Jackman Plate

narked at 90 · 16th June 2007, 01:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by abowie)

What does it swim like with all that extra weight on it?

it shouldn't be much different as it is pretty much balanced unless you stick a big tank on one side and a small on the other.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Explorer)

Nicely done John.

Will you making one for the Evolution?

Thanks

Me and Paul are still working on the proto type for the inspo
but im sure we can accommodate the vision and evo dependant on the tests.
kind regards john routley

abowie · 16th June 2007, 02:27

What stops you slinging a tank? Is there not enough room on the Inspo with the front mounted lungs, handsets etc?

Mdemon · 16th June 2007, 07:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by abowie)

What stops you slinging a tank? Is there not enough room on the Inspo with the front mounted lungs, handsets etc?

I bet he wishes he'd thought of that.

Sometimes it's nice having a solid unit where everything is in one place and out of the way.

BGC · 16th June 2007, 09:12

Hi,

What are the advantages of such a system compared to the metalsub clamp system?

Thanks.

Bernard

jstop · 16th June 2007, 16:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by BGC)

What are the advantages of such a system compared to the metalsub clamp system?

The advantages to this plate are:

1) The unit does not need to be drilled or modified in any way, it simply uses the bolts that attach the harness to the box - therefore if you ever sell the unit it is still in good condition.

2) The weight of any cylinders is taken directly on the bolts to the harness and not on the ABS case. Although the case is strong, the entire weight of the unit and stages would be taken at the point the harness bolts go through the box. On a standard unit the top bolt does not even have a washer to spread the load. With this plate the box takes no weight, as the plate takes it.

3) The cylinders are mounted further back - the problem I saw with most brackets is they need to be mounted on the case where it curves around the cylinders. This generally means that they push up against the wing and will press on the wing when inflated.

4) Because I dive all sorts of depths, using CAM bands is very versatile and quick to change. For deep dives, I will have torch packs, off-board oxygen etc. mounted on the unit with large side mounts. For shallower dives a small suit inflation/bail-out can be mounted with no side-mounts. With this plate I can reconfigure the unit very quickly, without the expense of having many brackets.

Paul

Ferg3333 · 16th June 2007, 18:04

I'd be interested in taking one depending on price.

narked at 90 · 16th June 2007, 18:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ferg3333)

I'd be interested in taking one depending on price.

i'd imagen the cost will be around £100-120 for a finished plate
but i would like to get the weight down a touch because if the weight is over 2kg the shipping costs jump
but once we have cut pauls name into the plate and had it scarified it sould be sweet.
kind regards john routley

go-n-deep · 12th July 2007, 06:02

I like that plate. How do I get one? Thanks

**PhilSiswick** · 12th July 2007, 12:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by narked at 90)

i'd imagen the cost will be around £100-120 for a finished plate
but i would like to get the weight down a touch because if the weight is over 2kg the shipping costs jump
but once we have cut pauls name into the plate and had it scarified it sould be sweet.
kind regards john routley

Hi John and Paul,

Missed this earlier - count me in if you go ahead and build them. This stacks up well price wise against the AP/Metalsub mounts and is much more flexible.

Nice job!

Cheers,

jstop · 13th July 2007, 00:47

I have used this plate for a bit now and I am very pleased. It will be getting much more abuse on the trip in a weeks time.

John should be making more of these in the near future.

