Anyone using OceanReef FFM?

robinzon · 17th December 2006, 21:16

Hey all,

I did see some posts on people using the Ocean Reef Neptune FFM... Are you guys using both ports? (ie two regs) when you dive? If so has anyone used ScubaPro S600 with this mask either in primary or secondary port config... yes I know that some do not like the mask, but be it as it may please let me know...

Thanks

P.S. Anyone taught themselves to use it? (ie w/o class training?)

OceanOpportunity · 17th December 2006, 21:27

I use a Neptune on and off. It works great for OC diving, with or without a reg in the octo port. It does not convert for CCR use...at least not with a simply disassembly or with any factory produced kits.

I have also dived the Scubapro mask...like it alot..has a large skirt which is great for over a dryhood, but doesnt fit well with thin faces. This does easily work with a CCR, as you simply fit the DSV through the mouthpiece opening.

as for training...never been 'trained' on a ffm..been diving hardhat and ffm's work work for years. just time in the water and having a well rehearsed bailout plan in mind should $#!T his the fan. Normally speaking, these are a safer bet than a seperate reg and mask

windymiller · 17th December 2006, 21:36

I have an ocean reef mask, brought it never used it!!! It kept flooding and was a pain to equalise!

I dont think it is designed to be used with a ccr and I wouldnt want to try it either!

I ended up buying the poseidon FFM instead, much better mask but, again, not designed to be used with a ccr

dont know if that helps

MPJScuba · 18th December 2006, 14:22

Hi, What OceanReef mask do you have? Is it the Neptune II? I started with the Neptune II and it worked well for me, after that I got the Neptune space, now I'm using the Preditor. It works like a dream.

I've never used a rebreather with the OceanReef masks, of course, I thought I would give out this information to you. Don't know if this will help you but I thought I would just give you the info.

It's down below.

I'm working on my own rebreather system that willmake it easier for me to get deeper.

Safe diving Matt

NEPTUNE II NIRA with
REBREATHER

The Neptune II mask and even the Neptune II NIRA may be used

with rebreather. The attached picture rappresent the application

of the Neptune II NIRA with a rebreather for military appliaction by

Italian CONSUBIM (Italian Special Forces) Neptune II configuration

allows the application of a rebreather, however due to the differ-

ent models available in the market each one must be connected to

the mask by different ways. The 4 ports available in the mask (the

2 sides, the front and the botton) allows to apply the In and OUT

hoses from and to the rebreather and have additional ports for the

communication unit or for special adapters.

Nad · 18th December 2006, 14:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by robinzon)

Hey all,

I did see some posts on people using the Ocean Reef Neptune FFM... Are you guys using both ports? (ie two regs) when you dive? If so has anyone used ScubaPro S600 with this mask either in primary or secondary port config... yes I know that some do not like the mask, but be it as it may please let me know...

Thanks

P.S. Anyone taught themselves to use it? (ie w/o class training?)

I used to dive one some years ago, but always with separated second reg.
I had a rush flood once and thanks the separated reg I'm still here!

Then I sold it.
I don't know how is is now the evolution of the product but never heard about rebreather compatibility.

Hope this help.

Nad

***caveseeker7*** · 18th December 2006, 18:21

The Ocean Reef, like most other FFMs, can be modified for Rebreather use. Steam Machines used to have pictures of it (and the Scubapro) on their website.

IMHO the mask is below the competitions standard, both in design and quality.
The NIRA 2nd stage isn't much better. Wouldn't dive it of it came for free.

If you like this general mask layout, get either a Dräger Nova R (as in Rebreather) which also has triple ports but better build quality and set up for Rebreather use, or an Interspiro Diveator MK II (AGA mask) and modify it for RB use (and has been used in such fashion for years by the military).

Another mask of like design is the Poseidon, though I've only had a cursory look at it once and never used it.

***jradomski*** · 18th December 2006, 19:35

I have used the NIRA II many times for OC but wouldn;t think of using it for a Rebreather there are better alternatives..

