Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing

IanWood · 16th August 2007, 22:43

Hi,

I have a Kent Tooling box and am wondering if anyone also has one and clips their stages to that rather than their waist or wing d-rings?

I have been reading the article about it Armadillio system here:

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...iguration.html

I looks to me that the butt plate thing and the bottom of the Kent box would provide a very similar attachment point.

Heres a good article about the Kent box for those unfamiliar with it.

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/inspi...t=kent+tooling

Can anyone see any problems attaching stages to the box?

Cheers

Ian

womble · 16th August 2007, 23:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by IanWood)

Hi,

I have a Kent Tooling box and am wondering if anyone also has one and clips their stages to that rather than their waist or wing d-rings?

I have been reading the article about it Armadillio system here:

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...iguration.html

I looks to me that the butt plate thing and the bottom of the Kent box would provide a very similar attachment point.

Heres a good article about the Kent box for those unfamiliar with it.

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/inspi...t=kent+tooling

Can anyone see any problems attaching stages to the box?

Cheers

Ian

Shouldnt be a problem, I've seen it done. I do a similar thing with the holes in the buttplate of the narked @ ninety stand for my meg. Works a treat.

jkaterenchuk · 16th August 2007, 23:50

I have given it some thought but I just have not gotten around to attaching the valve end bungies. I have attached the tank bottom clip to the KT base before with the top of the tank in the normal chest D ring attachment. I did not like that configuration as the tank bottom seemed to move around more and bang against the KT frame making noise and shifting the frame on my back.

John

Huw · 20th August 2007, 01:14

I use the bottom bars of the Kent tooling frame to attach my sidemounts, the top clip I attach to my chest D-ring and at the bottom clip position I use a carabiner as I find that easier to attach to the frame. I use the bottom bar of the frame and find that the side sling (usually a 7 litre steel, but sometimes 80 cuft Ali) sits tucked in close.

It does sometimes clonk against the frame, but that tends to be only when I roll towards my right side and does not cause any discomfort.

When I get back home I can try and get a couple of photos if that would help.

All the best

Huw

scunick · 20th August 2007, 09:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by womble)

Shouldnt be a problem, I've seen it done. I do a similar thing with the holes in the buttplate of the narked @ ninety stand for my meg. Works a treat.

I have a KiwiDiver SS Box fitted to my vision and after buying the Armadillo Kit I realised that the base struts were in the same position. So... off came the butt plate and I now clip off the stages to the struts and it works a charm. As an aside the struts also make a great place to nose clip additional slings on big dives.

Scunick

kiwidiver · 20th August 2007, 10:46

Good to see the box is getting a work out.

IanWood · 20th August 2007, 15:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by Huw)

I use the bottom bars of the Kent tooling frame to attach my sidemounts, the top clip I attach to my chest D-ring and at the bottom clip position I use a carabiner as I find that easier to attach to the frame. I use the bottom bar of the frame and find that the side sling (usually a 7 litre steel, but sometimes 80 cuft Ali) sits tucked in close.

It does sometimes clonk against the frame, but that tends to be only when I roll towards my right side and does not cause any discomfort.

When I get back home I can try and get a couple of photos if that would help.

All the best

Huw

If you could post some photos that would be great.

Also, why is using a loop of bungee better than clipping the top of the stages?

Cheers

Ian

jkaterenchuk · 21st August 2007, 03:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by IanWood)

If you could post some photos that would be great.

Also, why is using a loop of bungee better than clipping the top of the stages?

Cheers

Ian

I believe a bungee allows the tanks to ride more streamlined under you arm pits.

John

**PhilSiswick** · 22nd August 2007, 17:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

I believe a bungee allows the tanks to ride more streamlined under you arm pits.

John

Having seen an armadillo in use, it certainly does put them in a much more streamlined position, while leaving them easy to access when required. They probably move around less than conventionally mounted stages too.

