New Hh Or Meg?

***caveseeker7*** · 29th April 2008, 10:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining)

Agreed, But still think that boris still shines above all other units as far a system design goes.

So do I, but it does come at a price. Both literally and figuratively.
Awesome, no doubt, but expensive, large, heavy, and lots and lots of buttons and menus.

But it's the state of the art, as far as electronics go with the Sentinel. Am looking forward to the little Poseidon C-L MK6, it may raise the bar in some aspects.

Quote:

Please explain what you think is silly about it...

Plugging three holes between inhalation and exhalation side with O2 cells that have been known to come apart.

Quote:

Good to here so does that mean its a vote for the Apecs over the hammerhead then?

To be honest, I'm not the biggest fan of either.
Call me backwards, but I like the simplicity of SMI's electronics. All they're missing is a reliable, sturdy, digital pO2 monitor option.

The Laguna Research electronics also look good, at least on paper. I like the idea of having a port that allows an O2-integrated deco computer to be added, without having it as part of the actual setpoint controller. Also gives you choice of deco computers and algorithms. Lots of configuration options, yet simple basics. Batteries and solenoid outside the loop where they belong. Work with a broad range of cells, neat for someone using several different units.

tecdivertraining · 29th April 2008, 11:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Plugging three holes between inhalation and exhalation side with O2 cells that have been known to come apart.

Other than my good pal mike who else has had the cells fall apart, I think he was just looking to pick a fault and start a big thread about it,

Just take the scrubber o-ring in the inspiration as an example thiers more chance of trapping forgetting or damaging that that would cause the same end result than a cell falling apart.

Anyway enjoyed the spirit of the replies, Im out of this one as Im crook and should be resing my self with lots of papering, fine wines and movies,

Cheers

Lancer4545 · 29th April 2008, 11:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining)

Other than my good pal mike who else has had the cells fall apart, I think he was just looking to pick a fault and start a big thread about it,

Just take the scrubber o-ring in the inspiration as an example thiers more chance of trapping forgetting or damaging that that would cause the same end result than a cell falling apart.

Anyway enjoyed the spirit of the replies, Im out of this one as Im crook and should be resing my self with lots of papering, fine wines and movies,

Cheers

Matt,

Your spelling sucks!!!

Lance

tecdivertraining · 29th April 2008, 11:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lancer4545)

Matt,

Your spelling sucks!!!

Lance

Message sent, as In not one for vulgar words in a public arena.

Drmike · 29th April 2008, 12:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining)

Other than my good pal mike who else has had the cells fall apart

Users who reported getting leaks through cell bodies

G4SSG
jradomski

Users who reported having cells fall apart

dive2dive2000
henckell
DrJM
ADward
CCRB

Quote:

Just take the scrubber o-ring in the inspiration as an example thiers more chance of trapping forgetting or damaging that that would cause the same end result than a cell falling apart.

Agreed - and if you read the archives you see Ive ranted on about that design weakness in the classic as much as I have the Meg cell position - and for the same reason.

Hope your feeling better - looking forward to getting wet with yah

Deepdiver · 29th April 2008, 13:30

Mark,

I used to dive with the chap you bought the Inspo with the two Hammerheads off.....

He tried to fix the problem by re-drilling and larger screws.

Mark Chase · 29th April 2008, 14:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by Deepdiver)

Mark,

I used to dive with the chap you bought the Inspo with the two Hammerheads off.....

He tried to fix the problem by re-drilling and larger screws.

I know, I have no idea why Kevin and Joe keep trying to pin it on me. I imediatly sent it to Kevin to have than hand sets replaced and I never dived it in that state.

ATB

Mark

***caveseeker7*** · 29th April 2008, 15:07

Because we don't know that guy, it's much more fun that way and it helps your notoriety.

***diverklondike*** · 29th April 2008, 15:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

I know, I have no idea why Kevin and Joe keep trying to pin it on me. I imediatly sent it to Kevin to have than hand sets replaced and I never dived it in that state.

ATB

Mark

So.... Let's check the facts here....

1) We have confirmed that "someone"

did take a drill to the wrist units.... Potentally this was done by a third party as suggested by "Deepdiver"...

2) This also reconfirms that you did send Kevin J a set of wrist units that had special field developed modifications from an over active drill bit...

We love you Mark....

This is what happens when there have been to many blowouts due to weather and you become the

Dive Safe....

M

***jradomski*** · 29th April 2008, 18:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

I know, I have no idea why Kevin and Joe keep trying to pin it on me. I imediatly sent it to Kevin to have than hand sets replaced and I never dived it in that state.

ATB

Mark

I have never mentioned the drilling as far as I can remember... I leave that up to Kevin..

The only hole I would have recommended in the past to drill out slightly was the wet sensor hole in the bezel..

