Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual?

sensor330 · 30th October 2006, 22:30

I'm curious how many ECCR diver fly their unit manually and why? I have a YBOD/HH and I let the electronics do the work.

Reason:

1. I spent a hell of a lot on money on it;
2. It can control the SP better then me;
3. less task load; and
4. If I want a manual Rebreather I would have gone the KISS route.

Steve · 30th October 2006, 23:26

I picked manual as I set my setpoint for 1.3 and aim to hold 1.4. If the solenoid fires I kick myself in the ass for not paying attention. However, if it is a task loaded dive I do let the controller do the work.

sensor330 · 31st October 2006, 00:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve)

I picked manual as I set my setpoint for 1.3 and aim to hold 1.4. If the solenoid fires I kick myself in the ass for not paying attention. However, if it is a task loaded dive I do let the controller do the work.

I'm opposite. I tend to listen for the solenoid. After a while I get tuned in to how often it fires and I will 9 times out of 10 know something is wrong before I check my gauges. And yes I do look at my gauges regularly before anybody assumes I don't.

diverrob · 31st October 2006, 01:00

I noticed your poll and voted to let the Rebreather do the work for alot of the same reasons as you. I also noticed that your location is Halifax

Should I see if I can do somethig about keeping it that way (SCTF????)

Rob

sensor330 · 31st October 2006, 01:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverrob)

I noticed your poll and voted to let the Rebreather do the work for alot of the same reasons as you. I also noticed that your location is Halifax

Should I see if I can do somethig about keeping it that way (SCTF????)

Rob

Hey don't be planting any seeds! I thought I left the army behind but instead it seems to follow me

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jhaaja · 31st October 2006, 06:10

There should be a intermediate selection also. I do it sometimes just to keep the skill up.

PCDiver · 31st October 2006, 06:34

During the deep part of the dive I let the controller do the work. I manage the SP during the shallow part or during deco.

silent running · 31st October 2006, 08:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja)

There should be a intermediate selection also. I do it sometimes just to keep the skill up.

Me too. I think the skill is important and thus worthy of practice. I would say that it's 85/15% in favor of ECCR, in my case. Any deco dive will involve man SP at 1.6 for deco at 6M/20ft, last stop. I'm bored anyway, so why not turn off the power and keep SP manually? Good practice... -Andy

Joe · 31st October 2006, 08:55

Manual, always, with min loop volume. I use the electronics as a back up or fail safe in case I screw up.

Reason is it forces you to stay aware and in control of the machine.

Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330)

I'm curious how many ECCR diver fly their unit manually and why? I have a YBOD/HH and I let the electronics do the work.

Reason:

1. I spent a hell of a lot on money on it;
2. It can control the SP better then me;
3. less task load; and
4. If I want a manual Rebreather I would have gone the KISS route.

Flup · 31st October 2006, 08:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe)

Manual, always, with min loop volume. I use the electronics as a back up or fail safe in case I screw up.

Reason is it forces you to stay aware and in control of the machine.

Same here, however on the more intensive dives i will let the electronics do their thing

View Poll Results: ECCR or manual
Manual	15	16.30%
Let the Rebreather do the work	60	65.22%
Sometimes manual, Sometime automatic	17	18.48%
Voters: 92. You may not vote on this poll

30th October 2006, 22:30	#1 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 594	Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? I'm curious how many ECCR diver fly their unit manually and why? I have a YBOD/HH and I let the electronics do the work. Reason: 1. I spent a hell of a lot on money on it; 2. It can control the SP better then me; 3. less task load; and 4. If I want a manual Rebreather I would have gone the KISS route. Last edited by sensor330 : 31st October 2006 at 15:54. Reason: spelling
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30th October 2006, 23:26	#2 (permalink)
Steve Ladies bring a plate Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth - Australia Posts: 1,126	Re: Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? I picked manual as I set my setpoint for 1.3 and aim to hold 1.4. If the solenoid fires I kick myself in the ass for not paying attention. However, if it is a task loaded dive I do let the controller do the work. __________________ WARNING: I contain occasional coarse language, extreme sexual references, nudity, and adult themes, which may offend some people - Usually churchy types.
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31st October 2006, 00:39	#3 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 594	Re: Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by Steve) I picked manual as I set my setpoint for 1.3 and aim to hold 1.4. If the solenoid fires I kick myself in the ass for not paying attention. However, if it is a task loaded dive I do let the controller do the work. I'm opposite. I tend to listen for the solenoid. After a while I get tuned in to how often it fires and I will 9 times out of 10 know something is wrong before I check my gauges. And yes I do look at my gauges regularly before anybody assumes I don't.
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31st October 2006, 01:00	#4 (permalink)
diverrob The Evolution of Diving Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 349	Re: Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? I noticed your poll and voted to let the Rebreather do the work for alot of the same reasons as you. I also noticed that your location is Halifax Should I see if I can do somethig about keeping it that way (SCTF????) Rob
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31st October 2006, 01:21	#5 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 594	Re: Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverrob) I noticed your poll and voted to let the Rebreather do the work for alot of the same reasons as you. I also noticed that your location is Halifax Should I see if I can do somethig about keeping it that way (SCTF????) Rob Hey don't be planting any seeds! I thought I left the army behind but instead it seems to follow me .
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31st October 2006, 06:10	#6 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 885	Re: Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? There should be a intermediate selection also. I do it sometimes just to keep the skill up.
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31st October 2006, 06:34	#7 (permalink)
PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,003	Re: Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? During the deep part of the dive I let the controller do the work. I manage the SP during the shallow part or during deco.
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31st October 2006, 08:44	#8 (permalink)
silent running Mature mouth breather Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: U.S.A. Brooklyn, New York Posts: 1,873	Re: Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja) There should be a intermediate selection also. I do it sometimes just to keep the skill up. Me too. I think the skill is important and thus worthy of practice. I would say that it's 85/15% in favor of ECCR, in my case. Any deco dive will involve man SP at 1.6 for deco at 6M/20ft, last stop. I'm bored anyway, so why not turn off the power and keep SP manually? Good practice... -Andy
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31st October 2006, 08:55	#9 (permalink)
Joe RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 321	Re: Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? Manual, always, with min loop volume. I use the electronics as a back up or fail safe in case I screw up. Reason is it forces you to stay aware and in control of the machine. Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330) I'm curious how many ECCR diver fly their unit manually and why? I have a YBOD/HH and I let the electronics do the work. Reason: 1. I spent a hell of a lot on money on it; 2. It can control the SP better then me; 3. less task load; and 4. If I want a manual Rebreather I would have gone the KISS route.
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31st October 2006, 08:59	#10 (permalink)
Flup Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Ouroboros Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Netherlands Posts: 134	Re: Poll: Do you fly your ECCR manual? Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe) Manual, always, with min loop volume. I use the electronics as a back up or fail safe in case I screw up. Reason is it forces you to stay aware and in control of the machine. Same here, however on the more intensive dives i will let the electronics do their thing __________________ They say i'm all mixed up, maybe that's why i like mixed gas diving !!!!
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