Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD

decoweenie · 25th September 2007, 13:43

I have always liked the Meg hoses as they are the right length, strong and more cut resistance than the standard hose on YBOD.

But it was more difficult to order them from ISC (in the past).

So I was very happy to hear that Golem is selling their VERSION in 2 different lengths which could be even stronger/thicker (i.e. 5/64th inch) than the Meg hoses.

I have just changed out all of the hoses on my Vision to the Golem hoses, but what is important is the 2 back short hoses are now almost indestructible. This is important as I like to crawl into tight spaces on a wreck and have had a lot of breathing hose punctures/cut in the past.

If anyone is looking to strengthen their hoses - especially the back 2 - take a look at the Golem hoses.

You could also add to the protection by wrapping them either with the Golem hose protector, or better yet the Vertex-material hose protector from Oxycheq.

For perfect balance and symmetry, put the 11" on the right side (exhalation) and 13" on the left side (inhalation) since the left hose comes from the center of the scrubber whereas the right hose comes from the edge.

Perhaps Jakub (lof @ Golem) could offer a special package of:

1 x 11" hose
1 x 13" hose

for any YBOD diver who want them for their unit, instead of a pair of the same length.

Or better yet... offer a package of:

1 x 11" hose
1 x 13" hose
1 pair of hose protectors
2 x SS hose clamps

to make it a one-stop shop...

Lancer4545 · 25th September 2007, 21:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

I have always liked the Meg hoses as they are the right length, strong and more cut resistance than the standard hose on YBOD.

But it was more difficult to order them from ISC (in the past).

So I was very happy to hear that Golem is selling their VERSION in 2 different lengths which could be even stronger/thicker (i.e. 5/64th inch) than the Meg hoses.

I have just changed out all of the hoses on my Vision to the Golem hoses, but what is important is the 2 back short hoses are now almost indestructible. This is important as I like to crawl into tight spaces on a wreck and have had a lot of breathing hose punctures/cut in the past.

If anyone is looking to strengthen their hoses - especially the back 2 - take a look at the Golem hoses.

You could also add to the protection by wrapping them either with the Golem hose protector, or better yet the Vertex-material hose protector from Oxycheq.

For perfect balance and symmetry, put the 11" on the right side (exhalation) and 13" on the left side (inhalation) since the left hose comes from the center of the scrubber whereas the right hose comes from the edge.

Perhaps Jakub (lof @ Golem) could offer a special package of:

1 x 11" hose
1 x 13" hose

for any YBOD diver who want them for their unit, instead of a pair of the same length.

Or better yet... offer a package of:

1 x 11" hose
1 x 13" hose
1 pair of hose protectors
2 x SS hose clamps

to make it a one-stop shop...

Hey Deco,

You not getting a commission are you........

Lance

**Fun Under Pressure** · 26th September 2007, 09:16

Thanks for the tip.

Cheers Markku

rusty · 17th October 2007, 00:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

I have always liked the Meg hoses as they are the right length, strong and more cut resistance than the standard hose on YBOD.

But it was more difficult to order them from ISC (in the past).

So I was very happy to hear that Golem is selling their VERSION in 2 different lengths which could be even stronger/thicker (i.e. 5/64th inch) than the Meg hoses.

I have just changed out all of the hoses on my Vision to the Golem hoses, but what is important is the 2 back short hoses are now almost indestructible. This is important as I like to crawl into tight spaces on a wreck and have had a lot of breathing hose punctures/cut in the past.

If anyone is looking to strengthen their hoses - especially the back 2 - take a look at the Golem hoses.

You could also add to the protection by wrapping them either with the Golem hose protector, or better yet the Vertex-material hose protector from Oxycheq.

For perfect balance and symmetry, put the 11" on the right side (exhalation) and 13" on the left side (inhalation) since the left hose comes from the center of the scrubber whereas the right hose comes from the edge.

Perhaps Jakub (lof @ Golem) could offer a special package of:

1 x 11" hose
1 x 13" hose

for any YBOD diver who want them for their unit, instead of a pair of the same length.

Or better yet... offer a package of:

1 x 11" hose
1 x 13" hose
1 pair of hose protectors
2 x SS hose clamps

to make it a one-stop shop...

Phi,

any word on this becoming a kit and would either of these work for the front loop hoses? Thought I would ping you since you have connections with Jakub...

lof · 17th October 2007, 04:09

Lookie here:
Golem Gear, Inc. - CCR Hose - 11and13in Kit

We aim to please.

