This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!!

narked at 90 · 12th November 2006, 19:11

Hi every one, and a special thank you to every one that has purchased one of my rebreather stands for the kiss or meg, http://www.narkedat90.co.uk/35.html
I'm at that point now where I'm about to have a new batch made, but before i finalise the cnc work i would like some feed back form all the people that have them and from people who would want some thing different about the stands.
so please this is your chance to put your thoughts to me
about material, hole placement, shape
so what are peoples thoughts??....be nice

kind regards john routley

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Stephane · 12th November 2006, 19:25

Wow! What a nice bottle-opener!

Sorry,

narked at 90 · 12th November 2006, 19:32

bugger i missed that market

the pictures are of the first gen stands they have moved on from this piont but you get the idea.
john

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tino Corp.)

Wow! What a nice bottle-opener!

Sorry,

**Dave1w** · 13th November 2006, 07:27

Would it be particularly difficult to integrate a backplate adaptor setup/bracket for a dolphin in to one of these?
Just a thought?
Dave

gibbogeo · 13th November 2006, 08:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by narked at 90)

i would like some feed back form all the people that have them

You asked for it, that are my observation.

I have the classic kiss stand.

I had to enlarge (1 mm) the holes because they were not properly aligned with the bolt on my kiss backplate (#72) and my wing holes (Oxycheq 40).

The corner of the metal handle are quite sharp and i kept scratching my hands when i lifted the rebreather. I made them rounded with a grinder.

A part from that "fine tuning" i think it is very useful in handling the rebreather and in "wearing" it.

Ben Field · 13th November 2006, 09:14

Hi John,

I was very pleased with my SK stand, these are my comments, although some are negative please don't see them as complaints :-) its just easier to see negatives when the rest of it is so good (crawl crawl- PS, whens the cell checker due?!)

Handle, bit rough on bare hands once the Ali starts to "bloom" also interferes with turning exhale red pod, perhaps a lower profile design? This might be alittle tricky as that area is very busy....

Stand piece can flexes slightly when given heavy load (obvious I know and maybe I was using it beyond the design limits!

) Dumpy 3ltr causes a little flex but enough for the removable section to "pop out" of where it meshes with the counterlung case so next time you put it down the stand flexs and slips inside of the case and weakens the structure.

"D-rings" on stand could do with sticking out abit further (being wider) as they are difficult to access with something large in the stand.

The little "feet" where good addition though.

Craig69 · 13th November 2006, 11:51

John,

I had to drill a couple of extra holes in mine to get the wing, backplate and stand to match the counter lung case and I put a chamfer on the lower handle edges they caught the counterlung case and wouldn't allow the stand to sit flush. Other than that it all sits perfectly and does the job.

Craig.

babar · 13th November 2006, 12:33

Mine sits perfectly. The handle could use something to make it more comfortable, although I usually lift with the stand and harness handle together. It's been great otherwise

6Gill · 13th November 2006, 13:11

Great stand! I agree with softening up the hand hold a bit. Also it would be great if the bottom of the stand was a bit stiffer, perhaps a small gusset.

4ster · 13th November 2006, 14:24

I don't fit the market segment at the present time so ignore what I say if I am not making sense.

It would be my preference to make the top part of the handle straight. The curved shape you have now seems like it would make an uncomfortable handle.

If I were buying one of your stands I would probably fit a couple of pieces of UHMW polyethelene half round stock to either side of the handle to make the cross section of the handle round. A straight portion where the hand wraps around the handle would make fitting it easier.

I have to admit it wouldn't look as pretty though. My $0.02.

12th November 2006, 19:25	#2 (permalink)
Stephane Hey! Ho! Let's go! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nantes - France Posts: 725	Re: This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!! Wow! What a nice bottle-opener! Sorry, __________________ Stéphane Hammer-rEvo powered!
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12th November 2006, 19:32	#3 (permalink)
narked at 90 In my own little world Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 996	Re: This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!! bugger i missed that market the pictures are of the first gen stands they have moved on from this piont but you get the idea. john Quote: (Originally Posted by Tino Corp.) Wow! What a nice bottle-opener! Sorry, __________________ CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *WWW.GRPSERVICES.COM*
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13th November 2006, 07:27	#4 (permalink)
Dave1w Born Again Diver! Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: China / UK Posts: 332	Re: This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!! Would it be particularly difficult to integrate a backplate adaptor setup/bracket for a dolphin in to one of these? Just a thought? Dave
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13th November 2006, 08:35	#5 (permalink)
gibbogeo kiss addict Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: italy Posts: 308	Re: This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!! Quote: (Originally Posted by narked at 90) i would like some feed back form all the people that have them You asked for it, that are my observation. I have the classic kiss stand. I had to enlarge (1 mm) the holes because they were not properly aligned with the bolt on my kiss backplate (#72) and my wing holes (Oxycheq 40). The corner of the metal handle are quite sharp and i kept scratching my hands when i lifted the rebreather. I made them rounded with a grinder. A part from that "fine tuning" i think it is very useful in handling the rebreather and in "wearing" it.
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13th November 2006, 09:14	#6 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,486	Re: This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!! Hi John, I was very pleased with my SK stand, these are my comments, although some are negative please don't see them as complaints :-) its just easier to see negatives when the rest of it is so good (crawl crawl- PS, whens the cell checker due?!) Handle, bit rough on bare hands once the Ali starts to "bloom" also interferes with turning exhale red pod, perhaps a lower profile design? This might be alittle tricky as that area is very busy.... Stand piece can flexes slightly when given heavy load (obvious I know and maybe I was using it beyond the design limits! ) Dumpy 3ltr causes a little flex but enough for the removable section to "pop out" of where it meshes with the counterlung case so next time you put it down the stand flexs and slips inside of the case and weakens the structure. "D-rings" on stand could do with sticking out abit further (being wider) as they are difficult to access with something large in the stand. The little "feet" where good addition though. __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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13th November 2006, 11:51	#7 (permalink)
Craig69 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire (Gods Own County), England. Posts: 122	Re: This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!! John, I had to drill a couple of extra holes in mine to get the wing, backplate and stand to match the counter lung case and I put a chamfer on the lower handle edges they caught the counterlung case and wouldn't allow the stand to sit flush. Other than that it all sits perfectly and does the job. Craig. __________________ Craig. www.thornebsac.co.uk
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13th November 2006, 12:33	#8 (permalink)
babar Curmudgeon Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Sport Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 417	Re: This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!! Mine sits perfectly. The handle could use something to make it more comfortable, although I usually lift with the stand and harness handle together. It's been great otherwise __________________ Babar Evolution Plus Sport kiss
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13th November 2006, 13:11	#9 (permalink)
6Gill Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 115	Re: This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!! Great stand! I agree with softening up the hand hold a bit. Also it would be great if the bottom of the stand was a bit stiffer, perhaps a small gusset. __________________ "It's a shame ignorance isn't painful!"
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13th November 2006, 14:24	#10 (permalink)
4ster Addicted to Oxygen Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arlington, Washington Posts: 273	Re: This Is Your Chance To Make A Change!! I don't fit the market segment at the present time so ignore what I say if I am not making sense. It would be my preference to make the top part of the handle straight. The curved shape you have now seems like it would make an uncomfortable handle. If I were buying one of your stands I would probably fit a couple of pieces of UHMW polyethelene half round stock to either side of the handle to make the cross section of the handle round. A straight portion where the hand wraps around the handle would make fitting it easier. I have to admit it wouldn't look as pretty though. My $0.02. __________________ Steve "My problem is that I have trouble reconciling my gross habits with my net income." Errol Flynn
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