Torche Project

SubzeroDiver · 10th October 2008, 20:13

Here is my little project. I used 3'' SOLID ROUND PVC. I put around 12 hours in to it.

eXile · 12th October 2008, 20:43

That looks really nice. What sort of lamp are you going to use in it?

SubzeroDiver · 14th October 2008, 15:04

Maybe a Q5 led Or a P7 led with a awesome prism.

Packhorse · 15th October 2008, 08:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by SubzeroDiver)

Maybe a Q5 led Or a P7 led with a awesome prism.

The R2 is the new Q5

. But to be honest a can light is over kill for a single emitter LED based light.
I have a small backup with a Q5 and aspheric lens using a single 2500ma Li Ion cell that delivers 200+ lumens for 2 hours +

The P7 is a nice LED but with 4 dies it is hard to get a tight focus (if that is what you are after).

Below are 4 beams from 4 diffrent dive light projects of mine.

Left.... a 13watt Trail tech HID 6 deg. Quite disapointing and I never finished this project
Centre... Single P7 (C bin)at 2.8amps and 2 inch reflector. Quite impressive for 9watt consumption with a nice amount of spill light.
Right....4 x Q5's driven at 1400ma each with asperic lenses. Next to no spill. 8.3 deg beam.
Top Single.....Q5 aspheric as noted above.

Bottom line. Forget single LED. You will be disappointed as soon as you dive with someone with a multi LED light or decent HID. Cram as many Q5's or R2's in as you can fit/drive.

Packhorse · 15th October 2008, 09:06

Although you will need some way to dissipate the heat and Im not sure if you will have much success with that using a PVC light head.

Mike_Eitel · 19th October 2008, 11:14

Salu
have a look on:

Mike Eitel AVRburner dive lamp solution the 3 LED version.

That is absolutley bright enough.

My 7 LED vesrion I'm diving the most,
but very seldome with more than 50% ~3 LED's

Makking your own aluminium head is easy doinf as you have a mill.

Mike.

P.S.
I had in earlier days problem with PVC, as it get smooth when heated and togeather with pressure, f.y. 40m, it changes form = flooding.
Also keeping the power LEDs is important for the efficency factor !

Packhorse · 20th October 2008, 07:41

Nice work Mike. But the MeLED1 states 2 degrees? Is this correct? Have you got a link to the colluminator used?

Mike_Eitel · 22nd October 2008, 12:13

Yes 2 degrees is right.
It's like a "jedi swort" :-)

Sorry got the "colliminator" from a friend, saw it also on the internet, but cant remember where. If I'm not wrong it's quite expensive, 15 - 20€.
And diameter was also bigger than usual

Forgot to make enough photos ;-( before I glued it together.

Mike

12th October 2008, 20:43	#2 (permalink)
eXile New Member Current Rebreather/s: Ray Other Rebreather/s: Ray Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Jervis Bay, Australia Posts: 17	Re: Torche Project That looks really nice. What sort of lamp are you going to use in it?
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14th October 2008, 15:04	#3 (permalink)
SubzeroDiver New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Orange Park,FL Posts: 6	Re: Torche Project Maybe a Q5 led Or a P7 led with a awesome prism.
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15th October 2008, 08:46	#4 (permalink)
Packhorse Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Auckland New Zealand Posts: 106	Re: Torche Project Quote: (Originally Posted by SubzeroDiver) Maybe a Q5 led Or a P7 led with a awesome prism. The R2 is the new Q5 . But to be honest a can light is over kill for a single emitter LED based light. I have a small backup with a Q5 and aspheric lens using a single 2500ma Li Ion cell that delivers 200+ lumens for 2 hours + The P7 is a nice LED but with 4 dies it is hard to get a tight focus (if that is what you are after). Below are 4 beams from 4 diffrent dive light projects of mine. Left.... a 13watt Trail tech HID 6 deg. Quite disapointing and I never finished this project Centre... Single P7 (C bin)at 2.8amps and 2 inch reflector. Quite impressive for 9watt consumption with a nice amount of spill light. Right....4 x Q5's driven at 1400ma each with asperic lenses. Next to no spill. 8.3 deg beam. Top Single.....Q5 aspheric as noted above. Bottom line. Forget single LED. You will be disappointed as soon as you dive with someone with a multi LED light or decent HID. Cram as many Q5's or R2's in as you can fit/drive. __________________ There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
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15th October 2008, 09:06	#5 (permalink)
Packhorse Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Auckland New Zealand Posts: 106	Re: Torche Project Although you will need some way to dissipate the heat and Im not sure if you will have much success with that using a PVC light head. __________________ There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
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19th October 2008, 11:14	#6 (permalink)
Mike_Eitel New Member Current Rebreather/s: Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Ray Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: Switzerland Posts: 15	Re: Torche Project Salu have a look on: Mike Eitel AVRburner dive lamp solution the 3 LED version. That is absolutley bright enough. My 7 LED vesrion I'm diving the most, but very seldome with more than 50% ~3 LED's Makking your own aluminium head is easy doinf as you have a mill. Mike. P.S. I had in earlier days problem with PVC, as it get smooth when heated and togeather with pressure, f.y. 40m, it changes form = flooding. Also keeping the power LEDs is important for the efficency factor ! __________________ Regards Mike Eitel / Switzerland http://www.eitel.ch
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20th October 2008, 07:41	#7 (permalink)
Packhorse Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Auckland New Zealand Posts: 106	Re: Torche Project Nice work Mike. But the MeLED1 states 2 degrees? Is this correct? Have you got a link to the colluminator used? __________________ There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
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22nd October 2008, 12:13	#8 (permalink)
Mike_Eitel New Member Current Rebreather/s: Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Ray Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: Switzerland Posts: 15	Re: Torche Project Yes 2 degrees is right. It's like a "jedi swort" :-) Sorry got the "colliminator" from a friend, saw it also on the internet, but cant remember where. If I'm not wrong it's quite expensive, 15 - 20€. And diameter was also bigger than usual Forgot to make enough photos ;-( before I glued it together. Mike __________________ Regards Mike Eitel / Switzerland http://www.eitel.ch
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