The full kit is coming.

Mixaddict · 17th October 2007, 05:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by lof)

Lookie here:
Golem Gear, Inc. - CCR Hose - 11and13in Kit

We aim to please.

The full kit is coming.

This is great news, as I have always thought this was a week spot in the design.

decoweenie · 17th October 2007, 05:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by rusty)

any word on this becoming a kit and would either of these work for the front loop hoses?

The kit is made available by Jakub (above). He aims to please...

I use the long hoses (i.e. 13-inch) for the front loop on one of the my BOV, but to be honest, I am so used to my Ray hoses for the front that I alway pick that set up most week-end.

If you use the Golem hoses in the front, there is no need to use any type of hose protector as they will make the hoses stiff. I tried and just took them off immediately.

Also, if you need the bigger hose end connection on your BOV (i.e. more than 1.5 inch), you can't use these hoses.

rusty · 17th October 2007, 20:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

The kit is made available by Jakub (above). He aims to please...

I use the long hoses (i.e. 13-inch) for the front loop on one of the my BOV, but to be honest, I am so used to my Ray hoses for the front that I alway pick that set up most week-end.

If you use the Golem hoses in the front, there is no need to use any type of hose protector as they will make the hoses stiff. I tried and just took them off immediately.

Also, if you need the bigger hose connection on your BOV, you can't use these but for the standard APD DSV, they are fine.

Phi,

one last ? were you able to use the AP threaded rings on both ends of each piece of hose or are you using stainless clamps? Wondering if the threaded inners work with the heavier hoses. Fingers on the trigger....

decoweenie · 17th October 2007, 21:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by rusty)

were you able to use the AP threaded rings on both ends of each piece of hose or are you using stainless clamps? Wondering if the threaded inners work with the heavier hoses. Fingers on the trigger....

If you look at the picture on the first post, you should see the SS hose clamp. I also mentioned in my post.

The Golem hose is just too thick for the APD threaded rings.

I use some Scotch Mastic Tape 2228 on the hose adapters to make it fits better, but the hose clamp still has a ledge to prevent it from slipping. It is almost impossible to pull apart, trust me...

jptaylor9 · 17th October 2007, 22:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict)

This is great news, as I have always thought this was a week spot in the design.

Why? Have you ever heard of a case where the hoses have failed or been cut?

