100m dive bailout

decoweenie · 27th August 2006, 11:34

IMHO, if you take at least:

1 x 80cf/10L trimix bail-out stage
1 x 80cf/10L nitrox bail-out stage

on your first 100m dive (and your buddy carry the same), it should be a safe bet if you don't plan to stay too long at max depth. Of course, have support on surface to drop additional gas if needed.

No one dies from having too much gas. Be safe!

And you could always trim down (or increase) to whatever you feel comfortable with later on after a few dives at the same depth range.

Just IMHO...

Pierre Farrugia · 27th August 2006, 12:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

IMHO, if you take at least:

1 x 80cf/10L trimix bail-out stage
1 x 80cf/10L nitrox bail-out stage

on your first 100m dive (and your buddy carry the same), it should be a safe bet if you don't plan to stay too long at max depth. Of course, have support on surface to drop additional gas if needed.

No one dies from having too much gas. Be safe!

And you could always trim down (or increase) to whatever you feel comfortable with later on after a few dives at the same depth range.

Just IMHO...

Thanks

ccr_ada · 27th August 2006, 12:45

you could always go back on OC

if u are going to carry that amount of gas you may as well

whats this buddy thing i always find when push comes to shove they have f*cked off for that p/hole he wanted or something

so look at doing the dive solo always !

FORGET ABOUT HELP if you do get some all the better

as for yellow bags well ? when i've surfaced and i cant see the boat how would they see a yellow bag !!

THATS WHAT I THINK OF THAT ONE

i carry 4 cylinders thats it unless bagging spidge up
then carry a 7ltr for that

the rest are
1 air cylinder
1 tyxilix 10/50 or 6/72 depending on dive depth /whats on wreck how i want my head to feel

2 o2 cylinders

sorting all problems out on loop

except loop flood (thats in lap of the gods if you get out)
i dont panic im a calm person just deal with the problem
call it alpinist if you want thats what iv used for 5y now

carrying all that gas just gives u big balls imoa

well hey just my 2p worth

decoweenie · 27th August 2006, 13:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by ccr_ada)

...carrying all that gas just gives u big balls imoa...

Damn if you recommend the safe route.
And damn if you recommend the super-hero route.

What to do...

PS: you don't like big balls ?

Pierre Farrugia · 27th August 2006, 13:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by ccr_ada)

you could always go back on OC

if u are going to carry that amount of gas you may as well

whats this buddy thing i always find when push comes to shove they have f*cked off for that p/hole he wanted or something

so look at doing the dive solo always !

FORGET ABOUT HELP if you do get some all the better

as for yellow bags well ? when i've surfaced and i cant see the boat how would they see a yellow bag !!

THATS WHAT I THINK OF THAT ONE

i carry 4 cylinders thats it unless bagging spidge up
then carry a 7ltr for that

the rest are
1 air cylinder
1 tyxilix 10/50 or 6/72 depending on dive depth /whats on wreck how i want my head to feel

2 o2 cylinders

sorting all problems out on loop

except loop flood (thats in lap of the gods if you get out)
i dont panic im a calm person just deal with the problem
call it alpinist if you want thats what iv used for 5y now

carrying all that gas just gives u big balls imoa

well hey just my 2p worth

For my deep dives, I only dive with 2 buddies of which I trust. I always carry enough bailout, and would not relax diving your way!

ccr_ada · 27th August 2006, 14:22

i go diving to see wrecks NOT my buddies

i am more relaxed diving this way than the way i use to ! now i can concentrate on what im doing and what im seeing not other divers / buddies

look after no1 f*ck the rest ur no 1 under water

whats this iv read ?

Quote:

And you could always trim down (or increase) to whatever you feel comfortable with later on after a few dives at the same depth range.

just say what u meen

f*ck the bail out gas

so as for big balls why carry it in the first place
once ur happy

you will know where im coming from

thats just the way i dive/think you dont have to

Digger · 27th August 2006, 15:04

All well and good, but you'll have to pay for my bailout gas, and it costs double if you've not carried enough by choice.

Alpine is one way to dive, but to be honest it's a dying breed. Quite literally. And you're not diving alpine, you sitll have a load of bailout, it's just the way you've arranged it means you can't get to the surface. Using the same number of tanks and size tanks you could probably put together a set of gases which might get you out without O2 tox or massive narcosis, which your gases don't seem to give you!

Digs.

PCDiver · 27th August 2006, 15:24

The crucial point for a rebreather is the integrity of the loop. Just analyse your entire loop and see where one o-ring separates your loop from the water. Just scarry.

ccr_ada · 27th August 2006, 16:21

as for 100m bail out with two friends you can trust you may be able to see them over 10m away in malta but in the uk u can usually only see dim torches in the distance that may be only 10m away IF AT ALL!

BAIL OUT IS WHAT EVER COMFORT BLANKET YOU NEED TO DO THAT DEPTH

THINK ABOUT IT

wold you buy a car that wouldnt get you to where you wanted to get ?

then would you buy it then put it on a lowloader to go where you wanted to get

J. V. · 27th August 2006, 16:54

Quote:

In case of Co2 , you still can use breather in SCR at 6m.

No, not with a real CO2 hit. The only thing you can do is going on OC.
Try with a canister empty of sorb, and you'll see.