My normal use for the mask is to bring it with me on trips where a chamber is not convenient so that I could do IWR if necessary.. I also use the mask when I have big dives with extended use of oxygen to reduce the risks associated with using oxygen beyond normal exposures..

robinzon · 18th December 2006, 20:51

I have bought the mask for OC diving, I should of explained that in the beginning. What reg are you using with the mask? I love my MK25/S600 would love to use it with the mask I want to make sure I have the best breathing performance I can get... did you use anything but NIRA with it?

NAD, what did you mean by second reg? ie as in spare reg hanging around your neck or two regs in the mask?

MPJScuba, yes I have the NIRA 2 let me know how your experience was... btw did you get any training and what regulator did you use (ie NIRA or something else)... let me know of any tips...

I am planning to use this for OC only.

thanks

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

I have used the NIRA II many times for OC but wouldn;t think of using it for a Rebreather there are better alternatives..

My normal use for the mask is to bring it with me on trips where a chamber is not convenient so that I could do IWR if necessary.. I also use the mask when I have big dives with extended use of oxygen to reduce the risks associated with using oxygen beyond normal exposures..

Nad · 18th December 2006, 21:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by robinzon)

NAD, what did you mean by second reg? ie as in spare reg hanging around your neck or two regs in the mask?

You have the possibility to mount a second reg on the right side of the mask, but I find better to have a separated reg for the reason I told you before.

Nad

shell-back · 18th December 2006, 21:14

Quote:

MPJScuba, yes I have the NIRA 2 let me know how your experience was... btw did you get any training and what regulator did you use (ie NIRA or something else)... let me know of any tips...

I am planning to use this for OC only.
Matt has had more training on this then you would want to think about !

way to go Matt !!!!!!!!

