Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing

CCRDVR · 23rd September 2006, 23:44

Have any of you used the Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebreather Wing? I heard that it has excellent trim characteristics when mounted on the Optima CCR's. Which as we all know is a bit bottom heavy.
Thanks,
CCRDVR

***diverklondike*** · 24th September 2006, 00:32

I think you will find that a DR tech wing will do just as well if not better...

Dive Safe

Mark

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 24th September 2006, 04:07

I am using a Rec Wing with an aluminum back plate. I carry the 6 pound Optima canister weight up high, and I also have about another six pounds hanging up high inside the case from where the top bolt comes in from the back plate. This seems to work really well for me.

Originally, I tried a steel back plate. However, using a lighter back plate and then shifting the weight up high seems to work really well for me. So, I don't need a wing with lots of lift on the bottom. Besides, the Rec Wing has a similar (though not exactly the same) shape, having a flared bottom to support the set up.

I don't know if 35 pounds of lift would be enough. The Rec Wing gives about 50, and that seems just right.

**trob09** · 24th September 2006, 13:27

I've tried the wing on my Meg. I thought it was fine, but nothing to get all worked up over. Trims about the same as my Agir 38lb doubles wing. Might be slightly more streamlined. I find the rear dump valve harder to reach than the Agir wing. Both wings have more than enough lift for me.
T

Benthic · 24th September 2006, 13:38

I'm using one on my Meg as well. I've been very pleased with the wing as it is small and streamlined and allows for plenty of lift down low.

However I must admit that the only wings I've used on the Meg are the CCR-35 and a Halcyon Pioneer 27 so it's not like I've experimented alot. I tried the CCR-35, it seems to be just what I wanted so that's what I'm using.

Brian

CCRDVR · 24th September 2006, 21:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by Benthic)

I'm using one on my Meg as well. I've been very pleased with the wing as it is small and streamlined and allows for plenty of lift down low.

However I must admit that the only wings I've used on the Meg are the CCR-35 and a Halcyon Pioneer 27 so it's not like I've experimented alot. I tried the CCR-35, it seems to be just what I wanted so that's what I'm using.

Brian

Do you use the stainless steele back plate or aluminum?

***diverklondike*** · 24th September 2006, 22:59

I think you will find the Halcyon wing a bit short and light for the Optima.

Nemo1957 · 25th September 2006, 00:33

I use a DR Rec Wing on my Optima. With a drysuit in cold fresh water I have it set up with a SS plate and 2 pounds in each trim pocket on the head, and thats it for lead. Trims perfectly and I dont need to put any air in the wing, with the drysuit. I might try it with a AL plate and no lead at all to see if it trims out OK.

Regarding the wing you mention. 35 lbs of lift would be too small in fresh water and wouldnt lift your head very far above the waves offshore.

Benthic · 25th September 2006, 00:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCRDVR)

Do you use the stainless steele back plate or aluminum?

I use stainless steel plates. In fresh water I use a 2 lb Mark Meadows plate. In salt water I use a full size 6 lb stainless plate. In fresh water I've been diving dry and in salt water I've been diving wet (so far anyway).

Brian

barney · 29th September 2006, 11:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nemo1957)

Regarding the wing you mention. 35 lbs of lift would be too small in fresh water and wouldnt lift your head very far above the waves offshore.

Depends how you weight yourself (i.e., excessively?). In fresh with a Meadows plate it works fine with plenty of lift diving dry; you barely use it. In salt, same thing when diving wet. When diving dry in salt, I use a full back plate and a couple pounds extra. And it worked fine for me the past couple of weeks to 400 feet with double 80s, HD camera, etc. Again, barely need to use it. Lifted me high enough on the surface waiting for recovery though. YMMV.

