Auto Air v No Auto Air

pchanning · 27th October 2006, 12:21

'Rebreath'er - the clue is in there.

Ivon · 27th October 2006, 12:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by pchanning)

'Rebreath'er - the clue is in there.

But the clue as to 'bailing out' is it isn't working

If he likes to use his onboard tanks for the rebreather only, what did he ask about the auto air for, is it not not a crude regulator??????

Depth-junkie · 27th October 2006, 12:34

Quote:

Wouldn't like to rely on 3lt down to 35m.. reckon you'd suck that through before completing stops

I have no problem just using the inboard 3ltr as bailout on wrecks lying in the 20-35m region. How much bailout gas do you need, as for stops i dont plan on having many when diving the likes of the Thistlegorm on the unit

ATB
Gareth

Moray Brown · 27th October 2006, 12:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ivon)

But the clue as to 'bailing out' is it isn't working

If he likes to use his onboard tanks for the rebreather only, what did he ask about the auto air for, is it not not a crude regulator??????

I said I like the idea... Hence posting the post

Moray Brown · 27th October 2006, 12:41

Fair comment...

Ivon · 27th October 2006, 12:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Deep Star)

I said I like the idea... Hence posting the post

In that case, my advice is to get rid of it, it will play up at some point and there a big old thing that dangle like a bugger.

What 'I' did was to add a normal power inflator and cut the hose down so it sits on my shoulder, cut just enough so you can still orally inflate if needs be, then you will know were it is at all times.

To me to be able to access all of the gas if needs be out ways the possible failure points of having a reg plumbed in as I also have enough gas to get out of any situation, spare O2 and Dil.

Moray Brown · 27th October 2006, 12:48

Fairly doo's......... So in that case what LPi did you use?

Ivon · 27th October 2006, 12:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by Deep Star)

Fairly doo's......... So in that case what LPi did you use?

I fitted one the same as the angled OMS and used by many other manufactures, I don't think it matters too much what make it is, but I would stay away from the Halcyon ones.

***EBT*** · 27th October 2006, 12:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by Depth-junkie)

I have no problem just using the inboard 3ltr as bailout on wrecks lying in the 20-35m region. How much bailout gas do you need, as for stops i dont plan on having many when diving the likes of the Thistlegorm on the unit

Fair point, but dont forget that bailling from constant Po2 to constant Fo2 can result in a requirement for deco stops and not just a slow ascent.

Personally I always hump around a bailout tank, for me if soemthing goes horribly wrong and pushes my RMV through the roof, or for some muppet who might hit me for gas.... but thats another debate entirely.

27th October 2006, 12:21	#11 (permalink)
pchanning PFO free :) Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: fixed! Posts: 454	Re: Auto Air v No Auto Air 'Rebreath'er - the clue is in there. __________________ Cheers Paul The key to enlightenment... is survival. Last edited by pchanning : 27th October 2006 at 12:23. Reason: subtle eh? ;-)
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27th October 2006, 12:29	#12 (permalink)
Ivon Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, East Yorkshire, England Posts: 313	Re: Auto Air v No Auto Air Quote: (Originally Posted by pchanning) 'Rebreath'er - the clue is in there. But the clue as to 'bailing out' is it isn't working If he likes to use his onboard tanks for the rebreather only, what did he ask about the auto air for, is it not not a crude regulator?????? Last edited by Ivon : 27th October 2006 at 12:33.
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27th October 2006, 12:34	#13 (permalink)
Depth-junkie 10/52 Psycho Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wrexham Posts: 291	Re: Auto Air v No Auto Air Quote: Wouldn't like to rely on 3lt down to 35m.. reckon you'd suck that through before completing stops I have no problem just using the inboard 3ltr as bailout on wrecks lying in the 20-35m region. How much bailout gas do you need, as for stops i dont plan on having many when diving the likes of the Thistlegorm on the unit ATB Gareth
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27th October 2006, 12:37	#14 (permalink)
Moray Brown Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WMUK Posts: 230	Re: Auto Air v No Auto Air Quote: (Originally Posted by Ivon) But the clue as to 'bailing out' is it isn't working If he likes to use his onboard tanks for the rebreather only, what did he ask about the auto air for, is it not not a crude regulator?????? I said I like the idea... Hence posting the post
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27th October 2006, 12:41	#15 (permalink)
Moray Brown Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WMUK Posts: 230	Re: Auto Air v No Auto Air Fair comment...
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27th October 2006, 12:43	#16 (permalink)
Ivon Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, East Yorkshire, England Posts: 313	Re: Auto Air v No Auto Air Quote: (Originally Posted by Deep Star) I said I like the idea... Hence posting the post In that case, my advice is to get rid of it, it will play up at some point and there a big old thing that dangle like a bugger. What 'I' did was to add a normal power inflator and cut the hose down so it sits on my shoulder, cut just enough so you can still orally inflate if needs be, then you will know were it is at all times. To me to be able to access all of the gas if needs be out ways the possible failure points of having a reg plumbed in as I also have enough gas to get out of any situation, spare O2 and Dil.
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27th October 2006, 12:48	#17 (permalink)
Moray Brown Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WMUK Posts: 230	Re: Auto Air v No Auto Air Fairly doo's......... So in that case what LPi did you use?
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27th October 2006, 12:54	#18 (permalink)
Ivon Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, East Yorkshire, England Posts: 313	Re: Auto Air v No Auto Air Quote: (Originally Posted by Deep Star) Fairly doo's......... So in that case what LPi did you use? I fitted one the same as the angled OMS and used by many other manufactures, I don't think it matters too much what make it is, but I would stay away from the Halcyon ones.
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27th October 2006, 12:58	#19 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,929	Re: Auto Air v No Auto Air Quote: (Originally Posted by Depth-junkie) I have no problem just using the inboard 3ltr as bailout on wrecks lying in the 20-35m region. How much bailout gas do you need, as for stops i dont plan on having many when diving the likes of the Thistlegorm on the unit Fair point, but dont forget that bailling from constant Po2 to constant Fo2 can result in a requirement for deco stops and not just a slow ascent. Personally I always hump around a bailout tank, for me if soemthing goes horribly wrong and pushes my RMV through the roof, or for some muppet who might hit me for gas.... but thats another debate entirely. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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