2 computers, or ?

Pierre Farrugia · 28th July 2006, 07:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

Hammer Head set to 25/85GF A VR3 on zero safety on 1.3 set point a Vytec in Gauge mode and a brain for DOTF sort of "oh crap" situations.

ATB

Mark Chase

Mark what have you voted ? 2 computers or one, taking into account that your HH computer resests in middle of dive

Mark Chase · 28th July 2006, 08:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Pierre Farrugia)

Mark what have you voted ? 2 computers or one, taking into account that your HH computer resests in middle of dive

Oi cheeky

Thats why i take two

I voted two computers no tables.

PS: since crimping the threads and application of conductive grease total resets in about 12 hours underwater = 0.

Fingers crossed.

ATB

Mark Chase

divetheworld · 28th July 2006, 11:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by sadave)

Where's the option for one computer + one timer + tables?

VR3, Uwatec bottom timer, and Vplan tables laminated in the pocket.

I guess its a given that if you use tables as a backup, you also have a way of using them.......unles you can count real steady!

VR3, D3 and tables.

Brent

**jmurba** · 31st July 2006, 20:25

I use 2 hs explorers.....the first had problems at the begining because the battery was not properly mounted....
so i bougth an other one and it made both work perfectly now !!!!!
on bid dive they have up to 2 minutes difference in stop on using the same Cf (algo)
As I say i they could be as reliable as a suunto or an uwateck god they would be the better computer in the world

hchoat · 31st July 2006, 20:57

Suunto Vyper in guage mode, Uwatec bottom timer in my pocket, V- Planner generated tables in my wetnotes, and IPIOMA tables in my head.

Gadget · 1st August 2006, 14:16

two computers if both where to fail make a guess at what need doing. even better steal your dive bubbies and hang them out to dry.

paulraymaekers · 1st August 2006, 14:42

first computer HH with GF
first backup cochran 20 (gets you out faster anyway :-)
second backup timer or VR3 (used as timer:-)
last backup.... some brains..

regards
paul

curt · 1st August 2006, 17:19

- VR3 computer, sometimes connected, sometimes just set for 1.2 setpoint.

- OMS (Uwatec) timer in pocket

- Tables generated by Nautilus on slate

mverick · 1st August 2006, 18:48

Old Shearwater on the Meg.

Timer and tables

I have a VR3. Don't take it though.

I have a HSE. Had it for 4 years and it still has problems. 10 dives on it. In 3 or 4 years. I lost track. Flood, Electical, Just wont turn on, Deco messed up. I have been told I've had the worst troubles with it then anyone. I've pretty much given up. Bought it new also.

Hope they enjoy'd my money. I haven't enjoy'd the computer. Never working in 3-4 years right. Is pretty ridiculous. I asked for money back last time. I got the computer mailed back. It's been updated every time it was sent back in. But, not really any good to me if it won't turn on for a second dive, looses half it's numbers, gives bad deco numbers, floods, or capacitor turning into a resistor and eating batteries..... At $12 each...

If it worked. I'd be happy. But, it ain't ever worked. To many bugs. And for being a tester for it. I shouldn't have to pay $1400 for it plus the shipping back every time. I pretty much feel like I got completely robbed of my money.... Not a lot of respect for any aspect of them.

**jmurba** · 1st August 2006, 20:12

hi

I understand....in a small group of divers in france a few HS explorer computers had problems, gene melton has fixed or changed all of them, sorry that he did not do the same for you.

I bought 2, one had only a badly mounted baterry, the second had a depth sensor calibration problem , the computer was returned to gene that changed it.

so far they work......

I love them at the time and will hate them if they fail......

when it work this computer is fantastic.

what can we do ?

We need rgbm or vpm constant ppo2 trimix computers, returning to tables or run times is impossible for me given my multi-level dives
using an aldanian based computer is difficult for me

The cochran is certainly reliable , but one can't switch from CC to OC.
The VR3 also fails

the Hammerhead has't got a bubble model ok GFs are not bad but they are a rgbm or a vpm algo

So what can we do ?

vr3 vpm or hs explorer...or both....

if threre is any alternative please let me know

regards

jean mi

Quote: (Originally Posted by mverick)

Old Shearwater on the Meg.

Timer and tables

I have a VR3. Don't take it though.

