Pockets for blob on Harness

IanWood · 21st August 2006, 11:23

Hi All

I have recently got a SS Backplate and harness and would like people’s opinions and suggestions about pockets for twos AP DSMBs with bottle.

I have the Inspiration pocket which goes on the waist strap but this is falling to pieces now. Also I am not too keen on it now as its horizontal and I would prefer a vertical one.

I have seem ones which sort of attach to the side of the backplate, but it doesn't look those would be easy to replace the blob underwater if you need to – maybe this would be ok for the spare second one…

I would like to be able to store two AP DSMBs with bottles and a little underwater notebook thing.

I was thinking of using thick bungee to hold them to the waist strap....

Suggestions and opinions please!

Best regards,

Ian

decoweenie · 21st August 2006, 11:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by IanWood)

I would like to be able to store two AP DSMBs with bottles and a little underwater notebook thing.

Sorry, not a direct answer...

2 AP DSMB with bottles is quite a load.

I keep 1 red AP DSMB with bottle in a suit pocket. The yellow one is smaller and CO2 cartridge-filled so goes to the other suit pocket with spare mask, notes, etc.

I found that keeping too much stuffs around the hardness is cumbersome and get tangled with other stuffs (i.e. stages, camera, scooter, etc). Since you only use the blob at the end of the dive, just keep it clear away until then.

The only bag I bungie to the bottom of the backplate is the liftbag for dives when I plan to bring something up, or put on the anchor to reduce pulling effort from surface.

IanWood · 21st August 2006, 11:58

Good point I could keep one blob on the harness and easy to get to and one on the BP which is harder to get to, but less likley to need to get to unless I jap the reel...I would prefer that

decoweenie · 21st August 2006, 12:09

In the past, I also carry a back-up red DSMB in case I mess up the first attempt.

This 2nd red DSMB is a manual-inflated version so could be folded flat/rolled and placed almost anywhere easily. I store it in a very old Halcyon backplate pocket.

I have seen people roll the 2nd one up and bungied to the side of the backplate as well. Or bottom.

***Beanie*** · 21st August 2006, 12:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

In the past, I also carry a back-up red DSMB in case I mess up the first attempt.

This 2nd red DSMB is a manual-inflated version so could be folded flat/rolled and placed almost anywhere easily. I store it in a very old Halcyon backplate pocket.

I have seen people roll the 2nd one up and bungied to the side of the backplate as well. Or bottom.

bit like this?
That works well for me, AP bottle SMB is in my drysuit.

pchanning · 21st August 2006, 12:15

I just use a bit of bungy off the backplate.

I put blobs to the sides and a lift bag at the bottom.

Its a quick fix that I kept for its simplicity.

HTH
Paul

decoweenie · 21st August 2006, 12:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

bit like this?

Yes and no.

When I place a liftbag or DSMB on the bottom of the backplate, I would like:

able to roll small enough that it doesn't push the unit too far away.
able to place the bag back u/w if changed mind.
able to pass the crotch strap on the "inside" (next to me) instead of pinching the bag with the crotch strap.

The curve on the backplate actually help to hide the thickness of the bag/DSMB so it doesn't put any pressure on my bums.

***Beanie*** · 21st August 2006, 12:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Yes and no.

When I place a liftbag or DSMB on the bottom of the backplate, I would like:

able to roll small enough that it doesn't push the unit too far away.
able to place the bag back u/w if changed mind.
able to pass the crotch strap on the "inside" (next to me) instead of pinching the bag with the crotch strap.

The curve on the backplate actually help to hide the thickness of the bag/DSMB so it doesn't put any pressure on my bums.

That way does 1 & 3 but I can't put it back, well I've never tried, actually I've never taken it out of there in anger (I have on my travel chasis). It does make a nice bit of padding though and I miss it if it isn't there.

decoweenie · 21st August 2006, 12:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

...I can't put it back, well I've never tried, actually I've never taken it out of there in anger...

IMHO, you should be able to put back any gear you able to take out. Or has alternative plan to place it away neatly (i.e. the aforementioned 2nd red DSMB on backplate pocket, I just roll it and put on bungie on bottom of backplate).

The reason is anything stowed away will come loose eventually, and if you can't put it away neatly, you will spend the rest of the dive thinking/worrying about it... unless you are the type of divers who don't care what you look like u/w...

I know someone will come with the u/w fashion police comment soon enough...

but to me, doesn't care is just showing a slopiness mindset and could carry over to other issues.

And yes, I am almost as anal-retentive as Joe R...

