DSV for IDA 71

Packhorse · 10th June 2008, 11:20

OK its time for me to get a DSV for my IDA 17.
Any recommendations?
What DSV?
What hoses?
Something that will fit directly on to the existing fittings would be good but I can make up adaptors is needed.

What about the Ray DSV and hoses that Tecme sells for E240?

Whats the specs on the gear you have on your AKA Ray?

Anyone want to buy a IDA DSV with 2 set of hoses?

kiwi_diver · 10th June 2008, 11:59

Martin does Ray DSV and hoses and also delrin adapters to fit them to IDA-71's.

Mine is Abyss from Rebreathers Australia. Their spiral hoses were AU$55 each and the big-bore DSV was AU$225 and postage was AU$30. The hoses were about 3" too short on my rig so I extended my copper couplings.

Mossyback · 10th June 2008, 12:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by kiwi_diver)

Martin does Ray DSV and hoses and also delrin adapters to fit them to IDA-71's.

Mine is Abyss from Rebreathers Australia. Their spiral hoses were AU$55 each and the big-bore DSV was AU$225 and postage was AU$30. The hoses were about 3" too short on my rig so I extended my copper couplings.

Hi Ray,

I've also found that my hoses are too short and the DSV tends to be uncomfortable in my mouth. Have you a photo or description of your extended copper couplings?

Hank

**Dave Sutton** · 10th June 2008, 12:59

Ray hoses and DSV is ideal. I use them on just about everything, and they are super on the IDA-71. The old DSV makes a nice paperweight.

Dave

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kiwi_diver · 10th June 2008, 22:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mossyback)

Hi Ray,

I've also found that my hoses are too short and the DSV tends to be uncomfortable in my mouth. Have you a photo or description of your extended copper couplings?

Hank

Hi Hank, I started with standard copper plumbing 1" elbows at 135 deg coming from the fittings on the top of the counterlung, still using the original russian backnut. These were flared out to 1.5" to meet the Abyss hoses and are as per the photo below, I've drawn a white line to show the original elbow angle. I've now gone to almost 90 degrees and added 3" straight copper extensions over my wing so now the Abyss hoses start almost from my shoulder. I moved the Oxycheck covers back towards the elbows since the copper extensions looked a bit rude.

I still think copper is ok. I would be a bit worried having big chunks of delrin like some of Martins external cell holders etc sticking up over my shoulders. I think they're too vulnerable. Copper will take a few dings and not be a problem.

Packhorse · 11th June 2008, 02:15

Will the ray hoses go directly on to the ida fittings?

**Dave Sutton** · 11th June 2008, 02:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by Packhorse)

Will the ray hoses go directly on to the ida fittings?

No but you can make new spools to replace the old ones and re-use the nuts. The spool is what the hose slips over. Make larger diameter ones and reuse the nuts. I used PVC rod and it took a half hour on the lathe.

In fact, see:

Franken-Son DSV and Hoses

All is revealed there. You can right click the pics and then save them, re-open them with any photo program and zoom in. High Res photos.

Let's see... those photos cannot be more than 7 years old...

Dave

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Packhorse · 11th June 2008, 06:03

Ray, the only issue I have with copper is corossion. As you know I am currently using copper in my IDA but what I am thinking of doing is applying a thin layer of silver solder over the copper. Shouldnt be to hard with a decent torch.

montyg · 11th June 2008, 06:36

I put KISS hoses and a KISS BOV on my IDA-71 and it works a treat!

In order to get the outside diameter increased for the hoses to fit nicely I put a rubber sleeve over the existing IDA spools.

rgds
monty

kiwi_diver · 11th June 2008, 20:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by Packhorse)

Ray, the only issue I have with copper is corossion. As you know I am currently using copper in my IDA but what I am thinking of doing is applying a thin layer of silver solder over the copper. Shouldnt be to hard with a decent torch.

Greg, it will discolour but it is unlikely to corrode in a hurry. Copper tubing is used extensively on older boats to provide heat-exchange to the sea for engine coolant by running long lengths of it along the outside of the hull.

Copper survives in salt water for decades.