16th June 2007, 01:03	#11 (permalink)
narked at 90 John Routley Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,077	Re: Jackman Plate Quote: (Originally Posted by abowie) What does it swim like with all that extra weight on it? it shouldn't be much different as it is pretty much balanced unless you stick a big tank on one side and a small on the other. Quote: (Originally Posted by Explorer) Nicely done John. Will you making one for the Evolution? Thanks Me and Paul are still working on the proto type for the inspo but im sure we can accommodate the vision and evo dependant on the tests. kind regards john routley __________________ *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Narked at 90 Go Military
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16th June 2007, 02:27	#12 (permalink)
abowie Fighting Girl Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Land of Oz Posts: 574	Re: Jackman Plate What stops you slinging a tank? Is there not enough room on the Inspo with the front mounted lungs, handsets etc? __________________ Andrew Bowie Rebreather-friendly Buddy
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16th June 2007, 07:32	#13 (permalink)
Mdemon SiegeEngine II Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SWUK Posts: 1,946	Re: Jackman Plate Quote: (Originally Posted by abowie) What stops you slinging a tank? Is there not enough room on the Inspo with the front mounted lungs, handsets etc? I bet he wishes he'd thought of that. Sometimes it's nice having a solid unit where everything is in one place and out of the way.
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16th June 2007, 09:12	#14 (permalink)
BGC RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Mouans-Sartoux, FRANCE Posts: 19	Re: Jackman Plate Hi, What are the advantages of such a system compared to the metalsub clamp system? Thanks. Bernard
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16th June 2007, 16:00	#15 (permalink)
jstop New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 12	Re: Jackman Plate Quote: (Originally Posted by BGC) What are the advantages of such a system compared to the metalsub clamp system? The advantages to this plate are: 1) The unit does not need to be drilled or modified in any way, it simply uses the bolts that attach the harness to the box - therefore if you ever sell the unit it is still in good condition. 2) The weight of any cylinders is taken directly on the bolts to the harness and not on the ABS case. Although the case is strong, the entire weight of the unit and stages would be taken at the point the harness bolts go through the box. On a standard unit the top bolt does not even have a washer to spread the load. With this plate the box takes no weight, as the plate takes it. 3) The cylinders are mounted further back - the problem I saw with most brackets is they need to be mounted on the case where it curves around the cylinders. This generally means that they push up against the wing and will press on the wing when inflated. 4) Because I dive all sorts of depths, using CAM bands is very versatile and quick to change. For deep dives, I will have torch packs, off-board oxygen etc. mounted on the unit with large side mounts. For shallower dives a small suit inflation/bail-out can be mounted with no side-mounts. With this plate I can reconfigure the unit very quickly, without the expense of having many brackets. Paul __________________ www.ccr100.co.uk
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16th June 2007, 18:04	#16 (permalink)
Ferg3333 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blackpool Posts: 156	Re: Jackman Plate I'd be interested in taking one depending on price.
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16th June 2007, 18:56	#17 (permalink)
narked at 90 John Routley Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,077	Re: Jackman Plate Quote: (Originally Posted by Ferg3333) I'd be interested in taking one depending on price. i'd imagen the cost will be around £100-120 for a finished plate but i would like to get the weight down a touch because if the weight is over 2kg the shipping costs jump but once we have cut pauls name into the plate and had it scarified it sould be sweet. kind regards john routley __________________ *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Narked at 90 Go Military
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12th July 2007, 06:02	#18 (permalink)
go-n-deep New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 43	Re: Jackman Plate I like that plate. How do I get one? Thanks
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12th July 2007, 12:53	#19 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,099	Re: Jackman Plate Quote: (Originally Posted by narked at 90) i'd imagen the cost will be around £100-120 for a finished plate but i would like to get the weight down a touch because if the weight is over 2kg the shipping costs jump but once we have cut pauls name into the plate and had it scarified it sould be sweet. kind regards john routley Hi John and Paul, Missed this earlier - count me in if you go ahead and build them. This stacks up well price wise against the AP/Metalsub mounts and is much more flexible. Nice job! Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk Last edited by PhilSiswick : 12th July 2007 at 13:08.
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13th July 2007, 00:47	#20 (permalink)
jstop New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 12	Re: Jackman Plate I have used this plate for a bit now and I am very pleased. It will be getting much more abuse on the trip in a weeks time. John should be making more of these in the near future. __________________ www.ccr100.co.uk
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