Travel Rebreather?

Ant Slegg · 24th April 2006, 09:54

Has anyone ever developed a home-brew rebreather with the aim of making it travel (i.e. airline baggage restriction of 20 to 25kg) friendly when added to all the other other diving kit?

This would IMHO mean a general scaling down of the unit (smaller scrubber, smaller cylinder(s) etc.) and might result in a unit that was really only suitable for use in combination with more readily available recreation open circuit kit.

I can sort of envisage something that is used in combination with a standard OC BC, cylinder and regulator (hired locally?) has a small O2 (1 or 2 litre) cylinder the diluent being derived from the OC kit with the scrubber and O2 cylinder mounted either side of the (probably) back mounted 12 litre (pony style).

I appreciate that Drager and others have gone some way along this route but would be interested to see if anyone has pushed this to extremes and what practical problems they may have experienced.

BTW I'm not thinking (or even capable) of designing/building one I'm just interested.

Ant S

dantheman · 24th April 2006, 15:25

(travel = unit sans tanks, of course)

Dave Sutton's would qualify:
http://www.nobubblediving.com/mini.htm
although travel wasn't his stated motivation.

I can't find the URL, but there is a page somewhere (was?)
from a Brit who had integrated a Buddy BCD into his system
as a counterlung.. expressly for travel purposes..

Maybe he's here on RBW? ...

--dan

Dutchy · 24th April 2006, 15:33

Another one that i haven't heard about now for a long long time is the travel kiss. Small and clever. Everything could be packed in the unit itself. My guess is that releasing it would have spoiled the market for the Sports KISS so .......

***Beanie*** · 24th April 2006, 15:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy)

Another one that i haven't heard about now for a long long time is the travel kiss. Small and clever. Everything could be packed in the unit itself. My guess is that releasing it would have spoiled the market for the Sports KISS so .......

Is that not the Sport KISS

Duncan Price · 24th April 2006, 15:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ant Slegg)

Has anyone ever developed a home-brew rebreather with the aim of making it travel (i.e. airline baggage restriction of 20 to 25kg) friendly when added to all the other other diving kit?

My sidemount cave diving units broke down pretty small and relied on my driving them from locally borrowed O2 and diluent tanks. Weight 6 kg empty. Holds 3.3 kg sorbant and requires another 4 kg trim weights.

You could wear the dil/bailout backmounts (doubles even) and sling some O2 the opposite side from the 'breather.

Crazyduck · 24th April 2006, 15:56

Dave’s small units is here-
http://www.therebreathersite.nl/worl...cr_by_dave.htm
However, it is chest mounted unit. Sweet…..

The Brit was Bob Howell and the unit was the ‘go anywhere.”
He mounted the scrubber behind his head and then ran the hoses into a buddy BC and out the chest. The BC unit could be used for open circuit or closed circuit. Shoulder connects had caps for diving OC.
This was Pre- Optima.

Website is no more.

Tom Rose has built some interesting units.

The ultimate older unit is still the TP2000 by Will.
If you have ever had the honor to walk into a Harley Davidson store and ask for a motorcycle tube and not care what motorcycle it is for- it’s priceless.

Now we have the sports kiss.

Andrew

urho · 24th April 2006, 16:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ant Slegg)

Has anyone ever developed a home-brew rebreather with the aim of making it travel (i.e. airline baggage restriction of 20 to 25kg) friendly when added to all the other other diving kit?

Ant S

Breathewise

--
Harri

Dutchy · 24th April 2006, 16:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Is that not the Sport KISS

After some googling I found out it is exactly that

It looked different though from the SK but that was probably because it had specially machined parts (unlike the current molded parts) and it had very small bottles. You learn something every day I guess....

P.S.: I have a SK so I guess I should have known

dantheman · 24th April 2006, 16:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Is that not the Sport KISS

It was originally referred to as the Travel. There are pics floating around
showing the case to be flexible, more like a bag made of cordura (or the like).
I imagine such a unit would have been quite light.

--dan

TR300 · 24th April 2006, 16:51

I used my TR300 at travel,

you can put it together with a 10 or 12 Liter cylinder (you get most on the divesite with EAN 32 or EAN 36 ).

I have done this with my normal rec jacket.

