Kip-8

jaap · 27th November 2006, 21:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by Corallaro)

Simply and good IDEA!!!

which type of tap you have used?

A very cheap plastic tap for big water cans. They cost something like 1-2$ around here. Its secured by a threaded nut that has to be cut to fit on the inside of the KIP-mouthpiece. An o-ring or more like a rubber gasget makes it watertight.

I made a few for my and my friends KIP-8's and also used it in a few pendelum style O2-Rebreather.

I think I have some left so I will see if I can take a picture of how they look and what I did to modify them for DSV-use.

dz3866 · 28th November 2006, 00:48

what you might want to be carfull with is using the original lung, it streches like a baloon and when you get in a head down position, the second stage will start to free flow and wont stop because the lung will just keep streching, that is why i went with the BG-174 bag in the above post, It would work with that bag if you had manual addition only, this was a problem i had in the first pool dives. Dave.

Corallaro · 28th November 2006, 11:54

Thanks Dave

you tell me an important information about the material of counterlungs for underwater use....

i will test it

jaap · 28th November 2006, 12:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by dz3866)

what you might want to be carfull with is using the original lung, it streches like a baloon and when you get in a head down position, the second stage will start to free flow and wont stop because the lung will just keep streching, that is why i went with the BG-174 bag in the above post, It would work with that bag if you had manual addition only, this was a problem i had in the first pool dives. Dave.

Sounds resonable. But I have not noticed that.
If the lung is "boxed in" by the cylinder,scrubber and casing it cannot expand to badly. That is as long as the OPV is working.

Corallaro · 28th November 2006, 15:01

Jaap.......

which are the modifications that you have made to the kip8?

do you use the original auto add valve???

..i'm thinking to replace the original orifice (2,5 l/min) with that one of the rgufm (0,9 l/min)....if mechanically compatible.....

if I remember the intermediate pressure of original kip8 is similar to rgufm ....etc....

but...this is only an idea

jaap · 29th November 2006, 10:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Corallaro)

Jaap.......

which are the modifications that you have made to the kip8?

do you use the original auto add valve???

..i'm thinking to replace the original orifice (2,5 l/min) with that one of the rgufm (0,9 l/min)....if mechanically compatible.....

if I remember the intermediate pressure of original kip8 is similar to rgufm ....etc....

but...this is only an idea

My KIP-8's only gather dust. That is when I'm not taking parts from them for other projects.

But yes I have dived them a few times. The flow can be blocked. If you are lucky you could detune the original ADV (no sucess guaranteed).

If I would convert one to make an O2-Rebreather I would put an DIN-Air valve on the original cylinder, use a regulator and make a manual bypass out of say a BCD-addvalve. Then either use some cheap plastic valve for DSV or buy a proper DSV.

Clean high pressure O2-parts would be a good idea.

I think the KIP-8 is too limited and too much work for making an mccr.

27th November 2006, 21:06	#21 (permalink)
jaap Normal people worry me Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 473	Re: Kip-8 Quote: (Originally Posted by Corallaro) Simply and good IDEA!!! which type of tap you have used? A very cheap plastic tap for big water cans. They cost something like 1-2$ around here. Its secured by a threaded nut that has to be cut to fit on the inside of the KIP-mouthpiece. An o-ring or more like a rubber gasget makes it watertight. I made a few for my and my friends KIP-8's and also used it in a few pendelum style O2-Rebreather. I think I have some left so I will see if I can take a picture of how they look and what I did to modify them for DSV-use. __________________ My initials: JAAP
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28th November 2006, 00:48	#22 (permalink)
dz3866 zboy Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: May 2005 Location: US California Posts: 148	Re: Kip-8 what you might want to be carfull with is using the original lung, it streches like a baloon and when you get in a head down position, the second stage will start to free flow and wont stop because the lung will just keep streching, that is why i went with the BG-174 bag in the above post, It would work with that bag if you had manual addition only, this was a problem i had in the first pool dives. Dave.
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28th November 2006, 11:54	#23 (permalink)
Corallaro IDA-71,IDA-76,NaubosAR90 Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Italia - Sicilia Posts: 248	Re: Kip-8 Thanks Dave you tell me an important information about the material of counterlungs for underwater use.... i will test it
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28th November 2006, 12:19	#24 (permalink)
jaap Normal people worry me Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 473	Re: Kip-8 Quote: (Originally Posted by dz3866) what you might want to be carfull with is using the original lung, it streches like a baloon and when you get in a head down position, the second stage will start to free flow and wont stop because the lung will just keep streching, that is why i went with the BG-174 bag in the above post, It would work with that bag if you had manual addition only, this was a problem i had in the first pool dives. Dave. Sounds resonable. But I have not noticed that. If the lung is "boxed in" by the cylinder,scrubber and casing it cannot expand to badly. That is as long as the OPV is working. __________________ My initials: JAAP
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28th November 2006, 15:01	#25 (permalink)
Corallaro IDA-71,IDA-76,NaubosAR90 Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Italia - Sicilia Posts: 248	Re: Kip-8 Jaap....... which are the modifications that you have made to the kip8? do you use the original auto add valve??? ..i'm thinking to replace the original orifice (2,5 l/min) with that one of the rgufm (0,9 l/min)....if mechanically compatible..... if I remember the intermediate pressure of original kip8 is similar to rgufm ....etc.... but...this is only an idea
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29th November 2006, 10:15	#26 (permalink)
jaap Normal people worry me Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 473	Re: Kip-8 Quote: (Originally Posted by Corallaro) Jaap....... which are the modifications that you have made to the kip8? do you use the original auto add valve??? ..i'm thinking to replace the original orifice (2,5 l/min) with that one of the rgufm (0,9 l/min)....if mechanically compatible..... if I remember the intermediate pressure of original kip8 is similar to rgufm ....etc.... but...this is only an idea My KIP-8's only gather dust. That is when I'm not taking parts from them for other projects. But yes I have dived them a few times. The flow can be blocked. If you are lucky you could detune the original ADV (no sucess guaranteed). If I would convert one to make an O2-Rebreather I would put an DIN-Air valve on the original cylinder, use a regulator and make a manual bypass out of say a BCD-addvalve. Then either use some cheap plastic valve for DSV or buy a proper DSV. Clean high pressure O2-parts would be a good idea. I think the KIP-8 is too limited and too much work for making an mccr. __________________ My initials: JAAP
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