to a valid article for UK RS customers. Best thing to do for Beanie is to ask RS UK to get the connector from France or Germany. __________________ Stéphane
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9th October 2007, 17:46	#33 (permalink)
evosale New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 13	Re: "Secondary" display for Vision units Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Not had a controller fail but if the inputs are buffered they should be fine. Still can't find these Ts though Looking on RS Components - The UK's leading industrial supplier to business, Free delivery, Free technical information and Farnell / Electronic Component Distributors / Suppliers / Electronics, Electrical Parts, Electrical Components and Wholesale Electronics. but no luck Order Code for UK 4194573 Last edited by evosale : 10th October 2007 at 09:36.
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9th October 2007, 21:56	#34 (permalink)
gerstl_ossi RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet RB80 / Clone Home Build Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 345	Re: "Secondary" display for Vision units Hi, have a home build and I had problem on the electronic (they did not care my breather as glass on the aircraft transport). So I disabled the controller and dived the unit for 2 weeks on a live board as mCCR. I have a Kiss system as bailout (see pic) with a constant flow of 0,7 Lt. on a sealed 1 stage Mares MR12. Monitoring with a homemade HUD(like shearwater) and 1 VR3. Works perfect and was a intensive test for the bailout system. Was a nice trip and nice diving. Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) We are talking about 2 separate and different things: You are talking about having the controller issue while diving, bailing out and going back with a known malfunction controller with 1 additional cell. I am talking about removing the batteries from the malfunction controller to disable it, then diving the unit for the rest of the trip as mCCR. Also, your scenario about dealing with the Vision problem doesn't work from personal experience of others who have PM'ed me. Just FYI... Last edited by gerstl_ossi : 9th October 2007 at 22:39.
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9th October 2007, 22:49	#35 (permalink)
rusty RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Ouroboros rEvo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA,Monterey,CA Posts: 178	Re: "Secondary" display for Vision units Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Why not ? It should be similar to using a switch box... Does anyone know if APD gets upset if the lid is sent back with the 4th-cell adapter still connected ? If not, then an y-cable could be one of the easiest way for remoavble before sending back to APD - not that a switchbox is difficult either. Phi, I have been lagging on posting the setup that Bruce at Shearwater did for me using Johns 4th cell adaptor and some of the AP connectors I bought from John. Bascially I had him hardwire in three of the AP connectors so if my vision died in the middle of nowhere I could plug into two of the vision cells and fly her manually with the Vision completely disabled. I have used it several times and it works fine, what I have been working on is figuring out a way to piggyback into two of the other cells so I have 3 seperate PO2s in addition to the vision and one of them would be the independent 4th cell. Does anyone know if having the cells piggybacked will have an effect on milli volt readings or cause any heartache when calibrating? I have a customer of ours who claims to have a solution for piggybacking the cells but have not seen the promised product yet. I was diving recently with some of the AP guys and they said to remove the 4th cell adaptor before sending it back to the UK as they would not appreciate the setup at all. __________________ Best Regards, Russ Sanoian U/W Sales 831-645-1082 www.backscatter.com Breaching the Boundaries of the Abyss With Underwater Imaging Innovations Last edited by rusty : 10th October 2007 at 00:42.
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10th October 2007, 01:53	#36 (permalink)
wizbang WEB MERMEN Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Vision Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 386	Re: "Secondary" display for Vision units I would be interested in 4 to 10 if there was an order being placed.
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10th October 2007, 02:45	#37 (permalink)
narked at 90 John Routley Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,077	Re: "Secondary" display for Vision units Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick) Someone (Lord M I think) posted a week or so ago that he'd taken his head back to APD for a check over. They'd commented positively on the design and modularity of the Narked@90 holder he had fitted. So, I'd say, probably not..... Cheers, wow thats some thing i didn't expect to hear! but at the end of the day there unit is CE'ed as a complete system so any changes with upset them, even it some of them think it's a good change! kind regards john __________________ *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Narked at 90 Go Military
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narked at 90 John Routley Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,077	Re: "Secondary" display for Vision units RS components is Min's away from me and i have a very very good relation ship with them but i very much doubt they will get this t-piece in for you, they are a massive company that deals in 1000's but i will enquire if people want them, kind regards john routley __________________ *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Narked at 90 Go Military
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10th October 2007, 05:46	#39 (permalink)
evosale New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Europe Posts: 13	Re: "Secondary" display for Vision units Quote: (Originally Posted by narked at 90) RS components is Min's away from me and i have a very very good relation ship with them but i very much doubt they will get this t-piece in for you, they are a massive company that deals in 1000's but i will enquire if people want them, kind regards john routley No problem is to be ordered with rsonline.de some few parts. They dispatch also to England without problems. The dispatch costs approx. 20-25 euros.
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