23rd September 2006, 23:44	#1 (permalink)
CCRDVR New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Annapolis, Maryland Posts: 81	Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing Have any of you used the Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebreather Wing? I heard that it has excellent trim characteristics when mounted on the Optima CCR's. Which as we all know is a bit bottom heavy. Thanks, CCRDVR Last edited by CCRDVR : 24th September 2006 at 00:00. Reason: reworded
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24th September 2006, 00:32	#2 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,461	Re: Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing I think you will find that a DR tech wing will do just as well if not better... Dive Safe Mark
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24th September 2006, 04:07	#3 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 1,937	Re: Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing I am using a Rec Wing with an aluminum back plate. I carry the 6 pound Optima canister weight up high, and I also have about another six pounds hanging up high inside the case from where the top bolt comes in from the back plate. This seems to work really well for me. Originally, I tried a steel back plate. However, using a lighter back plate and then shifting the weight up high seems to work really well for me. So, I don't need a wing with lots of lift on the bottom. Besides, the Rec Wing has a similar (though not exactly the same) shape, having a flared bottom to support the set up. I don't know if 35 pounds of lift would be enough. The Rec Wing gives about 50, and that seems just right. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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24th September 2006, 13:27	#4 (permalink)
trob09 . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 686	Re: Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing I've tried the wing on my Meg. I thought it was fine, but nothing to get all worked up over. Trims about the same as my Agir 38lb doubles wing. Might be slightly more streamlined. I find the rear dump valve harder to reach than the Agir wing. Both wings have more than enough lift for me. T
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24th September 2006, 13:38	#5 (permalink)
Benthic MEGalomaniac Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pensacola, FL USA Posts: 219	Re: Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing I'm using one on my Meg as well. I've been very pleased with the wing as it is small and streamlined and allows for plenty of lift down low. However I must admit that the only wings I've used on the Meg are the CCR-35 and a Halcyon Pioneer 27 so it's not like I've experimented alot. I tried the CCR-35, it seems to be just what I wanted so that's what I'm using. Brian __________________ Well lit rooms will not repel determined beer ninjas.
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24th September 2006, 21:17	#6 (permalink)
CCRDVR New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Annapolis, Maryland Posts: 81	Re: Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing Quote: (Originally Posted by Benthic) I'm using one on my Meg as well. I've been very pleased with the wing as it is small and streamlined and allows for plenty of lift down low. However I must admit that the only wings I've used on the Meg are the CCR-35 and a Halcyon Pioneer 27 so it's not like I've experimented alot. I tried the CCR-35, it seems to be just what I wanted so that's what I'm using. Brian Do you use the stainless steele back plate or aluminum?
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24th September 2006, 22:59	#7 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,461	Re: Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing I think you will find the Halcyon wing a bit short and light for the Optima.
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25th September 2006, 00:33	#8 (permalink)
Nemo1957 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New York Posts: 76	Re: Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing I use a DR Rec Wing on my Optima. With a drysuit in cold fresh water I have it set up with a SS plate and 2 pounds in each trim pocket on the head, and thats it for lead. Trims perfectly and I dont need to put any air in the wing, with the drysuit. I might try it with a AL plate and no lead at all to see if it trims out OK. Regarding the wing you mention. 35 lbs of lift would be too small in fresh water and wouldnt lift your head very far above the waves offshore.
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25th September 2006, 00:46	#9 (permalink)
Benthic MEGalomaniac Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pensacola, FL USA Posts: 219	Re: Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing Quote: (Originally Posted by CCRDVR) Do you use the stainless steele back plate or aluminum? I use stainless steel plates. In fresh water I use a 2 lb Mark Meadows plate. In salt water I use a full size 6 lb stainless plate. In fresh water I've been diving dry and in salt water I've been diving wet (so far anyway). Brian __________________ Well lit rooms will not repel determined beer ninjas.
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29th September 2006, 11:44	#10 (permalink)
barney Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 234	Re: Halcyon Explorer CCR-35 Rebeather Wing Quote: (Originally Posted by Nemo1957) Regarding the wing you mention. 35 lbs of lift would be too small in fresh water and wouldnt lift your head very far above the waves offshore. Depends how you weight yourself (i.e., excessively?). In fresh with a Meadows plate it works fine with plenty of lift diving dry; you barely use it. In salt, same thing when diving wet. When diving dry in salt, I use a full back plate and a couple pounds extra. And it worked fine for me the past couple of weeks to 400 feet with double 80s, HD camera, etc. Again, barely need to use it. Lifted me high enough on the surface waiting for recovery though. YMMV. __________________ Michael C. Barnette ASSOCIATION OF UNDERWATER EXPLORERS
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