Entry documents for sending HH back to USA

Mark Chase · 4th October 2006, 20:01

Can any one help

I am sending two Hammerheads back on Fedex but they have asked me to fill out a form.

It askes if the items have previously claimed US drawback? Yes or No?

It asks were they imported under TSUSA 864.05 Yes or No

I have no idea what they are talking about

Any one know what i should put?

ATB

Mark Chase

jkaterenchuk · 4th October 2006, 20:47

You should enter No for both questions assuming you originally had the good sent from USA to UK.

It is most important that you indicate on the forms the following info so that they are not held up at customs and no import taxes are required.

No Commercial or Retail Value
Goods of US Origin
Warranty return to USA

paulraymaekers · 4th October 2006, 21:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

You should enter No for both questions assuming you originally had the good sent from USA to UK.

It is most important that you indicate on the forms the following info so that they are not held up at customs and no import taxes are required.

No Commercial or Retail Value
Goods of US Origin
Warranty return to USA

or have UPS send it back :-)

regards
paul

Sue · 4th October 2006, 21:34

Mark

We had a huge problem getting back a Meg's head sent to the US for repair. Despite all the sayings in the box ans dispatch documents, stating it was a repair within warraty. It took us a lot of time and money to solve it.

My advice is: go to a UK customs office and ask what you should do. In here (Portugal) they have a form that you fill and they stamp, stating that the product is going to the US for repair (you can add "within warranty" so they don't charge you VAT over the repair price, if any). Send a copy of that customs form to Fedex, mainly don´t blindly trust Fedex. They were the main responsibles for our problem

Cheers

Sue

Mark Chase · 4th October 2006, 21:42

Thanks every one.

I have been told that because i have insured them for £5000 I will have to pay £875 vat on their return to the UK

I then have to claim this back

what a waste of time and paper.

ATB

Mark Chase

jkaterenchuk · 4th October 2006, 21:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

or have UPS send it back :-)

regards
paul

One month ago had HH sent from UK to USA using DHL. No customs problems upon entry into the USA and on time delivery. I have had customs problem before when moving goods between USA and Canada with Fedex.

I agree you should be concerned about any potential import taxes when they are sent back into the UK. Jurgenson Marine should be aware of how to properly complete the commercial invoice and shipping documents when they ship the HH back to you after repair. I think in a previous post you mentioned that the repairs were at no charge and if such on the documents.

If you can get some kind of document from the UK customs as suggested that would be an added measure of safety if things go wrong.

jkaterenchuk · 4th October 2006, 21:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

I have been told that because i have insured them for £5000 I will have to pay £875 vat on their return to the UK

I then have to claim this back

what a waste of time and paper.

ATB

Mark Chase

Mark

I think they are using the insured value as the commercial invoice value when they make this statement. I am not an expert on import rules for the UK but in most other cases the duties are based upon the commerical invoice value indicated by the shipper. In this case that will be when they are shipped back to you. If Jergenson Marine indicates that the commercial value is $0 and indicates that the goods are being sent back following warantee repairs then import duties are generally not charged.

You might want to confirm this with Jergenson Marine and also check with another shipping company.

John

PCDiver · 5th October 2006, 06:20

JM will normally put 50$ as commercial value for repairs. That is below the VAT & import threshold.

graham_hk · 5th October 2006, 09:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

Thanks every one.

I have been told that because i have insured them for £5000 I will have to pay £875 vat on their return to the UK

I then have to claim this back

what a waste of time and paper.

ATB

Mark Chase

Call Fedex and customs - there is a way to do it. I got a brand new but wrong size drysuit back into the UK wiht no import duties or vat

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Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,470	Entry documents for sending HH back to USA Can any one help I am sending two Hammerheads back on Fedex but they have asked me to fill out a form. It askes if the items have previously claimed US drawback? Yes or No? It asks were they imported under TSUSA 864.05 Yes or No I have no idea what they are talking about Any one know what i should put? ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 652	Re: Entry documents for sending HH back to USA You should enter No for both questions assuming you originally had the good sent from USA to UK. It is most important that you indicate on the forms the following info so that they are not held up at customs and no import taxes are required. No Commercial or Retail Value Goods of US Origin Warranty return to USA
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paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,381	Re: Entry documents for sending HH back to USA Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) You should enter No for both questions assuming you originally had the good sent from USA to UK. It is most important that you indicate on the forms the following info so that they are not held up at customs and no import taxes are required. No Commercial or Retail Value Goods of US Origin Warranty return to USA or have UPS send it back :-) regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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4th October 2006, 21:34	#4 (permalink)
Sue Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 161	Re: Entry documents for sending HH back to USA Mark We had a huge problem getting back a Meg's head sent to the US for repair. Despite all the sayings in the box ans dispatch documents, stating it was a repair within warraty. It took us a lot of time and money to solve it. My advice is: go to a UK customs office and ask what you should do. In here (Portugal) they have a form that you fill and they stamp, stating that the product is going to the US for repair (you can add "within warranty" so they don't charge you VAT over the repair price, if any). Send a copy of that customs form to Fedex, mainly don´t blindly trust Fedex. They were the main responsibles for our problem Cheers Sue Last edited by Sue : 4th October 2006 at 21:35. Reason: spelling
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4th October 2006, 21:42	#5 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,470	Re: Entry documents for sending HH back to USA Thanks every one. I have been told that because i have insured them for £5000 I will have to pay £875 vat on their return to the UK I then have to claim this back what a waste of time and paper. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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4th October 2006, 21:47	#6 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 652	Re: Entry documents for sending HH back to USA Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) or have UPS send it back :-) regards paul One month ago had HH sent from UK to USA using DHL. No customs problems upon entry into the USA and on time delivery. I have had customs problem before when moving goods between USA and Canada with Fedex. I agree you should be concerned about any potential import taxes when they are sent back into the UK. Jurgenson Marine should be aware of how to properly complete the commercial invoice and shipping documents when they ship the HH back to you after repair. I think in a previous post you mentioned that the repairs were at no charge and if such on the documents. If you can get some kind of document from the UK customs as suggested that would be an added measure of safety if things go wrong.
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4th October 2006, 21:58	#7 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 652	Re: Entry documents for sending HH back to USA Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) I have been told that because i have insured them for £5000 I will have to pay £875 vat on their return to the UK I then have to claim this back what a waste of time and paper. ATB Mark Chase Mark I think they are using the insured value as the commercial invoice value when they make this statement. I am not an expert on import rules for the UK but in most other cases the duties are based upon the commerical invoice value indicated by the shipper. In this case that will be when they are shipped back to you. If Jergenson Marine indicates that the commercial value is $0 and indicates that the goods are being sent back following warantee repairs then import duties are generally not charged. You might want to confirm this with Jergenson Marine and also check with another shipping company. John
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PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 909	Re: Entry documents for sending HH back to USA JM will normally put 50$ as commercial value for repairs. That is below the VAT & import threshold.
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graham_hk New Member Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss MK 15.X RB80 / Clone Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Philippines Posts: 76	Re: Entry documents for sending HH back to USA Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) Thanks every one. I have been told that because i have insured them for £5000 I will have to pay £875 vat on their return to the UK I then have to claim this back what a waste of time and paper. ATB Mark Chase Call Fedex and customs - there is a way to do it. I got a brand new but wrong size drysuit back into the UK wiht no import duties or vat
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