21st August 2006, 11:23	#1 (permalink)
IanWood New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 26	Pockets for blob on Harness Hi All I have recently got a SS Backplate and harness and would like people’s opinions and suggestions about pockets for twos AP DSMBs with bottle. I have the Inspiration pocket which goes on the waist strap but this is falling to pieces now. Also I am not too keen on it now as its horizontal and I would prefer a vertical one. I have seem ones which sort of attach to the side of the backplate, but it doesn't look those would be easy to replace the blob underwater if you need to – maybe this would be ok for the spare second one… I would like to be able to store two AP DSMBs with bottles and a little underwater notebook thing. I was thinking of using thick bungee to hold them to the waist strap.... Suggestions and opinions please! Best regards, Ian
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21st August 2006, 11:32	#2 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,509	Re: Pockets for blob on Harness Quote: (Originally Posted by IanWood) I would like to be able to store two AP DSMBs with bottles and a little underwater notebook thing. Sorry, not a direct answer... 2 AP DSMB with bottles is quite a load. I keep 1 red AP DSMB with bottle in a suit pocket. The yellow one is smaller and CO2 cartridge-filled so goes to the other suit pocket with spare mask, notes, etc. I found that keeping too much stuffs around the hardness is cumbersome and get tangled with other stuffs (i.e. stages, camera, scooter, etc). Since you only use the blob at the end of the dive, just keep it clear away until then. The only bag I bungie to the bottom of the backplate is the liftbag for dives when I plan to bring something up, or put on the anchor to reduce pulling effort from surface. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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21st August 2006, 11:58	#3 (permalink)
IanWood New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 26	Re: Pockets for blob on Harness Good point I could keep one blob on the harness and easy to get to and one on the BP which is harder to get to, but less likley to need to get to unless I jap the reel...I would prefer that
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21st August 2006, 12:09	#4 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,509	Re: Pockets for blob on Harness In the past, I also carry a back-up red DSMB in case I mess up the first attempt. This 2nd red DSMB is a manual-inflated version so could be folded flat/rolled and placed almost anywhere easily. I store it in a very old Halcyon backplate pocket. I have seen people roll the 2nd one up and bungied to the side of the backplate as well. Or bottom. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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21st August 2006, 12:12	#5 (permalink)
*Beanie* Cheif tea maker Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,134	Re: Pockets for blob on Harness Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) In the past, I also carry a back-up red DSMB in case I mess up the first attempt. This 2nd red DSMB is a manual-inflated version so could be folded flat/rolled and placed almost anywhere easily. I store it in a very old Halcyon backplate pocket. I have seen people roll the 2nd one up and bungied to the side of the backplate as well. Or bottom. bit like this? That works well for me, AP bottle SMB is in my drysuit. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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21st August 2006, 12:15	#6 (permalink)
pchanning PFO free :) Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: fixed! Posts: 454	Re: Pockets for blob on Harness I just use a bit of bungy off the backplate. I put blobs to the sides and a lift bag at the bottom. Its a quick fix that I kept for its simplicity. HTH Paul __________________ Cheers Paul The key to enlightenment... is survival.
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21st August 2006, 12:19	#7 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,509	Re: Pockets for blob on Harness Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) bit like this? Yes and no. When I place a liftbag or DSMB on the bottom of the backplate, I would like: able to roll small enough that it doesn't push the unit too far away. able to place the bag back u/w if changed mind. able to pass the crotch strap on the "inside" (next to me) instead of pinching the bag with the crotch strap. The curve on the backplate actually help to hide the thickness of the bag/DSMB so it doesn't put any pressure on my bums. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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21st August 2006, 12:42	#8 (permalink)
*Beanie* Cheif tea maker Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,134	Re: Pockets for blob on Harness Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Yes and no. When I place a liftbag or DSMB on the bottom of the backplate, I would like: able to roll small enough that it doesn't push the unit too far away. able to place the bag back u/w if changed mind. able to pass the crotch strap on the "inside" (next to me) instead of pinching the bag with the crotch strap. The curve on the backplate actually help to hide the thickness of the bag/DSMB so it doesn't put any pressure on my bums. That way does 1 & 3 but I can't put it back, well I've never tried, actually I've never taken it out of there in anger (I have on my travel chasis). It does make a nice bit of padding though and I miss it if it isn't there. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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21st August 2006, 12:55	#9 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,509	Re: Pockets for blob on Harness Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) ...I can't put it back, well I've never tried, actually I've never taken it out of there in anger... IMHO, you should be able to put back any gear you able to take out. Or has alternative plan to place it away neatly (i.e. the aforementioned 2nd red DSMB on backplate pocket, I just roll it and put on bungie on bottom of backplate). The reason is anything stowed away will come loose eventually, and if you can't put it away neatly, you will spend the rest of the dive thinking/worrying about it... unless you are the type of divers who don't care what you look like u/w... I know someone will come with the u/w fashion police comment soon enough... but to me, doesn't care is just showing a slopiness mindset and could carry over to other issues. And yes, I am almost as anal-retentive as Joe R... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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