el cheapo hoses

dive2dive2000 · 28th July 2006, 02:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel)

Been my old cheap self again and bought a pair of breathing hoses from hong kong. Offered on ebay "kiss/ inspo/ homebuild breathing hoses, on a "buy now" offer. Quite cheap. They got delivered promptly, and do look and feel like breathing hoses. Only they smell like a servo.
They stink. My mother picked them up from the postoffice, where they we're happy to see the back off them. When I went over to mums for coffee and said hoses, she frowned at me, thanked me profoundly for having them send to her address, pointed at the parcel laying outside and advised me to open my car windows.
After coming home I threw them in dish water for an hour, but that didn't help. For soaking I trew them in the pond for a day, and ended up with 2 dead fish. So back into dish water, and rinsed them and left them in the shed for a week.

By now, the smell is less, but still noticable. I don't think it might be the best of ideas to take them diving yet....
Any ideas what to do with them to get rid of the smell?
Not ready to bin them.

Denz.

there can be a 100 reasons why they smell, and a 100 ways to fix the problem, Does the cost out way the risk??? Come on man stop foolin around and by from a reputable supplier, there are enough of em around! In case you forgot CCR= closed loop

Sorry for the dig just my PPO2

Genesis · 28th July 2006, 03:32

And which reputable supplier would that be?

See, this is the problem - its kinda hard to find sources for stuff like that who will actually give you a price, specs, and ship 'em.

Happy to buy from said "reputable source" IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE. When people play "unobtanium" games - and they do - then there's a shift in procedure.

(e.g. how come we can't buy T-pieces and the fittings to go into a breathing bag from some "reputable supplier" over the counter? Same issue....)

denzel · 28th July 2006, 10:45

Don't get me started on suppliers/ manufactors.

But since yesterday the smell seems to be totally gone. Or my sense of smell is shot.

As for the size, 610mm for length, sleeve ID 38mm, sleeve length 22mm.

Denz.

dive2dive2000 · 28th July 2006, 15:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

there can be a 100 reasons why they smell, and a 100 ways to fix the problem, Does the cost out way the risk??? Come on man stop foolin around and by from a reputable supplier, there are enough of em around! In case you forgot CCR= closed loop

Sorry for the dig just my PPO2

Geez, I dont know

. I dive a PRISM so if I need hoses for my loop I call Prism. If I need lp or hp hose for my first stage scuba reg I go to a wholesaler. I am not a homebuilder or do I want to be one. I have and do customize products, but if we start buying everything from wholesalers our manufactures might not be here tommorrow. I know the other end of this thought, and dont want to start another economics debate, need to finish up with work and get my kit ready to dive

Have good weekend group, see ya in space, later.

iain-hsm · 28th July 2006, 17:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

Geez, I dont know

. I dive a PRISM so if I need hoses for my loop I call Prism. If I need lp or hp hose for my first stage scuba reg I go to a wholesaler. I am not a homebuilder or do I want to be one. I have and do customize products, but if we start buying everything from wholesalers our manufactures might not be here tommorrow. I know the other end of this thought, and dont want to start another economics debate, need to finish up with work and get my kit ready to dive

Have good weekend group, see ya in space, later.

You may not know, but I do. Like any manufacturer/suppliers we are totally dependant on customers using our products and although are saddened by the ease in which cheap copies are sold on Ebay etc with no regard for your safety. However customers have every right to buy from where and when, it's there choice. We just try better and harder to keep our OEM customers. Simple solution if your going to buy a product ask your perspective supplier to show commitment that means investment, that equates to stock on the shelf, then make him prove it. Simple phone camera and an email is all it takes, transparant truth, plain and simple. Iain Middlebrook

dive2dive2000 · 28th July 2006, 20:45

Hi Ian,

I was not referring to aftermarket manufactures, but more like ebay discounters... . Support your reputable dealer, weather OEM or custom. Do you have a Web site?

Genesis · 29th July 2006, 00:50

Yep - how do I support 'ya if you're not interested in selling to me?

iain-hsm · 29th July 2006, 15:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by Genesis)

Yep - how do I support 'ya if you're not interested in selling to me?

While still in preparation for a true British crush test and in order to show no hard feelings here is the same test I did on the Prism hose post but using “DOT twins”. In order to keep up with U.S. and Florida state gender non specific code I have included a KWFK in the test. A “Key West Fairy Tank”. Regards Iain.

denzel · 29th July 2006, 20:02

Iain,

Not trying to make fun of your last post, but the picture showes 2 hoses, squashed, with 2 tanks (ok, 3) on top. I could do that with my inspo hoses, dolphy hoses and the said el cheapo hoses. Hell, even with the garden hose.
What exactly does it prove?

denz.

babar · 30th July 2006, 03:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel)

Iain,

Not trying to make fun of your last post, but the picture showes 2 hoses, squashed, with 2 tanks (ok, 3) on top. I could do that with my inspo hoses, dolphy hoses and the said el cheapo hoses. Hell, even with the garden hose.
What exactly does it prove?

denz.

I think it shows that they're not squashed. At least as far as I can see from the photo.

