Money no object - which Rebreather?

***schford*** · 23rd February 2005, 20:58

So like the title says!

Money is no object which rebreather would you go for and why?

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I'd go for a Meg.

Why - Builld quality is unbeatable, you can choose scrubber you want, including a CIS Lunar radial, you can also choose whatever harness, backplate and first stages you want.

Also it is flexible in terms of size of cylinders you can mount and its light and easy to transport.

I would like to see electronics updated to include, RGBM deco, also maybe a wireless deco wrist mount.

Stuart

***caveseeker7*** · 23rd February 2005, 22:40

Gotta clear up two items up front:
1. There's a difference of what I want to dive (regularly) and what I would like to own (and dive occasionally)
2. You said "rebreather". If money wasn't an object it should be rebreathers!

1. The Prism Topaz - I really like the capabilities in relation to its size and weight, the transparancy, the ease of use and maintainance, the simple and safe electronics in combination with the analog secondary. In the basics this is a brilliant design ahead of most if not all the 'bells and whizzles' out there.

2. The Infinito - what little I know about this rig is quite fascinating, it seems this is the standard against which others should be measured.

3. The MK-5p - pretty much the predecessor of the Infinto, against which CCRs used to be measured. Tripple electronics, hydrophobic scrubber, ability to recover from flood, the gas switchblock, integrated deco ... you name it, it's probably there. PITA & $$$ to maintain and not perfect, but a landmark.

4 SM1600 - the classic of the group, with modern yet simple and safe Prism electronics. Amazing how well this what, 30 year old design, is. The CCR1000 and it derivatives started eCCR diving, and of those I like the 15.5s the best.

5. SportKiss - like the small size and light weight, just love the simple and transparent maintainance and operation.

So all I need now is $8,000 ... $26,000 ... $40,000 ... $55,000 ... $59,000 .... yes, I guess around $59,000 plus change for a shopping spree. And a couple of owners willing to let go.

Oh yeah, and on Janwillem's Rebreather WW website there was an ex-Hans Hass Dräger for sale. I'd take that one, too, purely for history's sake and because Hans got me into the bottomless pit in the first place.

***schford*** · 16th March 2005, 13:51

*bump* cos I can't believe with over 200 members we have this few answers

DoubleTop · 16th March 2005, 13:56

I'd have them all if money was no object, so that any RBW member could borrow them and write reviews

I think technically its a hard question though, many are coming here to find out which one they would have !!!

DT.

JonnyB · 16th March 2005, 15:51

I wish i had some money and then it would certainly be a cis, i have seen it, dove it and i love it... now all i need is money and some someone who will separate form it

/Jonny

ROB DAVIE · 16th March 2005, 16:07

Folks,

I took in the terms "money no object" but added mentally, it has to exist on some real-term basis.

The Cis, once the Rolls-Royce of Rebreather's, is no more. They are around, but support and parts is fading fast.

The Infinito, is, for all intents and purposes, vapour-ware.

The Ourobouros is here. I have seen it. Nay, even fondled it. Talked to Kevin about it. One can get it---IF---you have the ockers, shin-plasters, cubic wonga!

Sadly, I do not. Lovely beast though, and so beautifully put togehther!

Rob

FathomsDown · 16th March 2005, 16:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE)

The Ourobouros is here. I have seen it. Nay, even fondled it. Talked to Kevin about it. One can get it---IF---you have the ockers, shin-plasters, cubic wonga!

Sadly, I do not. Lovely beast though, and so beautifully put togehther!

I was thinking along the same lines but I went for the Meg as my "dream machine".

Why the Meg over the Horror Bus? To put it simply, I visited the Delta-P stand at LIDS and was less than impressed by the build quality and the attitude of the Delta-P staff. I'm an existing VR3 customer and haven't ben impressed by the customer service so the real clincher is the fact that I don't trust them to support the unit well enough; I'd rather take my chances with a company in another country and get th Meg!

***schford*** · 16th March 2005, 16:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by FathomsDown)

I was thinking along the same lines but I went for the Meg as my "dream machine".

Why don't you!

with the current exchange rate fully loaded it comes in a bit cheaper than an Insp with vision electronics!

If you don't want to go out there for training then you can get training in this country to, Chris Hutchins or Dave can do it!

Stuart

FathomsDown · 16th March 2005, 18:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Why don't you!

Because I can't afford a Meg and an Inspo.

***schford*** · 16th March 2005, 18:41

I meant instead of an inspy..... if it is your money no object rebreather - then you could go ahead and get one....