25th September 2007, 21:59	#2 (permalink)
Lancer4545 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 748	Re: Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) I have always liked the Meg hoses as they are the right length, strong and more cut resistance than the standard hose on YBOD. But it was more difficult to order them from ISC (in the past). So I was very happy to hear that Golem is selling their VERSION in 2 different lengths which could be even stronger/thicker (i.e. 5/64th inch) than the Meg hoses. I have just changed out all of the hoses on my Vision to the Golem hoses, but what is important is the 2 back short hoses are now almost indestructible. This is important as I like to crawl into tight spaces on a wreck and have had a lot of breathing hose punctures/cut in the past. If anyone is looking to strengthen their hoses - especially the back 2 - take a look at the Golem hoses. You could also add to the protection by wrapping them either with the Golem hose protector, or better yet the Vertex-material hose protector from Oxycheq. For perfect balance and symmetry, put the 11" on the right side (exhalation) and 13" on the left side (inhalation) since the left hose comes from the center of the scrubber whereas the right hose comes from the edge. Perhaps Jakub (lof @ Golem) could offer a special package of: 1 x 11" hose 1 x 13" hose for any YBOD diver who want them for their unit, instead of a pair of the same length. Or better yet... offer a package of: 1 x 11" hose 1 x 13" hose 1 pair of hose protectors 2 x SS hose clamps to make it a one-stop shop... Hey Deco, You not getting a commission are you........ Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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26th September 2007, 09:16	#3 (permalink)
Fun Under Pressure Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 811	Re: Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD Thanks for the tip. Cheers Markku
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17th October 2007, 00:45	#4 (permalink)
rusty RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Ouroboros rEvo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA,Monterey,CA Posts: 178	Re: Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) I have always liked the Meg hoses as they are the right length, strong and more cut resistance than the standard hose on YBOD. But it was more difficult to order them from ISC (in the past). So I was very happy to hear that Golem is selling their VERSION in 2 different lengths which could be even stronger/thicker (i.e. 5/64th inch) than the Meg hoses. I have just changed out all of the hoses on my Vision to the Golem hoses, but what is important is the 2 back short hoses are now almost indestructible. This is important as I like to crawl into tight spaces on a wreck and have had a lot of breathing hose punctures/cut in the past. If anyone is looking to strengthen their hoses - especially the back 2 - take a look at the Golem hoses. You could also add to the protection by wrapping them either with the Golem hose protector, or better yet the Vertex-material hose protector from Oxycheq. For perfect balance and symmetry, put the 11" on the right side (exhalation) and 13" on the left side (inhalation) since the left hose comes from the center of the scrubber whereas the right hose comes from the edge. Perhaps Jakub (lof @ Golem) could offer a special package of: 1 x 11" hose 1 x 13" hose for any YBOD diver who want them for their unit, instead of a pair of the same length. Or better yet... offer a package of: 1 x 11" hose 1 x 13" hose 1 pair of hose protectors 2 x SS hose clamps to make it a one-stop shop... Phi, any word on this becoming a kit and would either of these work for the front loop hoses? Thought I would ping you since you have connections with Jakub... __________________ Best Regards, Russ Sanoian U/W Sales 831-645-1082 www.backscatter.com Breaching the Boundaries of the Abyss With Underwater Imaging Innovations
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17th October 2007, 04:09	#5 (permalink)
lof RBW Master Plumber Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 502	Re: Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD Lookie here: Golem Gear, Inc. - CCR Hose - 11and13in Kit We aim to please. The full kit is coming. __________________ Jakub Golem Gear ShopKeeper www.golemgear.com
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17th October 2007, 05:12	#6 (permalink)
Mixaddict RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 524	Re: Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD Quote: (Originally Posted by lof) Lookie here: Golem Gear, Inc. - CCR Hose - 11and13in Kit We aim to please. The full kit is coming. This is great news, as I have always thought this was a week spot in the design. __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution, Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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17th October 2007, 05:32	#7 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD Quote: (Originally Posted by rusty) any word on this becoming a kit and would either of these work for the front loop hoses? The kit is made available by Jakub (above). He aims to please... I use the long hoses (i.e. 13-inch) for the front loop on one of the my BOV, but to be honest, I am so used to my Ray hoses for the front that I alway pick that set up most week-end. If you use the Golem hoses in the front, there is no need to use any type of hose protector as they will make the hoses stiff. I tried and just took them off immediately. Also, if you need the bigger hose end connection on your BOV (i.e. more than 1.5 inch), you can't use these hoses. Last edited by decoweenie : 18th October 2007 at 07:33.
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17th October 2007, 20:04	#8 (permalink)
rusty RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Ouroboros rEvo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: USA,Monterey,CA Posts: 178	Re: Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) The kit is made available by Jakub (above). He aims to please... I use the long hoses (i.e. 13-inch) for the front loop on one of the my BOV, but to be honest, I am so used to my Ray hoses for the front that I alway pick that set up most week-end. If you use the Golem hoses in the front, there is no need to use any type of hose protector as they will make the hoses stiff. I tried and just took them off immediately. Also, if you need the bigger hose connection on your BOV, you can't use these but for the standard APD DSV, they are fine. Phi, one last ? were you able to use the AP threaded rings on both ends of each piece of hose or are you using stainless clamps? Wondering if the threaded inners work with the heavier hoses. Fingers on the trigger.... __________________ Best Regards, Russ Sanoian U/W Sales 831-645-1082 www.backscatter.com Breaching the Boundaries of the Abyss With Underwater Imaging Innovations
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17th October 2007, 21:37	#9 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD Quote: (Originally Posted by rusty) were you able to use the AP threaded rings on both ends of each piece of hose or are you using stainless clamps? Wondering if the threaded inners work with the heavier hoses. Fingers on the trigger.... If you look at the picture on the first post, you should see the SS hose clamp. I also mentioned in my post. The Golem hose is just too thick for the APD threaded rings. I use some Scotch Mastic Tape 2228 on the hose adapters to make it fits better, but the hose clamp still has a ledge to prevent it from slipping. It is almost impossible to pull apart, trust me...
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17th October 2007, 22:11	#10 (permalink)
jptaylor9 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 316	Re: Heavy-duty Golem hoses for YBOD Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict) This is great news, as I have always thought this was a week spot in the design. Why? Have you ever heard of a case where the hoses have failed or been cut?
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