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| Moderator ![]() ![]() Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Numbers of different units out there - the Rebreather World view and over 75% of classic and sport kiss owners. I was planning on finding out what the current numbers are..
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| New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Camarillo, CA
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![]() | Re: Numbers of different units out there - the Rebreather World view Ok so I searched on what units members currently own - Whilst this does not give us total units out there it gives us a good idea of the percentages of each unit and one could make some some estimates. Could everyone double check their control panel and make sure current unit is selected correctly. So the Numbers are in terms of Volume of Units 1 - Inspiration Classic (1160) 2 - Meg (322) 3 - Evolution (299) 4 - Classic Kiss (213) 5 - Inspiraiton Vision (171) 6 - Sport Kiss (154) 7 - Optima (83) 8 - Prism (74) 9 - Boris (71) This is very interesting. Did not expect the numbers to be so high. However, you did leave off all of the SCR units. Now, I know there are more of them, but the list is incomplete without them. -Adam |
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| CK+Shearwater ![]() Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Numbers of different units out there - the Rebreather World view Perhaps it just shows a higher percentage of Inspiration owners aren't cyberdivers... there must be 10000 of them out there if AP can afford its own ANSTI machine!? |
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| Close to that red button ![]() ![]() Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Numbers of different units out there - the Rebreather World view Perhaps it just shows a higher percentage of Inspiration owners aren't cyberdivers... there must be 10000 of them out there if AP can afford its own ANSTI machine!? Don't forget AP had there reg ANSTI machine years ago before the even thought about CCR and they use it for more than CCR.Also AP do more than CCR so can support the CCR side. Not sure on 10k of them but yeah 1k isn't anyway near all of them maybe 1/6 ish. You have to look at how many haven't filled in their details we have 6000 members but the numbers don't add up to 6000
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| WSKD 0001 ![]() Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Numbers of different units out there - the Rebreather World view Not sure on 10k of them but yeah 1k isn't anyway near all of them maybe 1/6 ish. If you go by Dave's calculation (and he should know more than we do ;-), you get to over 8,100 units (Classic, Vision and Evo*5).You have to look at how many haven't filled in their details we have 6000 members but the numbers don't add up to 6000 Makes sense, as I'm sure they passed 6,000 units a few years ago. Cheers,
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| CK+Shearwater ![]() Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Numbers of different units out there - the Rebreather World view Don't forget AP had there reg ANSTI machine years ago before the even thought about CCR and they use it for more than CCR. I though they bought a new one to fit a whole CCR inside and do tests... they certainly didn't have that before, also how seperate are APD and APV really, its obviously just a legal distinction so they can't be sued in completeness.Also AP do more than CCR so can support the CCR side. Point being you need to be making good money to do that, develope the Evoultion, vision, temp stik etc (and support the rehash of the Buddy jacket range, they don't exactly do that every 5min like some manufacturers) Not sure on 10k of them but yeah 1k isn't anyway near all of them maybe 1/6 ish. Well maybe but the 5-6k number has been around for 3 years now... and they've been selling rebreathers the whole time.Its no big deal suffice to say that a smaller % of them are on here than some other brands. You have to look at how many haven't filled in their details we have 6000 members but the numbers don't add up to 6000 Well there are probably alot of non-owning lurkers hoovering up information, I know that what I used to do! :-) |
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| CK #051 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bury St Edmunds, UK
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Actually this is ony accurate if owners update their profile. I bought my KISS form a guy who is still on here as owning it. He has never posted only registered, so we could discount a number of users if, say they have never posted and not logged on for over 6 months. Dave C |
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| Close to that red button ![]() ![]() Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Numbers of different units out there - the Rebreather World view I though they bought a new one to fit a whole CCR inside and do tests... they certainly didn't have that before, also how seperate are APD and APV really, its obviously just a legal distinction so they can't be sued in completeness. yep that one is true but they had the one before when they were only making the autoairPoint being you need to be making good money to do that, develope the Evoultion, vision, temp stik etc (and support the rehash of the Buddy jacket range, they don't exactly do that every 5min like some manufacturers) Point i think Buddy is still popularWell maybe but the 5-6k number has been around for 3 years now... and they've been selling rebreathers the whole time. Could well be and maybe for a number of reasons. Could be that there's been the list etc. for a long time and that there's more info freely available on the inspos than other units, could be inspo divers don't use the internet Its no big deal suffice to say that a smaller % of them are on here than some other brands. ![]() Well there are probably alot of non-owning lurkers hoovering up information, I know that what I used to do! :-) hey no lurking join up fully ![]()
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| So much more to learn ![]() Current Rebreather/s: | Re: Numbers of different units out there - the Rebreather World view Interesting.. It looks like over 75% of meg owners, over 50% of optima owners, and almost 80% of boris owners are on rbworld.. impressive.. We have discussed forum rebreather ownership numbers with several manufacturers, and the general concensus from these discussions is that:1. RBs recently introduced have a lot more units in use as a proportion of units sold than RBs introduced 10 years ago. Not surprising, but probably a ratio of 90% of recently sold rebreathers are used actively, while only 15% of rebreathers sold 7 years ago are used actively. This gives rise to big differences in the membership of forums for particular rebreathers compared to the numbers sold. 2. The more expensive the rebreather, then the more likely it is to be in active use as a proportion of the total number of that model that was sold. 3. Active rebreather users are much more likely to join a forum than an inactive user. That is, forums are a good indicator of the rebreathers in actual use, rather than just the numbers of those sold. Alex Last edited by AD_ward9 : 6th February 2007 at 16:12. |
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