have a look here (specialy the last picture

) http://www.tr300.de/divetube.html

Holger

24th April 2006, 09:54	#1 (permalink)
Ant Slegg Still Learning.... Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Grevenmacher, Luxembourg Posts: 171	Travel Rebreather? Has anyone ever developed a home-brew rebreather with the aim of making it travel (i.e. airline baggage restriction of 20 to 25kg) friendly when added to all the other other diving kit? This would IMHO mean a general scaling down of the unit (smaller scrubber, smaller cylinder(s) etc.) and might result in a unit that was really only suitable for use in combination with more readily available recreation open circuit kit. I can sort of envisage something that is used in combination with a standard OC BC, cylinder and regulator (hired locally?) has a small O2 (1 or 2 litre) cylinder the diluent being derived from the OC kit with the scrubber and O2 cylinder mounted either side of the (probably) back mounted 12 litre (pony style). I appreciate that Drager and others have gone some way along this route but would be interested to see if anyone has pushed this to extremes and what practical problems they may have experienced. BTW I'm not thinking (or even capable) of designing/building one I'm just interested. Ant S __________________ Ant' S Learning to dive since 1990...
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24th April 2006, 15:25	#2 (permalink)
dantheman Emoticonoclast Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Join Date: May 2005 Location: NorthEast USA Posts: 397	Re: Travel Rebreather? (travel = unit sans tanks, of course) Dave Sutton's would qualify: http://www.nobubblediving.com/mini.htm although travel wasn't his stated motivation. I can't find the URL, but there is a page somewhere (was?) from a Brit who had integrated a Buddy BCD into his system as a counterlung.. expressly for travel purposes.. Maybe he's here on RBW? ... --dan
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24th April 2006, 15:33	#3 (permalink)
Dutchy Rene Warries Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 844	Re: Travel Rebreather? Another one that i haven't heard about now for a long long time is the travel kiss. Small and clever. Everything could be packed in the unit itself. My guess is that releasing it would have spoiled the market for the Sports KISS so ....... __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. =
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24th April 2006, 15:36	#4 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,311	Re: Travel Rebreather? Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy) Another one that i haven't heard about now for a long long time is the travel kiss. Small and clever. Everything could be packed in the unit itself. My guess is that releasing it would have spoiled the market for the Sports KISS so ....... Is that not the Sport KISS __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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24th April 2006, 15:46	#5 (permalink)
Duncan Price Sump Monster Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wells, Somerset, UK Posts: 335	Re: Travel Rebreather? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ant Slegg) Has anyone ever developed a home-brew rebreather with the aim of making it travel (i.e. airline baggage restriction of 20 to 25kg) friendly when added to all the other other diving kit? My sidemount cave diving units broke down pretty small and relied on my driving them from locally borrowed O2 and diluent tanks. Weight 6 kg empty. Holds 3.3 kg sorbant and requires another 4 kg trim weights. You could wear the dil/bailout backmounts (doubles even) and sling some O2 the opposite side from the 'breather.
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24th April 2006, 15:56	#6 (permalink)
Crazyduck Underwater Mechanic Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS, Dallas/ Ft.Worth Posts: 720	Re: Travel Rebreather? Dave’s small units is here- http://www.therebreathersite.nl/worl...cr_by_dave.htm However, it is chest mounted unit. Sweet….. The Brit was Bob Howell and the unit was the ‘go anywhere.” He mounted the scrubber behind his head and then ran the hoses into a buddy BC and out the chest. The BC unit could be used for open circuit or closed circuit. Shoulder connects had caps for diving OC. This was Pre- Optima. Website is no more. Tom Rose has built some interesting units. The ultimate older unit is still the TP2000 by Will. If you have ever had the honor to walk into a Harley Davidson store and ask for a motorcycle tube and not care what motorcycle it is for- it’s priceless. Now we have the sports kiss. Andrew __________________ Howdy Senor- What’s Happening! Rob Davie April 2005- Presently in a state of transition from Open Circuit to Closed Circuit. "You will not be punished for your anger; you will be punished by it." - Buddha.
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24th April 2006, 16:06	#7 (permalink)
urho New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 34	Re: Travel Rebreather? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ant Slegg) Has anyone ever developed a home-brew rebreather with the aim of making it travel (i.e. airline baggage restriction of 20 to 25kg) friendly when added to all the other other diving kit? Ant S Breathewise -- Harri
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24th April 2006, 16:35	#8 (permalink)
Dutchy Rene Warries Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 844	Re: Travel Rebreather? Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Is that not the Sport KISS After some googling I found out it is exactly that It looked different though from the SK but that was probably because it had specially machined parts (unlike the current molded parts) and it had very small bottles. You learn something every day I guess.... P.S.: I have a SK so I guess I should have known __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. =
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24th April 2006, 16:43	#9 (permalink)
dantheman Emoticonoclast Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Join Date: May 2005 Location: NorthEast USA Posts: 397	Re: Travel Rebreather? Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Is that not the Sport KISS It was originally referred to as the Travel. There are pics floating around showing the case to be flexible, more like a bag made of cordura (or the like). I imagine such a unit would have been quite light. --dan
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24th April 2006, 16:51	#10 (permalink)
TR300 Holger Berghäuser Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Dolphin Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Weinheim, Germany Posts: 217	Re: Travel Rebreather? I used my TR300 at travel, you can put it together with a 10 or 12 Liter cylinder (you get most on the divesite with EAN 32 or EAN 36 ). I have done this with my normal rec jacket. have a look here (specialy the last picture ) http://www.tr300.de/divetube.html Holger __________________ If it makes bubbles it means its brocken Visit: www.tr300.com, Missions: www.rebreatherteam.de
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