23rd February 2005, 20:58	#1 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Money no object - which Rebreather? So like the title says! Money is no object which rebreather would you go for and why? ******************************** I'd go for a Meg. Why - Builld quality is unbeatable, you can choose scrubber you want, including a CIS Lunar radial, you can also choose whatever harness, backplate and first stages you want. Also it is flexible in terms of size of cylinders you can mount and its light and easy to transport. I would like to see electronics updated to include, RGBM deco, also maybe a wireless deco wrist mount. Stuart __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only** bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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23rd February 2005, 22:40	#2 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,556	Gotta clear up two items up front: 1. There's a difference of what I want to dive (regularly) and what I would like to own (and dive occasionally) 2. You said "rebreather". If money wasn't an object it should be rebreathers! 1. The Prism Topaz - I really like the capabilities in relation to its size and weight, the transparancy, the ease of use and maintainance, the simple and safe electronics in combination with the analog secondary. In the basics this is a brilliant design ahead of most if not all the 'bells and whizzles' out there. 2. The Infinito - what little I know about this rig is quite fascinating, it seems this is the standard against which others should be measured. 3. The MK-5p - pretty much the predecessor of the Infinto, against which CCRs used to be measured. Tripple electronics, hydrophobic scrubber, ability to recover from flood, the gas switchblock, integrated deco ... you name it, it's probably there. PITA & $$$ to maintain and not perfect, but a landmark. 4 SM1600 - the classic of the group, with modern yet simple and safe Prism electronics. Amazing how well this what, 30 year old design, is. The CCR1000 and it derivatives started eCCR diving, and of those I like the 15.5s the best. 5. SportKiss - like the small size and light weight, just love the simple and transparent maintainance and operation. So all I need now is $8,000 ... $26,000 ... $40,000 ... $55,000 ... $59,000 .... yes, I guess around $59,000 plus change for a shopping spree. And a couple of owners willing to let go. Oh yeah, and on Janwillem's Rebreather WW website there was an ex-Hans Hass Dräger for sale. I'd take that one, too, purely for history's sake and because Hans got me into the bottomless pit in the first place.
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16th March 2005, 13:51	#3 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	bump cos I can't believe with over 200 members we have this few answers
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16th March 2005, 13:56	#4 (permalink)
DoubleTop RBW Greeter and How do I? Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Reading, Berks, UK Posts: 145	I'd have them all if money was no object, so that any RBW member could borrow them and write reviews I think technically its a hard question though, many are coming here to find out which one they would have !!! DT.
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16th March 2005, 15:51	#5 (permalink)
JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 991	I wish i had some money and then it would certainly be a cis, i have seen it, dove it and i love it... now all i need is money and some someone who will separate form it /Jonny
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16th March 2005, 16:07	#6 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Folks, I took in the terms "money no object" but added mentally, it has to exist on some real-term basis. The Cis, once the Rolls-Royce of Rebreather's, is no more. They are around, but support and parts is fading fast. The Infinito, is, for all intents and purposes, vapour-ware. The Ourobouros is here. I have seen it. Nay, even fondled it. Talked to Kevin about it. One can get it---IF---you have the ockers, shin-plasters, cubic wonga! Sadly, I do not. Lovely beast though, and so beautifully put togehther! Rob
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16th March 2005, 16:33	#7 (permalink)
FathomsDown New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London Posts: 76	Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE) The Ourobouros is here. I have seen it. Nay, even fondled it. Talked to Kevin about it. One can get it---IF---you have the ockers, shin-plasters, cubic wonga! Sadly, I do not. Lovely beast though, and so beautifully put togehther! I was thinking along the same lines but I went for the Meg as my "dream machine". Why the Meg over the Horror Bus? To put it simply, I visited the Delta-P stand at LIDS and was less than impressed by the build quality and the attitude of the Delta-P staff. I'm an existing VR3 customer and haven't ben impressed by the customer service so the real clincher is the fact that I don't trust them to support the unit well enough; I'd rather take my chances with a company in another country and get th Meg! __________________ Dive deep, stay long, deco for friggin' ages.
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16th March 2005, 16:37	#8 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Quote: (Originally Posted by FathomsDown) I was thinking along the same lines but I went for the Meg as my "dream machine". Why don't you! with the current exchange rate fully loaded it comes in a bit cheaper than an Insp with vision electronics! If you don't want to go out there for training then you can get training in this country to, Chris Hutchins or Dave can do it! Stuart
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16th March 2005, 18:21	#9 (permalink)
FathomsDown New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: London Posts: 76	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) Why don't you! Because I can't afford a Meg and an Inspo. __________________ Dive deep, stay long, deco for friggin' ages.
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16th March 2005, 18:41	#10 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	I meant instead of an inspy..... if it is your money no object rebreather - then you could go ahead and get one....
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