Inspiration or Evolution

taza · 21st July 2007, 15:40

Hi
Which one should I go for Inspiration or Evolution
My head is battered,I know the difference between the units,
Going to have a look at the Evolution on Thursday.
Not even done the course yet or had a try dive on one.
Finding it hard to get info on try dives in the North West (UK)

Cheers

**nigelh** · 21st July 2007, 16:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by taza)

Which one should I go for Inspiration or Evolution

<shrug>
I paid a lot of money to upgrade the inside of mine from Inspiration to Evolution and, despite a little hickup, I'm pleased I did.

Barrie Law · 21st July 2007, 17:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by taza)

Hi
Which one should I go for Inspiration or Evolution
My head is battered,I know the difference between the units,
Going to have a look at the Evolution on Thursday.
Not even done the course yet or had a try dive on one.
Finding it hard to get info on try dives in the North West (UK)

Cheers

Hi Taza,

If you mean Inspiration with Vision Electronics or Evolution with Vision Electronics I think the it is a personal decision although the Inspiration would have the edge deeper than 90 mtrs.

The Evolution has the edge shallower because it is smaller more compact unit and you would be comfortable to Max 90 mtrs with this unit.

They both have the Temp stick option and full Vision Electronics and cost the same to buy.

The Inspiration casing is a little better because of it's bigger size if you intend to attach cylinders to the outside but the Evolution wins if you intend to fly a lot to dive.

Also your own physical size could be a factor if you are 6'8" you are probably better with the Inspiration (Vision Electronics) or visa versa if you are half the size.

I think you need to ask yourself are you confident enough to show up to a dive boat full of Inspirations if you have a Evolution and not feel the need to explain your self..

steveharriss · 21st July 2007, 17:51

SimonTW, both on here and at yorkshire-divers, may be the guy to contact. He's locally based for you and a top bloke to boot. Of course you could always get hold of Dennis Vessey for a try on a Meg!

Or get to Plymouth and try the lot, including KISS, with Rich Stevenson.

taza · 21st July 2007, 18:53

12 "stone 5ft 6ins medium build.
At the moment dive on
Faber twin 12's.
Still First up the ramp at Dotty

Cheers

bourskov · 21st July 2007, 21:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by taza)

12 "stone 5ft 6ins medium build.
At the moment dive on
Faber twin 12's.
Still First up the ramp at Dotty

Cheers

Hi....

Like said earlier, if you have looked at an Inspiration Vision, the difference is only the size... 2L tanks instead of 3L tanks, smaller scrubber than on an Inspo, hence shorter duration....

Long deep dives - Inspiration
Flying - Evolution

Thats my opinion, anyway... But I have never dived an Evolution

Cheers
Bo Urskov

windymiller · 22nd July 2007, 02:22

I used to have the inspiration classic but sold it and brought an evolution instead.

The evo is great to dive with, quite compact and sits quite nicely on the back (i m 6'2") It has been said that it looks like a pimple on St Pauls on me.

Given the choice again, I think I would go for the Inspiration; there isnt a great weight difference between the 2 once on your back, the scrubber has to be packed more often, and you are forever getting fills for the 2L cylinders!

My has now been taken to pieces, put in a Micheal Hearne frame and 3L cylinders used instead!

You always have the option of buying the other scrubber from AP and then you have both!!

decoweenie · 22nd July 2007, 05:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by taza)

12 "stone 5ft 6ins medium build.

We are in similar height/weight range with me a little taller and lighter.

The standard Inspiration looks/feels huge on me, and the Evolution looks/feels just right.

I have buddies who are 5'10" and taller, yet still prefer the Evolution.

If you are concerned about the tank size, just use one of the (many) after-market frames. It will improve the buoyancy (if using the right one), allow use of larger tanks, easier to travel, etc.

What I did was getting the longer scrubber base (from Inspiration Vision) as well, so I could use either scrubber size to suit the dives.

taza · 22nd July 2007, 10:19

Will the longer scrubber fit inside the evolution back box,
Got the bug now going over to DiveLife on Thursday to see the Evolution.
Can you recommend any books on the Inspiration or Evolution that I can buy.
Cheers

decoweenie · 22nd July 2007, 10:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by taza)

Will the longer scrubber fit inside the evolution back box...

AFAIK, it will not fit without modification to the Evolution case.

Regardless, I feel that the tank size will "limit" your dives more than the scrubber - if you do multiple dives in a row.

Download the APD manual, it is free and one of the best documents you could read about the APD units.