29th April 2008, 10:24	#41 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,284	Re: New Hh Or Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining) Agreed, But still think that boris still shines above all other units as far a system design goes. So do I, but it does come at a price. Both literally and figuratively. Awesome, no doubt, but expensive, large, heavy, and lots and lots of buttons and menus. But it's the state of the art, as far as electronics go with the Sentinel. Am looking forward to the little Poseidon C-L MK6, it may raise the bar in some aspects. Quote: Please explain what you think is silly about it... Plugging three holes between inhalation and exhalation side with O2 cells that have been known to come apart. Quote: Good to here so does that mean its a vote for the Apecs over the hammerhead then? To be honest, I'm not the biggest fan of either. Call me backwards, but I like the simplicity of SMI's electronics. All they're missing is a reliable, sturdy, digital pO2 monitor option. The Laguna Research electronics also look good, at least on paper. I like the idea of having a port that allows an O2-integrated deco computer to be added, without having it as part of the actual setpoint controller. Also gives you choice of deco computers and algorithms. Lots of configuration options, yet simple basics. Batteries and solenoid outside the loop where they belong. Work with a broad range of cells, neat for someone using several different units. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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29th April 2008, 11:14	#42 (permalink)
tecdivertraining RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Dolphin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phuket, Thailand Posts: 386	Re: New Hh Or Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Plugging three holes between inhalation and exhalation side with O2 cells that have been known to come apart. Other than my good pal mike who else has had the cells fall apart, I think he was just looking to pick a fault and start a big thread about it, Just take the scrubber o-ring in the inspiration as an example thiers more chance of trapping forgetting or damaging that that would cause the same end result than a cell falling apart. Anyway enjoyed the spirit of the replies, Im out of this one as Im crook and should be resing my self with lots of papering, fine wines and movies, Cheers __________________ Mathew Partridge Technical Director Pro-Tech Dive College www.protechdivers.com www.tech-ccr.com
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29th April 2008, 11:28	#43 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 534	Re: New Hh Or Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining) Other than my good pal mike who else has had the cells fall apart, I think he was just looking to pick a fault and start a big thread about it, Just take the scrubber o-ring in the inspiration as an example thiers more chance of trapping forgetting or damaging that that would cause the same end result than a cell falling apart. Anyway enjoyed the spirit of the replies, Im out of this one as Im crook and should be resing my self with lots of papering, fine wines and movies, Cheers Matt, Your spelling sucks!!! Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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29th April 2008, 11:32	#44 (permalink)
tecdivertraining RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Dolphin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Phuket, Thailand Posts: 386	Re: New Hh Or Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by Lancer4545) Matt, Your spelling sucks!!! Lance Message sent, as In not one for vulgar words in a public arena. __________________ Mathew Partridge Technical Director Pro-Tech Dive College www.protechdivers.com www.tech-ccr.com
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29th April 2008, 12:01	#45 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,062	Re: New Hh Or Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by tecdivertraining) Other than my good pal mike who else has had the cells fall apart Users who reported getting leaks through cell bodies G4SSG jradomski Users who reported having cells fall apart dive2dive2000 henckell DrJM ADward CCRB Quote: Just take the scrubber o-ring in the inspiration as an example thiers more chance of trapping forgetting or damaging that that would cause the same end result than a cell falling apart. Agreed - and if you read the archives you see Ive ranted on about that design weakness in the classic as much as I have the Meg cell position - and for the same reason. Hope your feeling better - looking forward to getting wet with yah __________________ Get a girlfriend you sad twat - a Rebreather is an unfaithful mistress - dont blind yourself to her faults just because she goes down on you Last edited by Drmike : 29th April 2008 at 12:18.
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29th April 2008, 13:30	#46 (permalink)
Deepdiver New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Adelaide SA Posts: 94	Re: New Hh Or Meg? Mark, I used to dive with the chap you bought the Inspo with the two Hammerheads off..... He tried to fix the problem by re-drilling and larger screws. __________________ WWW.SEAWAYSCUBA.COM.AU WHAT WE DO IN LIFE ECHO’S IN ETERNITY Learn to dive today, learn to teach tomorrow - then live your life forever!
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29th April 2008, 14:40	#47 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,410	Re: New Hh Or Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by Deepdiver) Mark, I used to dive with the chap you bought the Inspo with the two Hammerheads off..... He tried to fix the problem by re-drilling and larger screws. I know, I have no idea why Kevin and Joe keep trying to pin it on me. I imediatly sent it to Kevin to have than hand sets replaced and I never dived it in that state. ATB Mark __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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29th April 2008, 15:07	#48 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,284	Re: Because we don't know that guy, it's much more fun that way and it helps your notoriety. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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29th April 2008, 15:58	#49 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,436	Re: New Hh Or Meg? Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) I know, I have no idea why Kevin and Joe keep trying to pin it on me. I imediatly sent it to Kevin to have than hand sets replaced and I never dived it in that state. ATB Mark So.... Let's check the facts here.... 1) We have confirmed that "someone" did take a drill to the wrist units.... Potentally this was done by a third party as suggested by "Deepdiver"... 2) This also reconfirms that you did send Kevin J a set of wrist units that had special field developed modifications from an over active drill bit... We love you Mark.... This is what happens when there have been to many blowouts due to weather and you become the Dive Safe.... M
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29th April 2008, 18:21	#50 (permalink)
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