You could get the parts professionally electroplated for cosmetics.

10th June 2008, 11:20	#1 (permalink)
Packhorse Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Auckland New Zealand Posts: 106	DSV for IDA 71 OK its time for me to get a DSV for my IDA 17. Any recommendations? What DSV? What hoses? Something that will fit directly on to the existing fittings would be good but I can make up adaptors is needed. What about the Ray DSV and hoses that Tecme sells for E240? Whats the specs on the gear you have on your AKA Ray? Anyone want to buy a IDA DSV with 2 set of hoses? __________________ There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
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10th June 2008, 11:59	#2 (permalink)
kiwi_diver Alias - Ray Mansell Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 157	Re: DSV for IDA 71 Martin does Ray DSV and hoses and also delrin adapters to fit them to IDA-71's. Mine is Abyss from Rebreathers Australia. Their spiral hoses were AU$55 each and the big-bore DSV was AU$225 and postage was AU$30. The hoses were about 3" too short on my rig so I extended my copper couplings. __________________ Ray. == Latitude 36 South, where the deeper you dive, the warmer it gets! ==
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10th June 2008, 12:51	#3 (permalink)
Mossyback Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Ontario, Canada Posts: 109	Re: DSV for IDA 71 Quote: (Originally Posted by kiwi_diver) Martin does Ray DSV and hoses and also delrin adapters to fit them to IDA-71's. Mine is Abyss from Rebreathers Australia. Their spiral hoses were AU$55 each and the big-bore DSV was AU$225 and postage was AU$30. The hoses were about 3" too short on my rig so I extended my copper couplings. Hi Ray, I've also found that my hoses are too short and the DSV tends to be uncomfortable in my mouth. Have you a photo or description of your extended copper couplings? Hank __________________ "Be the kind of person your dog thinks you are."
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10th June 2008, 12:59	#4 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,907	Re: DSV for IDA 71 Ray hoses and DSV is ideal. I use them on just about everything, and they are super on the IDA-71. The old DSV makes a nice paperweight. Dave . __________________ "Silent Diving with No Bubbles and No Politics".... www.nobubblediving.com
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11th June 2008, 02:15	#6 (permalink)
Packhorse Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Auckland New Zealand Posts: 106	Re: DSV for IDA 71 Will the ray hoses go directly on to the ida fittings? __________________ There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
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11th June 2008, 02:55	#7 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,907	Re: DSV for IDA 71 Quote: (Originally Posted by Packhorse) Will the ray hoses go directly on to the ida fittings? No but you can make new spools to replace the old ones and re-use the nuts. The spool is what the hose slips over. Make larger diameter ones and reuse the nuts. I used PVC rod and it took a half hour on the lathe. In fact, see: Franken-Son DSV and Hoses All is revealed there. You can right click the pics and then save them, re-open them with any photo program and zoom in. High Res photos. Let's see... those photos cannot be more than 7 years old... Dave . __________________ "Silent Diving with No Bubbles and No Politics".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 11th June 2008 at 03:07.
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11th June 2008, 06:03	#8 (permalink)
Packhorse Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Auckland New Zealand Posts: 106	Re: DSV for IDA 71 Ray, the only issue I have with copper is corossion. As you know I am currently using copper in my IDA but what I am thinking of doing is applying a thin layer of silver solder over the copper. Shouldnt be to hard with a decent torch. __________________ There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
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11th June 2008, 20:46	#10 (permalink)
kiwi_diver Alias - Ray Mansell Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 157	Re: DSV for IDA 71 Quote: (Originally Posted by Packhorse) Ray, the only issue I have with copper is corossion. As you know I am currently using copper in my IDA but what I am thinking of doing is applying a thin layer of silver solder over the copper. Shouldnt be to hard with a decent torch. Greg, it will discolour but it is unlikely to corrode in a hurry. Copper tubing is used extensively on older boats to provide heat-exchange to the sea for engine coolant by running long lengths of it along the outside of the hull. Copper survives in salt water for decades. You could get the parts professionally electroplated for cosmetics. __________________ Ray. == Latitude 36 South, where the deeper you dive, the warmer it gets! ==
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