Cheers,

colinicky · 14th September 2007, 17:37

Could somebody tell me the distance between the but ring & the elastic valve loop on an armadillo system please ? I use the KT box as well but have different length legs on mine .
TIA

16th August 2007, 22:43	#1 (permalink)
IanWood New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 26	Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing Hi, I have a Kent Tooling box and am wondering if anyone also has one and clips their stages to that rather than their waist or wing d-rings? I have been reading the article about it Armadillio system here: http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...iguration.html I looks to me that the butt plate thing and the bottom of the Kent box would provide a very similar attachment point. Heres a good article about the Kent box for those unfamiliar with it. http://www.rebreatherworld.com/inspi...t=kent+tooling Can anyone see any problems attaching stages to the box? Cheers Ian
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16th August 2007, 23:13	#2 (permalink)
womble RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: UK Posts: 202	Re: Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing Quote: (Originally Posted by IanWood) Hi, I have a Kent Tooling box and am wondering if anyone also has one and clips their stages to that rather than their waist or wing d-rings? I have been reading the article about it Armadillio system here: http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...iguration.html I looks to me that the butt plate thing and the bottom of the Kent box would provide a very similar attachment point. Heres a good article about the Kent box for those unfamiliar with it. http://www.rebreatherworld.com/inspi...t=kent+tooling Can anyone see any problems attaching stages to the box? Cheers Ian Shouldnt be a problem, I've seen it done. I do a similar thing with the holes in the buttplate of the narked @ ninety stand for my meg. Works a treat. __________________ "What could possibly go wrong?? . . "
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16th August 2007, 23:50	#3 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 1,100	Re: Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing I have given it some thought but I just have not gotten around to attaching the valve end bungies. I have attached the tank bottom clip to the KT base before with the top of the tank in the normal chest D ring attachment. I did not like that configuration as the tank bottom seemed to move around more and bang against the KT frame making noise and shifting the frame on my back. John
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20th August 2007, 01:14	#4 (permalink)
Huw RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coventry Posts: 32	Re: Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing I use the bottom bars of the Kent tooling frame to attach my sidemounts, the top clip I attach to my chest D-ring and at the bottom clip position I use a carabiner as I find that easier to attach to the frame. I use the bottom bar of the frame and find that the side sling (usually a 7 litre steel, but sometimes 80 cuft Ali) sits tucked in close. It does sometimes clonk against the frame, but that tends to be only when I roll towards my right side and does not cause any discomfort. When I get back home I can try and get a couple of photos if that would help. All the best Huw
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20th August 2007, 09:21	#5 (permalink)
scunick Nick Cunningham-Moorat Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Africa - Cape Town Posts: 110	Re: Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing Quote: (Originally Posted by womble) Shouldnt be a problem, I've seen it done. I do a similar thing with the holes in the buttplate of the narked @ ninety stand for my meg. Works a treat. I have a KiwiDiver SS Box fitted to my vision and after buying the Armadillo Kit I realised that the base struts were in the same position. So... off came the butt plate and I now clip off the stages to the struts and it works a charm. As an aside the struts also make a great place to nose clip additional slings on big dives. Scunick
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20th August 2007, 10:46	#6 (permalink)
kiwidiver RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: new zealand Posts: 154	Re: Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing Good to see the box is getting a work out.
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20th August 2007, 15:30	#7 (permalink)
IanWood New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 26	Re: Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing Quote: (Originally Posted by Huw) I use the bottom bars of the Kent tooling frame to attach my sidemounts, the top clip I attach to my chest D-ring and at the bottom clip position I use a carabiner as I find that easier to attach to the frame. I use the bottom bar of the frame and find that the side sling (usually a 7 litre steel, but sometimes 80 cuft Ali) sits tucked in close. It does sometimes clonk against the frame, but that tends to be only when I roll towards my right side and does not cause any discomfort. When I get back home I can try and get a couple of photos if that would help. All the best Huw If you could post some photos that would be great. Also, why is using a loop of bungee better than clipping the top of the stages? Cheers Ian
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21st August 2007, 03:01	#8 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 1,100	Re: Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing Quote: (Originally Posted by IanWood) If you could post some photos that would be great. Also, why is using a loop of bungee better than clipping the top of the stages? Cheers Ian I believe a bungee allows the tanks to ride more streamlined under you arm pits. John
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22nd August 2007, 17:20	#9 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,099	Re: Using Kent Tooling box as a Golem Armadillo stage thing Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) I believe a bungee allows the tanks to ride more streamlined under you arm pits. John Having seen an armadillo in use, it certainly does put them in a much more streamlined position, while leaving them easy to access when required. They probably move around less than conventionally mounted stages too. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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14th September 2007, 17:37	#10 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 682	Distance between mounts on Armadillo stage thing Could somebody tell me the distance between the but ring & the elastic valve loop on an armadillo system please ? I use the KT box as well but have different length legs on mine . TIA __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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