Regulator Choice - mCCR

**Scott** · 17th February 2008, 08:15

Alright.. time to buy a reg for mCCR O2 side... I haven't finished looking around.. but these are my options thusfar... What do you all think?

Mares MR12 (300din) - $179.96 shipped w/ a second stage I can sell (Rebel nitrox)
Apeks DS4 (300din) - $145.13 +shipping

(each yoke price needs another +$50 or so for din converter =/
Aqualung Titan (yoke) - $204.95 +shipping w/ a second stage I can sell
Oceanic CDX5 (yoke)- $206.10 shipped w/ a second stage I can sell off (GT3)
Oceanic CDX5 DVT (yoke) - 359.96 shippwed w/ a second stage I can sell off (GT3)

(EDIT : on second thought, if using elbows, routing on the Titan would probably be cleanest end edit)
I think the hose routing would be best with the CDX5, second best with the DS4...
I think the Titan would be most compact, and the MR12 the best deal money wise...

As its will be my O2 reg, the DVT sounds promising for helping to keep biologicals and other *stuff* out when washing the regs...

Thanks for your time
... -Scott

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scubagrunt · 17th February 2008, 09:00

i would go with the DS4 as it is easily serviced and is easily adapted to mCCR use. (meg COPIS, KISS and rEvo all use them)
mel

Packhorse · 18th February 2008, 04:42

I have briefly looked into this myself.
All my regs are scubapros and would like to keep ity that way...but....

Its pretty darn hard to look past a DS4 for e99 on tecme.de + e16 for a blanking plate.

Philippe GERIN · 18th February 2008, 08:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Packhorse)

DS4 + blanking plate.

No need for a blanking plate/plug. Just clip the plunger.
Best
Philippe

netmage · 18th February 2008, 14:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott)

Alright.. time to buy a reg for mCCR O2 side... I haven't finished looking around.. but these are my options thusfar... What do you all think?

Apeks DS4 (300din) - $145.13 +shipping

Where's the DS4 source that low....? Lowest I've seen is ~$180

**Scott** · 18th February 2008, 17:08

tecme.de 99 euros = 145.13 usd

netmage · 18th February 2008, 17:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott)

tecme.de 99 euros = 145.13 usd

Wow... let me know what shipping ends up running...

**Scott** · 18th February 2008, 17:37

Well.. if I go with the DS4.. shipping wouldn't be accurate as I have more then a few other items on my list of things to buy from Martin..

I'm thinking more and more about my unlisted option.. the H2Odyssey integrated pillar valve/diaphragm regulator.. but the threads don't match the LAR tanks I intend to use......

-Scott

osiris · 19th February 2008, 10:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage)

Wow... let me know what shipping ends up running...

Well, I got 2 X DS-4s coming, with blanking cap and 4 P-Ports and shipping was quoted by martin at EU20 - to Noo zeelund. Thats not bad is it?

Inspired Trainer · 19th February 2008, 18:38

If you plan on staying shallow the DS4's are adequate.

If you plan to go below 100m or so FAR better options are Aqualung Calypso or Scubapro mk2 - both are cheap/easy to service and dont offer IP boost which is preferable on a manual CCR else the o2 add valve/orifice will be over driven in deep water leading to failure or po2 creep

ive had calypso's to 180m, mr12 to 150m, mk2 to 150m all without dramas - the ds4's with or without enviro seals will be problematic as you approach 100m