17th December 2006, 21:16	#1 (permalink)
robinzon New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Posts: 34	Anyone using OceanReef FFM? Hey all, I did see some posts on people using the Ocean Reef Neptune FFM... Are you guys using both ports? (ie two regs) when you dive? If so has anyone used ScubaPro S600 with this mask either in primary or secondary port config... yes I know that some do not like the mask, but be it as it may please let me know... Thanks P.S. Anyone taught themselves to use it? (ie w/o class training?)
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17th December 2006, 21:27	#2 (permalink)
OceanOpportunity for a world of water Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Providence, RI USA Posts: 465	Re: Anyone using OceanReef FFM? I use a Neptune on and off. It works great for OC diving, with or without a reg in the octo port. It does not convert for CCR use...at least not with a simply disassembly or with any factory produced kits. I have also dived the Scubapro mask...like it alot..has a large skirt which is great for over a dryhood, but doesnt fit well with thin faces. This does easily work with a CCR, as you simply fit the DSV through the mouthpiece opening. as for training...never been 'trained' on a ffm..been diving hardhat and ffm's work work for years. just time in the water and having a well rehearsed bailout plan in mind should $#!T his the fan. Normally speaking, these are a safer bet than a seperate reg and mask
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17th December 2006, 21:36	#3 (permalink)
windymiller All The Gear, No Idea Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: england Posts: 223	Re: Anyone using OceanReef FFM? I have an ocean reef mask, brought it never used it!!! It kept flooding and was a pain to equalise! I dont think it is designed to be used with a ccr and I wouldnt want to try it either! I ended up buying the poseidon FFM instead, much better mask but, again, not designed to be used with a ccr dont know if that helps
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18th December 2006, 14:22	#4 (permalink)
MPJScuba New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Woodbury, MN, USA Posts: 42	Re: Anyone using OceanReef FFM? Hi, What OceanReef mask do you have? Is it the Neptune II? I started with the Neptune II and it worked well for me, after that I got the Neptune space, now I'm using the Preditor. It works like a dream. I've never used a rebreather with the OceanReef masks, of course, I thought I would give out this information to you. Don't know if this will help you but I thought I would just give you the info. It's down below. I'm working on my own rebreather system that willmake it easier for me to get deeper. Safe diving Matt NEPTUNE II NIRA with REBREATHER The Neptune II mask and even the Neptune II NIRA may be used with rebreather. The attached picture rappresent the application of the Neptune II NIRA with a rebreather for military appliaction by Italian CONSUBIM (Italian Special Forces) Neptune II configuration allows the application of a rebreather, however due to the differ- ent models available in the market each one must be connected to the mask by different ways. The 4 ports available in the mask (the 2 sides, the front and the botton) allows to apply the In and OUT hoses from and to the rebreather and have additional ports for the communication unit or for special adapters. __________________ Henry David Thoreau: I have learned, that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
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18th December 2006, 14:36	#5 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 929	Re: Anyone using OceanReef FFM? Quote: (Originally Posted by robinzon) Hey all, I did see some posts on people using the Ocean Reef Neptune FFM... Are you guys using both ports? (ie two regs) when you dive? If so has anyone used ScubaPro S600 with this mask either in primary or secondary port config... yes I know that some do not like the mask, but be it as it may please let me know... Thanks P.S. Anyone taught themselves to use it? (ie w/o class training?) I used to dive one some years ago, but always with separated second reg. I had a rush flood once and thanks the separated reg I'm still here! Then I sold it. I don't know how is is now the evolution of the product but never heard about rebreather compatibility. Hope this help. Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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18th December 2006, 18:21	#6 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,287	Re: Anyone using OceanReef FFM? The Ocean Reef, like most other FFMs, can be modified for Rebreather use. Steam Machines used to have pictures of it (and the Scubapro) on their website. IMHO the mask is below the competitions standard, both in design and quality. The NIRA 2nd stage isn't much better. Wouldn't dive it of it came for free. If you like this general mask layout, get either a Dräger Nova R (as in Rebreather) which also has triple ports but better build quality and set up for Rebreather use, or an Interspiro Diveator MK II (AGA mask) and modify it for RB use (and has been used in such fashion for years by the military). Another mask of like design is the Poseidon, though I've only had a cursory look at it once and never used it. __________________ Cheers Stefan Be Water, My Friend - Bruce Lee Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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18th December 2006, 19:35	#7 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 2,799	Re: Anyone using OceanReef FFM? I have used the NIRA II many times for OC but wouldn;t think of using it for a Rebreather there are better alternatives.. My normal use for the mask is to bring it with me on trips where a chamber is not convenient so that I could do IWR if necessary.. I also use the mask when I have big dives with extended use of oxygen to reduce the risks associated with using oxygen beyond normal exposures.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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18th December 2006, 20:51	#8 (permalink)
robinzon New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NY Posts: 34	Re: Anyone using OceanReef FFM? I have bought the mask for OC diving, I should of explained that in the beginning. What reg are you using with the mask? I love my MK25/S600 would love to use it with the mask I want to make sure I have the best breathing performance I can get... did you use anything but NIRA with it? NAD, what did you mean by second reg? ie as in spare reg hanging around your neck or two regs in the mask? MPJScuba, yes I have the NIRA 2 let me know how your experience was... btw did you get any training and what regulator did you use (ie NIRA or something else)... let me know of any tips... I am planning to use this for OC only. thanks Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) I have used the NIRA II many times for OC but wouldn;t think of using it for a Rebreather there are better alternatives.. My normal use for the mask is to bring it with me on trips where a chamber is not convenient so that I could do IWR if necessary.. I also use the mask when I have big dives with extended use of oxygen to reduce the risks associated with using oxygen beyond normal exposures..
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18th December 2006, 21:07	#9 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 929	Re: Anyone using OceanReef FFM? Quote: (Originally Posted by robinzon) NAD, what did you mean by second reg? ie as in spare reg hanging around your neck or two regs in the mask? You have the possibility to mount a second reg on the right side of the mask, but I find better to have a separated reg for the reason I told you before. Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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18th December 2006, 21:14	#10 (permalink)
shell-back I do all my own stunts Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Azimuth Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Azimuth Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: middle of US Posts: 481	Re: Anyone using OceanReef FFM? Quote: MPJScuba, yes I have the NIRA 2 let me know how your experience was... btw did you get any training and what regulator did you use (ie NIRA or something else)... let me know of any tips... I am planning to use this for OC only. Matt has had more training on this then you would want to think about ! way to go Matt !!!!!!!! __________________ The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the illusion of knowledge. ----Daniel Boorstin Billy Beal SDITDI IT #3507 Rebreather World FIGJAM commitee member
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