27th August 2006, 11:34	#61 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: 100m dive bailout IMHO, if you take at least: 1 x 80cf/10L trimix bail-out stage 1 x 80cf/10L nitrox bail-out stage on your first 100m dive (and your buddy carry the same), it should be a safe bet if you don't plan to stay too long at max depth. Of course, have support on surface to drop additional gas if needed. No one dies from having too much gas. Be safe! And you could always trim down (or increase) to whatever you feel comfortable with later on after a few dives at the same depth range. Just IMHO... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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27th August 2006, 12:19	#62 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	Re: 100m dive bailout Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) IMHO, if you take at least: 1 x 80cf/10L trimix bail-out stage 1 x 80cf/10L nitrox bail-out stage on your first 100m dive (and your buddy carry the same), it should be a safe bet if you don't plan to stay too long at max depth. Of course, have support on surface to drop additional gas if needed. No one dies from having too much gas. Be safe! And you could always trim down (or increase) to whatever you feel comfortable with later on after a few dives at the same depth range. Just IMHO... Thanks __________________ Pierre Farrugia My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com
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27th August 2006, 12:45	#63 (permalink)
ccr_ada 07971475781 Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: uk sorry G.B. Posts: 221	Re: 100m dive bailout you could always go back on OC if u are going to carry that amount of gas you may as well whats this buddy thing i always find when push comes to shove they have f*cked off for that p/hole he wanted or something so look at doing the dive solo always ! FORGET ABOUT HELP if you do get some all the better as for yellow bags well ? when i've surfaced and i cant see the boat how would they see a yellow bag !! THATS WHAT I THINK OF THAT ONE i carry 4 cylinders thats it unless bagging spidge up then carry a 7ltr for that the rest are 1 air cylinder 1 tyxilix 10/50 or 6/72 depending on dive depth /whats on wreck how i want my head to feel 2 o2 cylinders sorting all problems out on loop except loop flood (thats in lap of the gods if you get out) i dont panic im a calm person just deal with the problem call it alpinist if you want thats what iv used for 5y now carrying all that gas just gives u big balls imoa well hey just my 2p worth __________________ 120M+ UK dive vid http://www.vimeo.com/157145 Dave who
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27th August 2006, 13:15	#64 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: 100m dive bailout Quote: (Originally Posted by ccr_ada) ...carrying all that gas just gives u big balls imoa... Damn if you recommend the safe route. And damn if you recommend the super-hero route. What to do... PS: you don't like big balls ? __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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27th August 2006, 13:40	#65 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	Re: 100m dive bailout Quote: (Originally Posted by ccr_ada) you could always go back on OC if u are going to carry that amount of gas you may as well whats this buddy thing i always find when push comes to shove they have fcked off for that p/hole he wanted or something so look at doing the dive solo always ! FORGET ABOUT HELP if you do get some all the better as for yellow bags well ? when i've surfaced and i cant see the boat how would they see a yellow bag !! THATS WHAT I THINK OF THAT ONE i carry 4 cylinders thats it unless bagging spidge up then carry a 7ltr for that the rest are 1 air cylinder 1 tyxilix 10/50 or 6/72 depending on dive depth /whats on wreck how i want my head to feel 2 o2 cylinders sorting all problems out on loop except loop flood (thats in lap of the gods if you get out) i dont panic im a calm person just deal with the problem call it alpinist if you want thats what iv used for 5y now carrying all that gas just gives u big balls imoa well hey just my 2p worth For my deep dives, I only dive with 2 buddies of which I trust. I always carry enough bailout, and would not relax diving your way! __________________ Pierre Farrugia* My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com
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27th August 2006, 14:22	#66 (permalink)
ccr_ada 07971475781 Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: uk sorry G.B. Posts: 221	Re: 100m dive bailout i go diving to see wrecks NOT my buddies i am more relaxed diving this way than the way i use to ! now i can concentrate on what im doing and what im seeing not other divers / buddies look after no1 fck the rest ur no 1 under water whats this iv read ? Quote:* And you could always trim down (or increase) to whatever you feel comfortable with later on after a few dives at the same depth range. just say what u meen f*ck the bail out gas so as for big balls why carry it in the first place once ur happy you will know where im coming from thats just the way i dive/think you dont have to __________________ 120M+ UK dive vid http://www.vimeo.com/157145 Dave who
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27th August 2006, 15:04	#67 (permalink)
Digger Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 196	Re: 100m dive bailout All well and good, but you'll have to pay for my bailout gas, and it costs double if you've not carried enough by choice. Alpine is one way to dive, but to be honest it's a dying breed. Quite literally. And you're not diving alpine, you sitll have a load of bailout, it's just the way you've arranged it means you can't get to the surface. Using the same number of tanks and size tanks you could probably put together a set of gases which might get you out without O2 tox or massive narcosis, which your gases don't seem to give you! Digs.
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27th August 2006, 15:24	#68 (permalink)
PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 970	Alpinist - one o-ring away from death The crucial point for a rebreather is the integrity of the loop. Just analyse your entire loop and see where one o-ring separates your loop from the water. Just scarry.
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27th August 2006, 16:21	#69 (permalink)
ccr_ada 07971475781 Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: uk sorry G.B. Posts: 221	Re: 100m dive bailout as for 100m bail out with two friends you can trust you may be able to see them over 10m away in malta but in the uk u can usually only see dim torches in the distance that may be only 10m away IF AT ALL! BAIL OUT IS WHAT EVER COMFORT BLANKET YOU NEED TO DO THAT DEPTH THINK ABOUT IT wold you buy a car that wouldnt get you to where you wanted to get ? then would you buy it then put it on a lowloader to go where you wanted to get __________________ 120M+ UK dive vid http://www.vimeo.com/157145 Dave who
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27th August 2006, 16:54	#70 (permalink)
J. V. Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet rEvo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lot & Savoie Posts: 239	Re: 100m dive bailout Quote: In case of Co2 , you still can use breather in SCR at 6m. No, not with a real CO2 hit. The only thing you can do is going on OC. Try with a canister empty of sorb, and you'll see. __________________ -------------------- Jacques NPSFQQA-EDS IT # 007 (remué non agité)
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