21st July 2007, 15:40	#1 (permalink)
taza New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Warrington UK Posts: 87	Inspiration or Evolution Hi Which one should I go for Inspiration or Evolution My head is battered,I know the difference between the units, Going to have a look at the Evolution on Thursday. Not even done the course yet or had a try dive on one. Finding it hard to get info on try dives in the North West (UK) Cheers
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21st July 2007, 16:50	#2 (permalink)
nigelh New member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 883	Re: Inspiration or Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by taza) Which one should I go for Inspiration or Evolution <shrug> I paid a lot of money to upgrade the inside of mine from Inspiration to Evolution and, despite a little hickup, I'm pleased I did. __________________ nigelh
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21st July 2007, 17:10	#3 (permalink)
Barrie Law Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 459	Re: Inspiration or Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by taza) Hi Which one should I go for Inspiration or Evolution My head is battered,I know the difference between the units, Going to have a look at the Evolution on Thursday. Not even done the course yet or had a try dive on one. Finding it hard to get info on try dives in the North West (UK) Cheers Hi Taza, If you mean Inspiration with Vision Electronics or Evolution with Vision Electronics I think the it is a personal decision although the Inspiration would have the edge deeper than 90 mtrs. The Evolution has the edge shallower because it is smaller more compact unit and you would be comfortable to Max 90 mtrs with this unit. They both have the Temp stick option and full Vision Electronics and cost the same to buy. The Inspiration casing is a little better because of it's bigger size if you intend to attach cylinders to the outside but the Evolution wins if you intend to fly a lot to dive. Also your own physical size could be a factor if you are 6'8" you are probably better with the Inspiration (Vision Electronics) or visa versa if you are half the size. I think you need to ask yourself are you confident enough to show up to a dive boat full of Inspirations if you have a Evolution and not feel the need to explain your self..
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21st July 2007, 17:51	#4 (permalink)
steveharriss Bubble free by choice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 178	Re: Inspiration or Evolution SimonTW, both on here and at yorkshire-divers, may be the guy to contact. He's locally based for you and a top bloke to boot. Of course you could always get hold of Dennis Vessey for a try on a Meg! Or get to Plymouth and try the lot, including KISS, with Rich Stevenson.
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21st July 2007, 18:53	#5 (permalink)
taza New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Warrington UK Posts: 87	Re: Inspiration or Evolution 12 "stone 5ft 6ins medium build. At the moment dive on Faber twin 12's. Still First up the ramp at Dotty Cheers
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21st July 2007, 21:18	#6 (permalink)
bourskov New Member Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 92	Re: Inspiration or Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by taza) 12 "stone 5ft 6ins medium build. At the moment dive on Faber twin 12's. Still First up the ramp at Dotty Cheers Hi.... Like said earlier, if you have looked at an Inspiration Vision, the difference is only the size... 2L tanks instead of 3L tanks, smaller scrubber than on an Inspo, hence shorter duration.... Long deep dives - Inspiration Flying - Evolution Thats my opinion, anyway... But I have never dived an Evolution Cheers Bo Urskov
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22nd July 2007, 02:22	#7 (permalink)
windymiller All The Gear, No Idea Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: england Posts: 295	Re: Inspiration or Evolution I used to have the inspiration classic but sold it and brought an evolution instead. The evo is great to dive with, quite compact and sits quite nicely on the back (i m 6'2") It has been said that it looks like a pimple on St Pauls on me. Given the choice again, I think I would go for the Inspiration; there isnt a great weight difference between the 2 once on your back, the scrubber has to be packed more often, and you are forever getting fills for the 2L cylinders! My has now been taken to pieces, put in a Micheal Hearne frame and 3L cylinders used instead! You always have the option of buying the other scrubber from AP and then you have both!!
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22nd July 2007, 05:32	#8 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Inspiration or Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by taza) 12 "stone 5ft 6ins medium build. We are in similar height/weight range with me a little taller and lighter. The standard Inspiration looks/feels huge on me, and the Evolution looks/feels just right. I have buddies who are 5'10" and taller, yet still prefer the Evolution. If you are concerned about the tank size, just use one of the (many) after-market frames. It will improve the buoyancy (if using the right one), allow use of larger tanks, easier to travel, etc. What I did was getting the longer scrubber base (from Inspiration Vision) as well, so I could use either scrubber size to suit the dives. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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22nd July 2007, 10:19	#9 (permalink)
taza New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Warrington UK Posts: 87	Re: Inspiration or Evolution Will the longer scrubber fit inside the evolution back box, Got the bug now going over to DiveLife on Thursday to see the Evolution. Can you recommend any books on the Inspiration or Evolution that I can buy. Cheers
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22nd July 2007, 10:46	#10 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Inspiration or Evolution Quote: (Originally Posted by taza) Will the longer scrubber fit inside the evolution back box... AFAIK, it will not fit without modification to the Evolution case. Regardless, I feel that the tank size will "limit" your dives more than the scrubber - if you do multiple dives in a row. Download the APD manual, it is free and one of the best documents you could read about the APD units. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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