28th July 2006, 02:51	#11 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 796	Re: el cheapo hoses Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel) Been my old cheap self again and bought a pair of breathing hoses from hong kong. Offered on ebay "kiss/ inspo/ homebuild breathing hoses, on a "buy now" offer. Quite cheap. They got delivered promptly, and do look and feel like breathing hoses. Only they smell like a servo. They stink. My mother picked them up from the postoffice, where they we're happy to see the back off them. When I went over to mums for coffee and said hoses, she frowned at me, thanked me profoundly for having them send to her address, pointed at the parcel laying outside and advised me to open my car windows. After coming home I threw them in dish water for an hour, but that didn't help. For soaking I trew them in the pond for a day, and ended up with 2 dead fish. So back into dish water, and rinsed them and left them in the shed for a week. By now, the smell is less, but still noticable. I don't think it might be the best of ideas to take them diving yet.... Any ideas what to do with them to get rid of the smell? Not ready to bin them. Denz. there can be a 100 reasons why they smell, and a 100 ways to fix the problem, Does the cost out way the risk??? Come on man stop foolin around and by from a reputable supplier, there are enough of em around! In case you forgot CCR= closed loop Sorry for the dig just my PPO2 __________________ Safe Diving, Martin
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28th July 2006, 03:32	#12 (permalink)
Genesis Bubbless Box of Death Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 1,453	Re: el cheapo hoses And which reputable supplier would that be? See, this is the problem - its kinda hard to find sources for stuff like that who will actually give you a price, specs, and ship 'em. Happy to buy from said "reputable source" IF THEY ARE AVAILABLE. When people play "unobtanium" games - and they do - then there's a shift in procedure. (e.g. how come we can't buy T-pieces and the fittings to go into a breathing bag from some "reputable supplier" over the counter? Same issue....) __________________ "A venturesome minority will always be eager to get off on their own, and no obstacles should be placed in their path; let them take risks for Godsake, let them get lost, sunburnt, stranded, drowned, eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches - that is the right and privilege of any free American." http://www.denninger.net http://www.diversunion.org/liability.htm - Fix the Diving Cert racket
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28th July 2006, 10:45	#13 (permalink)
denzel Holiday diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth! Posts: 358	Re: el cheapo hoses Don't get me started on suppliers/ manufactors. But since yesterday the smell seems to be totally gone. Or my sense of smell is shot. As for the size, 610mm for length, sleeve ID 38mm, sleeve length 22mm. Denz. __________________ My deepest so far, 558.50 mtr, my rig a LF90D...
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28th July 2006, 15:22	#14 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 796	Re: el cheapo hoses Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) there can be a 100 reasons why they smell, and a 100 ways to fix the problem, Does the cost out way the risk??? Come on man stop foolin around and by from a reputable supplier, there are enough of em around! In case you forgot CCR= closed loop Sorry for the dig just my PPO2 Geez, I dont know. I dive a PRISM so if I need hoses for my loop I call Prism. If I need lp or hp hose for my first stage scuba reg I go to a wholesaler. I am not a homebuilder or do I want to be one. I have and do customize products, but if we start buying everything from wholesalers our manufactures might not be here tommorrow. I know the other end of this thought, and dont want to start another economics debate, need to finish up with work and get my kit ready to dive Have good weekend group, see ya in space, later. __________________ Safe Diving, Martin
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28th July 2006, 20:45	#16 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 796	Re: el cheapo hoses Hi Ian, I was not referring to aftermarket manufactures, but more like ebay discounters... . Support your reputable dealer, weather OEM or custom. Do you have a Web site? __________________ Safe Diving, Martin
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29th July 2006, 00:50	#17 (permalink)
Genesis Bubbless Box of Death Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunny Florida Posts: 1,453	Re: el cheapo hoses Yep - how do I support 'ya if you're not interested in selling to me? __________________ "A venturesome minority will always be eager to get off on their own, and no obstacles should be placed in their path; let them take risks for Godsake, let them get lost, sunburnt, stranded, drowned, eaten by bears, buried alive under avalanches - that is the right and privilege of any free American." http://www.denninger.net http://www.diversunion.org/liability.htm - Fix the Diving Cert racket
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29th July 2006, 20:02	#19 (permalink)
denzel Holiday diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth! Posts: 358	Re: el cheapo hoses Iain, Not trying to make fun of your last post, but the picture showes 2 hoses, squashed, with 2 tanks (ok, 3) on top. I could do that with my inspo hoses, dolphy hoses and the said el cheapo hoses. Hell, even with the garden hose. What exactly does it prove? denz. __________________ My deepest so far, 558.50 mtr, my rig a LF90D...
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30th July 2006, 03:00	#20 (permalink)
babar Curmudgeon Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 425	Re: el cheapo hoses Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel) Iain, Not trying to make fun of your last post, but the picture showes 2 hoses, squashed, with 2 tanks (ok, 3) on top. I could do that with my inspo hoses, dolphy hoses and the said el cheapo hoses. Hell, even with the garden hose. What exactly does it prove? denz. I think it shows that they're not squashed. At least as far as I can see from the photo. __________________ Babar Evolution Plus Sport kiss
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