Solonoid Stuck

Grahjam · 30th September 2007, 21:59

Hi all

After a bit of experience from you people on in the field repairs etc. Been CC for nearly a year now, (why did n't I do it earlier) anyhow on the MOD 1 course and while doing doing general diving i practice, as am sure lots of you do, solonoid stuck open or closed drills.

My question is, If this happens for real and all being well the second nature skills get you back to the boat to moan about the issue, what next??? Can the problem be sorted, checked or otherwise in the field or is it a return to APD issue and dive OC for the remianing dives??

Cheers

GMC

chunter · 30th September 2007, 23:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by Grahjam)

Hi all

After a bit of experience from you people on in the field repairs etc. Been CC for nearly a year now, (why did n't I do it earlier) anyhow on the MOD 1 course and while doing doing general diving i practice, as am sure lots of you do, solonoid stuck open or closed drills.

My question is, If this happens for real and all being well the second nature skills get you back to the boat to moan about the issue, what next??? Can the problem be sorted, checked or otherwise in the field or is it a return to APD issue and dive OC for the remianing dives??

Cheers

GMC

It really depends on why the solenoid failed. It may be a matter or reconnecting a wire, or there could be bigger problems. The entire soleniod can be fairly easily replaced, and a lot of people carry one as a spare.

ALoha,
Charlie

Mixaddict · 1st October 2007, 02:43

I have only had an Inspo solonoid stick open on me one time, and that was at 330 feet. Of course, it got my attention very quickly! Nothing like seeing your PO2 shoot sky high at that depth! I shut my O2 off, breathed it down quite a ways, opened it back up, shut it down again, etc. etc. After about 6 cycles, the solonoid started working, and have not had any problems with it since. That was about 1 1/2 years ago. I suspect, that I got a grain of sand or something stuck in it, and it just needed to work itself out.

Those training exercises come in handy. I didn't find "feathering" the valve, all that difficult, but it certainly held my attention! Had I had ongoing problems with it, I would have sent it in for repairs, but fortunately, it has not repeated itself.

jhaaja · 1st October 2007, 06:55

The solenoid is also really easy to open and clean and lube if needed.

duffmiver · 1st October 2007, 07:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter)

and a lot of people carry one as a spare.

I have a new solenoid that is in my spares box. I won't be needing it, you can have it for free, you just have to buy the rebreather!! I'll even include the rest of the spares for free as well.

Grahjam · 3rd October 2007, 17:40

Cheers for the replies

Just a couple of further thoughts

- stripping & lubricating, is this something that folk general carry out on a periodic basis as part of a general maintenance regeime, or only when theres a problem - ie. if it ain't broke do n't fix it.

- fitting a new solonoid, is this a soldering job or simple push fit connections?

BR

GMc

30th September 2007, 21:59	#1 (permalink)
Grahjam New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Warrington (a delightful Cheshire Hamlet) - UK Posts: 31	Solonoid Stuck Hi all After a bit of experience from you people on in the field repairs etc. Been CC for nearly a year now, (why did n't I do it earlier) anyhow on the MOD 1 course and while doing doing general diving i practice, as am sure lots of you do, solonoid stuck open or closed drills. My question is, If this happens for real and all being well the second nature skills get you back to the boat to moan about the issue, what next??? Can the problem be sorted, checked or otherwise in the field or is it a return to APD issue and dive OC for the remianing dives?? Cheers GMC
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30th September 2007, 23:11	#2 (permalink)
chunter I like diving Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Honolulu Posts: 484	Re: Solonoid Stuck Quote: (Originally Posted by Grahjam) Hi all After a bit of experience from you people on in the field repairs etc. Been CC for nearly a year now, (why did n't I do it earlier) anyhow on the MOD 1 course and while doing doing general diving i practice, as am sure lots of you do, solonoid stuck open or closed drills. My question is, If this happens for real and all being well the second nature skills get you back to the boat to moan about the issue, what next??? Can the problem be sorted, checked or otherwise in the field or is it a return to APD issue and dive OC for the remianing dives?? Cheers GMC It really depends on why the solenoid failed. It may be a matter or reconnecting a wire, or there could be bigger problems. The entire soleniod can be fairly easily replaced, and a lot of people carry one as a spare. ALoha, Charlie __________________ "Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson "Hobgoblin is a cool word." - Charlie
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1st October 2007, 02:43	#3 (permalink)
Mixaddict RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 524	Re: Solonoid Stuck I have only had an Inspo solonoid stick open on me one time, and that was at 330 feet. Of course, it got my attention very quickly! Nothing like seeing your PO2 shoot sky high at that depth! I shut my O2 off, breathed it down quite a ways, opened it back up, shut it down again, etc. etc. After about 6 cycles, the solonoid started working, and have not had any problems with it since. That was about 1 1/2 years ago. I suspect, that I got a grain of sand or something stuck in it, and it just needed to work itself out. Those training exercises come in handy. I didn't find "feathering" the valve, all that difficult, but it certainly held my attention! Had I had ongoing problems with it, I would have sent it in for repairs, but fortunately, it has not repeated itself. __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution, Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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1st October 2007, 06:55	#4 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 885	Re: Solonoid Stuck The solenoid is also really easy to open and clean and lube if needed.
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1st October 2007, 07:20	#5 (permalink)
duffmiver New Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SF CA Posts: 19	Re: Solonoid Stuck Quote: (Originally Posted by chunter) and a lot of people carry one as a spare. I have a new solenoid that is in my spares box. I won't be needing it, you can have it for free, you just have to buy the rebreather!! I'll even include the rest of the spares for free as well.
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3rd October 2007, 17:40	#6 (permalink)
Grahjam New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Warrington (a delightful Cheshire Hamlet) - UK Posts: 31	Re: Solonoid Stuck Cheers for the replies Just a couple of further thoughts - stripping & lubricating, is this something that folk general carry out on a periodic basis as part of a general maintenance regeime, or only when theres a problem - ie. if it ain't broke do n't fix it. - fitting a new solonoid, is this a soldering job or simple push fit connections? BR GMc
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