It appears you have not yet registered with our community. To register for free click here
Rebreather World
       
Go Back Rebreather World Rebreathers, Components and Accessories Closed Circuit Rebreathers Hammerhead Rebreather Forum

Hammerhead / Mentes CCR electronic issue



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11th June 2008, 22:56   #1 (permalink)
Rebreather World Writer
 
mattmexico's Avatar

Current Rebreather/s:
Megalodon
Classic Kiss
Optima
RB80 / Clone

Other Rebreather/s:
Inspiration Classic
Evolution
Prism Topaz
Sport Kiss
RB80 / Clone
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mexico, Q.Roo, Playa del Carmen
Posts: 764
mattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to all
Send a message via Skype™ to mattmexico
Hammerhead / Mentes CCR electronic issue

yo all

I got a Polish diver here in my shop with a Mentes CCR with Hammerhead electronics.

We have some issues of connecting the sensors to the electronics. On both handsets all three sensors say failure and it seems as the handsets do not connect to the sensors.

All three sensors are good between 11.5 and 12.4 mv, so are the wires to the banana block checked with multimeter, the banana block itself going throu connectors with multimeter, connection soldering on other side of block is good, and fresh SWIFT batteries in the handsets. I have sprayed cleaner spray onto the connectors and opened them up a bit to give it better conectivity.

Still the sensors do not connect to the electronics. The diver has done a calibration before flying here and just out of the luggage it does not work anymore.

I do have some experience with my Optima and with it Hammerhead electronics ... and issues with it but never had such a persistant problem ....

Do you have any ideas what I could have missed ?.

greetings
Matt
__________________
N 20' 37.617'
W 87' 04.693'
www.andreaswmatthes.com
(Offline)
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 12th June 2008, 07:43   #2 (permalink)
New Member
 
hhmark's Avatar

Current Rebreather/s:
Inspiration Classic

Other Rebreather/s:
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Worcester U.K.
Posts: 17
hhmark is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: Hammerhead / Mentes CCR electronic issue

Matt,

First check the polarity of the wiring from the sensors to the bannana block.
If this is reversed the handsets read 0.00 and the MV DISPLAY will read 0.

You will see the sensor mv readings if you go to OPT> MV DISPLAY in the handsets.
If you have mv readings then the sensors are connected.

Each sensor must produce at least 40mv during calibration in oxygen.
If not it says "FAIL" for each corresponding cell on the displays.

Usually this happens to all 3 sensor readings if a calibration has been attempted using a gas other than 100% O2.
Often caused by inadequate flushing of O2 before calibration.

So do a calibrate in O2 and see what happens.

Were the batteries left in during transportation?
If so the buttons on the handset may have been pressed?

Hope this helps, I'm sure Kevin J or Joe R will post some info on this later.

Mark

Last edited by hhmark : 12th June 2008 at 10:30.
(Offline)
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 12th June 2008, 12:43   #3 (permalink)
Moderator

 
jradomski's Avatar

Current Rebreather/s:
Inspiration Classic
Sport Kiss
Optima
rEvo
Other CCR
Home Build

Other Rebreather/s:
Inspiration Vision
Evolution
Megalodon
Classic Kiss
rEvo
Other CCR
Home Build
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: "Da" Bronx
Posts: 3,004
jradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond reputejradomski has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Hammerhead / Mentes CCR electronic issue

Quote: (Originally Posted by mattmexico) View Original Post
yo all

I got a Polish diver here in my shop with a Mentes CCR with Hammerhead electronics.

We have some issues of connecting the sensors to the electronics. On both handsets all three sensors say failure and it seems as the handsets do not connect to the sensors.

All three sensors are good between 11.5 and 12.4 mv, so are the wires to the banana block checked with multimeter, the banana block itself going throu connectors with multimeter, connection soldering on other side of block is good, and fresh SWIFT batteries in the handsets. I have sprayed cleaner spray onto the connectors and opened them up a bit to give it better conectivity.

Still the sensors do not connect to the electronics. The diver has done a calibration before flying here and just out of the luggage it does not work anymore.

I do have some experience with my Optima and with it Hammerhead electronics ... and issues with it but never had such a persistant problem ....

Do you have any ideas what I could have missed ?.

greetings
Matt
FAIL indicated a calibration failure on last calibration.. ANY sensor with teh word FAIL is LOCKED OUT until a sucessful calibration.. To see what the systme sees, go to OPT then millivolt display.. it will display an approximate mv reading.. This is not calibrated so differences of at least +/- 1mv are expected..

FLush the loop with o2 once you get good mv readings in air and recalibrate... The handset will reject any cell that it measures at less than 40mv in oxygen..
__________________
Joe Radomski
CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer
ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10

All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
(Online)
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 12th June 2008, 13:30   #4 (permalink)
Rebreather World Writer
 
mattmexico's Avatar

Current Rebreather/s:
Megalodon
Classic Kiss
Optima
RB80 / Clone

Other Rebreather/s:
Inspiration Classic
Evolution
Prism Topaz
Sport Kiss
RB80 / Clone
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mexico, Q.Roo, Playa del Carmen
Posts: 764
mattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to all
Send a message via Skype™ to mattmexico
Re: Hammerhead / Mentes CCR electronic issue

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) View Original Post
FAIL indicated a calibration failure on last calibration.. ANY sensor with teh word FAIL is LOCKED OUT until a sucessful calibration.. To see what the systme sees, go to OPT then millivolt display.. it will display an approximate mv reading.. This is not calibrated so differences of at least +/- 1mv are expected..

FLush the loop with o2 once you get good mv readings in air and recalibrate... The handset will reject any cell that it measures at less than 40mv in oxygen..
yo

Strange thing is it says fail when the unit is switched on but will have a look if I can get into menue. This is the one thing I did not try as it did say fail accross the board

thanx for your time
Matt
__________________
N 20' 37.617'
W 87' 04.693'
www.andreaswmatthes.com
(Offline)
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 12th June 2008, 15:01   #5 (permalink)
Rebreather World Writer
 
mattmexico's Avatar

Current Rebreather/s:
Megalodon
Classic Kiss
Optima
RB80 / Clone

Other Rebreather/s:
Inspiration Classic
Evolution
Prism Topaz
Sport Kiss
RB80 / Clone
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mexico, Q.Roo, Playa del Carmen
Posts: 764
mattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to allmattmexico is a name known to all
Send a message via Skype™ to mattmexico
Re: Hammerhead / Mentes CCR electronic issue

Quote: (Originally Posted by mattmexico) View Original Post
yo

Strange thing is it says fail when the unit is switched on but will have a look if I can get into menue. This is the one thing I did not try as it did say fail accross the board

thanx for your time
Matt
yo

We got it solved with a new calibration after doing all the contact cleaning and checking last night ... and yes, it did calibrate.

I may was a little fast on the forum here with the issue but all your input and PM helped me a lot

thanx a lot again
Matt
__________________
N 20' 37.617'
W 87' 04.693'
www.andreaswmatthes.com
(Offline)
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



RebreatherWorld.Com ©2005 - 2008
Rebreather World, Rebreather World and the Rebreather World Logo are Trademarks
All rights reserved, no republishing of content without written permission.
By using this website you have agreed to our Terms & Conditions of Use

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0