Counter Lung !!!!!!!

spike · 23rd March 2006, 22:26

Hallo is there anybody who could help me with building a SCR based on Rebreather 80?? I need to find a manufacturer of counter lung or to buy some cheap ones somewhere? Do you have any idea how to do that? Thank you for your help Jakub

lizardland · 24th March 2006, 10:07

Contact Michael at www.stde.ch

When I spoke to him a couple of years ago he was willing to sell a set of bellows from the EDO-04.

McMaster Carr do bellows but I've heard they are too stiff.

Try somewhere that makes/services anaesthetic machines as they use similar (though not quite) assemblies.

spike · 24th March 2006, 18:36

Thank you for the answer. I have asked Michael a few month ago but naturally he wanted to sell the whole Rebreather EDO. Thank you for the contact to McMaster Iĺl try to ask them for some offer.

I have already tryed Hoyer comp. they make counterlungs with 1,7 liters volume or less only. Draeger - NO chance and CHeiron - NO chance.

thanx Jakub

Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland)

Contact Michael at www.stde.ch

When I spoke to him a couple of years ago he was willing to sell a set of bellows from the EDO-04.

McMaster Carr do bellows but I've heard they are too stiff.

Try somewhere that makes/services anaesthetic machines as they use similar (though not quite) assemblies.

zepp · 24th March 2006, 19:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by spike)

Hallo is there anybody who could help me with building a SCR based on Rebreather 80?? I need to find a manufacturer of counter lung or to buy some cheap ones somewhere? Do you have any idea how to do that? Thank you for your help Jakub

Have you had a look at using Dromedary Bags, you can find them here http://www.facewest.co.uk/pp/msr/dromedary.htm they come in various shapes and sizes, and very strong.

decoweenie · 24th March 2006, 20:40

I am selling a brand new incomplete TR-300 that I was going to build into a side-mount CCR (but went with another design instead).

It is HERE.

It is similar to the Rebreather-80 principle and a affordable step to start.

spike · 25th March 2006, 14:36

Answer from McMaster:
Thank you for sending us this inquiry. Due to the ever-increasing complexity of U.S. Export regulations, McMaster-Carr has decided to only accept orders from a few, long-established customers of ours overseas. Your company is not in this category, and we are unable to bid on this inquiry. We regret any inconvenience this causes you.

Kathy Anderson

If you have any other idea please let me know

Jakub

Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland)

Contact Michael at www.stde.ch

When I spoke to him a couple of years ago he was willing to sell a set of bellows from the EDO-04.

McMaster Carr do bellows but I've heard they are too stiff.

Try somewhere that makes/services anaesthetic machines as they use similar (though not quite) assemblies.

montyg · 25th March 2006, 15:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by spike)

Answer from McMaster:
Thank you for sending us this inquiry. Due to the ever-increasing complexity of U.S. Export regulations, McMaster-Carr has decided to only accept orders from a few, long-established customers of ours overseas. Your company is not in this category, and we are unable to bid on this inquiry. We regret any inconvenience this causes you.

Kathy Anderson

If you have any other idea please let me know

Jakub

After some scrounging on the 'Net i was recommended these suppliers, but never investigated it further:

http://www.gortite.com/thermiseal.htm
http://www.jameswalker.co.uk/docs/products/bellows.htm

HTH

rgds
monty

montyg · 25th March 2006, 15:44

...and these were the most promising, and mentioned most often:

http://www.moellerbalg.de/

www.faltenbalg.de

We've talked about this before on Rebreatherworld.com - see:

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/home-...g-bellows.html

and there's more mention here ( in German, though )

http://www.tauchernet.com/forum/rebr...ageNummer=1219

rgds
monty

23rd March 2006, 22:26	#1 (permalink)
spike New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ostrava Posts: 7	Counter Lung !!!!!!! Hallo is there anybody who could help me with building a SCR based on Rebreather 80?? I need to find a manufacturer of counter lung or to buy some cheap ones somewhere? Do you have any idea how to do that? Thank you for your help Jakub
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24th March 2006, 10:07	#2 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,387	Re: Counter Lung !!!!!!! Contact Michael at www.stde.ch When I spoke to him a couple of years ago he was willing to sell a set of bellows from the EDO-04. McMaster Carr do bellows but I've heard they are too stiff. Try somewhere that makes/services anaesthetic machines as they use similar (though not quite) assemblies. __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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24th March 2006, 18:36	#3 (permalink)
spike New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ostrava Posts: 7	Re: Counter Lung !!!!!!! Thank you for the answer. I have asked Michael a few month ago but naturally he wanted to sell the whole Rebreather EDO. Thank you for the contact to McMaster Iĺl try to ask them for some offer. I have already tryed Hoyer comp. they make counterlungs with 1,7 liters volume or less only. Draeger - NO chance and CHeiron - NO chance. thanx Jakub Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland) Contact Michael at www.stde.ch When I spoke to him a couple of years ago he was willing to sell a set of bellows from the EDO-04. McMaster Carr do bellows but I've heard they are too stiff. Try somewhere that makes/services anaesthetic machines as they use similar (though not quite) assemblies.
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24th March 2006, 19:14	#4 (permalink)
zepp "Dyson with Death" daddy Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: midlands Posts: 284	Re: Counter Lung !!!!!!! Quote: (Originally Posted by spike) Hallo is there anybody who could help me with building a SCR based on Rebreather 80?? I need to find a manufacturer of counter lung or to buy some cheap ones somewhere? Do you have any idea how to do that? Thank you for your help Jakub Have you had a look at using Dromedary Bags, you can find them here http://www.facewest.co.uk/pp/msr/dromedary.htm they come in various shapes and sizes, and very strong. __________________ I'm not a bad person.....HONEST my homebuild photos http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...ery.php/cat/48 CLASSIC KISS #052/shearwater The Dyson is back
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24th March 2006, 20:40	#5 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Counter Lung !!!!!!! I am selling a brand new incomplete TR-300 that I was going to build into a side-mount CCR (but went with another design instead). It is HERE. It is similar to the Rebreather-80 principle and a affordable step to start. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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25th March 2006, 14:36	#6 (permalink)
spike New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ostrava Posts: 7	Re: Counter Lung !!!!!!! Answer from McMaster: Thank you for sending us this inquiry. Due to the ever-increasing complexity of U.S. Export regulations, McMaster-Carr has decided to only accept orders from a few, long-established customers of ours overseas. Your company is not in this category, and we are unable to bid on this inquiry. We regret any inconvenience this causes you. Kathy Anderson If you have any other idea please let me know Jakub Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland) Contact Michael at www.stde.ch When I spoke to him a couple of years ago he was willing to sell a set of bellows from the EDO-04. McMaster Carr do bellows but I've heard they are too stiff. Try somewhere that makes/services anaesthetic machines as they use similar (though not quite) assemblies.
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25th March 2006, 15:13	#7 (permalink)
montyg Monty Guest Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 242	Re: Counter Lung !!!!!!! Quote: (Originally Posted by spike) Answer from McMaster: Thank you for sending us this inquiry. Due to the ever-increasing complexity of U.S. Export regulations, McMaster-Carr has decided to only accept orders from a few, long-established customers of ours overseas. Your company is not in this category, and we are unable to bid on this inquiry. We regret any inconvenience this causes you. Kathy Anderson If you have any other idea please let me know Jakub After some scrounging on the 'Net i was recommended these suppliers, but never investigated it further: http://www.gortite.com/thermiseal.htm http://www.jameswalker.co.uk/docs/products/bellows.htm HTH rgds monty
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25th March 2006, 15:44	#8 (permalink)
montyg Monty Guest Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 242	Re: Counter Lung !!!!!!! ...and these were the most promising, and mentioned most often: http://www.moellerbalg.de/ www.faltenbalg.de We've talked about this before on Rebreatherworld.com - see: http://www.rebreatherworld.com/home-...g-bellows.html and there's more mention here ( in German, though ) http://www.tauchernet.com/forum/rebr...ageNummer=1219 rgds monty
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