hope that helps

Mark

17th February 2008, 08:15	#1 (permalink)
Scott Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mendota, Virginia Posts: 175	Regulator Choice - mCCR Alright.. time to buy a reg for mCCR O2 side... I haven't finished looking around.. but these are my options thusfar... What do you all think? Mares MR12 (300din) - $179.96 shipped w/ a second stage I can sell (Rebel nitrox) Apeks DS4 (300din) - $145.13 +shipping (each yoke price needs another +$50 or so for din converter =/ Aqualung Titan (yoke) - $204.95 +shipping w/ a second stage I can sell Oceanic CDX5 (yoke)- $206.10 shipped w/ a second stage I can sell off (GT3) Oceanic CDX5 DVT (yoke) - 359.96 shippwed w/ a second stage I can sell off (GT3) (EDIT : on second thought, if using elbows, routing on the Titan would probably be cleanest end edit) I think the hose routing would be best with the CDX5, second best with the DS4... I think the Titan would be most compact, and the MR12 the best deal money wise... As its will be my O2 reg, the DVT sounds promising for helping to keep biologicals and other stuff out when washing the regs... Thanks for your time ... -Scott (keywords for searches: 1st regulator mCCR uncompensate uncompensated decompensated) Last edited by Scott : 17th February 2008 at 09:00.
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scubagrunt CCR Diva Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 429	Re: Regulator Choice - mCCR i would go with the DS4 as it is easily serviced and is easily adapted to mCCR use. (meg COPIS, KISS and rEvo all use them) mel __________________ "No good deed goes unpunished!" www.silentscuba.com
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18th February 2008, 04:42	#3 (permalink)
Packhorse Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Auckland New Zealand Posts: 103	Re: Regulator Choice - mCCR I have briefly looked into this myself. All my regs are scubapros and would like to keep ity that way...but.... Its pretty darn hard to look past a DS4 for e99 on tecme.de + e16 for a blanking plate. __________________ There are no stupid questions, but there are a LOT of inquisitive idiots.
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18th February 2008, 08:42	#4 (permalink)
Philippe GERIN ccr apprentice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Strasbourg, France Posts: 634	Re: Regulator Choice - mCCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Packhorse) DS4 + blanking plate. No need for a blanking plate/plug. Just clip the plunger. Best Philippe
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18th February 2008, 14:43	#5 (permalink)
netmage Tim Owens Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coconut Creek, FL Posts: 512	Re: Regulator Choice - mCCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott) Alright.. time to buy a reg for mCCR O2 side... I haven't finished looking around.. but these are my options thusfar... What do you all think? Apeks DS4 (300din) - $145.13 +shipping Where's the DS4 source that low....? Lowest I've seen is ~$180
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18th February 2008, 17:08	#6 (permalink)
Scott Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mendota, Virginia Posts: 175	Re: Regulator Choice - mCCR tecme.de 99 euros = 145.13 usd
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18th February 2008, 17:34	#7 (permalink)
netmage Tim Owens Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coconut Creek, FL Posts: 512	Re: Regulator Choice - mCCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott) tecme.de 99 euros = 145.13 usd Wow... let me know what shipping ends up running...
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18th February 2008, 17:37	#8 (permalink)
Scott Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mendota, Virginia Posts: 175	Re: Regulator Choice - mCCR Well.. if I go with the DS4.. shipping wouldn't be accurate as I have more then a few other items on my list of things to buy from Martin.. I'm thinking more and more about my unlisted option.. the H2Odyssey integrated pillar valve/diaphragm regulator.. but the threads don't match the LAR tanks I intend to use...... -Scott
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19th February 2008, 10:39	#9 (permalink)
osiris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 317	Re: Regulator Choice - mCCR Quote: (Originally Posted by netmage) Wow... let me know what shipping ends up running... Well, I got 2 X DS-4s coming, with blanking cap and 4 P-Ports and shipping was quoted by martin at EU20 - to Noo zeelund. Thats not bad is it?
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19th February 2008, 18:38	#10 (permalink)
Inspired Trainer New Member Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: London Posts: 63	Re: Regulator Choice - mCCR If you plan on staying shallow the DS4's are adequate. If you plan to go below 100m or so FAR better options are Aqualung Calypso or Scubapro mk2 - both are cheap/easy to service and dont offer IP boost which is preferable on a manual CCR else the o2 add valve/orifice will be over driven in deep water leading to failure or po2 creep ive had calypso's to 180m, mr12 to 150m, mk2 to 150m all without dramas - the ds4's with or without enviro seals will be problematic as you approach 100m hope that helps Mark
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