I have a HSE. Had it for 4 years and it still has problems. 10 dives on it. In 3 or 4 years. I lost track. Flood, Electical, Just wont turn on, Deco messed up. I have been told I've had the worst troubles with it then anyone. I've pretty much given up. Bought it new also.

Hope they enjoy'd my money. I haven't enjoy'd the computer. Never working in 3-4 years right. Is pretty ridiculous. I asked for money back last time. I got the computer mailed back. It's been updated every time it was sent back in. But, not really any good to me if it won't turn on for a second dive, looses half it's numbers, gives bad deco numbers, floods, or capacitor turning into a resistor and eating batteries..... At $12 each...

If it worked. I'd be happy. But, it ain't ever worked. To many bugs. And for being a tester for it. I shouldn't have to pay $1400 for it plus the shipping back every time. I pretty much feel like I got completely robbed of my money.... Not a lot of respect for any aspect of them.

View Poll Results: What do you use for deco managment
1 computer + tabels	44	31.43%
2 computers + tabels	48	34.29%
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2 computers only	23	16.43%
Other - please state	16	11.43%
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28th July 2006, 07:10	#31 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	Re: 2 computers, or ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) Hammer Head set to 25/85GF A VR3 on zero safety on 1.3 set point a Vytec in Gauge mode and a brain for DOTF sort of "oh crap" situations. ATB Mark Chase Mark what have you voted ? 2 computers or one, taking into account that your HH computer resests in middle of dive __________________ Pierre Farrugia My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com
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28th July 2006, 08:42	#32 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,539	Re: 2 computers, or ? Quote: (Originally Posted by Pierre Farrugia) Mark what have you voted ? 2 computers or one, taking into account that your HH computer resests in middle of dive Oi cheeky Thats why i take two I voted two computers no tables. PS: since crimping the threads and application of conductive grease total resets in about 12 hours underwater = 0. Fingers crossed. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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28th July 2006, 11:37	#33 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,551	Re: 2 computers, or ? Quote: (Originally Posted by sadave) Where's the option for one computer + one timer + tables? VR3, Uwatec bottom timer, and Vplan tables laminated in the pocket. I guess its a given that if you use tables as a backup, you also have a way of using them.......unles you can count real steady! VR3, D3 and tables. Brent __________________ Self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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jmurba wet bear Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france Posts: 713	Re: 2 computers, or ? I use 2 hs explorers.....the first had problems at the begining because the battery was not properly mounted.... so i bougth an other one and it made both work perfectly now !!!!! on bid dive they have up to 2 minutes difference in stop on using the same Cf (algo) As I say i they could be as reliable as a suunto or an uwateck god they would be the better computer in the world
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31st July 2006, 20:57	#35 (permalink)
hchoat Resident Selkie Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL- USA Posts: 226	Re: 2 computers, or ? Suunto Vyper in guage mode, Uwatec bottom timer in my pocket, V- Planner generated tables in my wetnotes, and IPIOMA tables in my head. __________________ Duct tape is like the force... it has a light side and dark side, and it holds the universe together.
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paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,432	Re: 2 computers, or ? first computer HH with GF first backup cochran 20 (gets you out faster anyway :-) second backup timer or VR3 (used as timer:-) last backup.... some brains.. regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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mverick ScubaPimp Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 509	Re: 2 computers, or ? Old Shearwater on the Meg. Timer and tables I have a VR3. Don't take it though. I have a HSE. Had it for 4 years and it still has problems. 10 dives on it. In 3 or 4 years. I lost track. Flood, Electical, Just wont turn on, Deco messed up. I have been told I've had the worst troubles with it then anyone. I've pretty much given up. Bought it new also. Hope they enjoy'd my money. I haven't enjoy'd the computer. Never working in 3-4 years right. Is pretty ridiculous. I asked for money back last time. I got the computer mailed back. It's been updated every time it was sent back in. But, not really any good to me if it won't turn on for a second dive, looses half it's numbers, gives bad deco numbers, floods, or capacitor turning into a resistor and eating batteries..... At $12 each... If it worked. I'd be happy. But, it ain't ever worked. To many bugs. And for being a tester for it. I shouldn't have to pay $1400 for it plus the shipping back every time. I pretty much feel like I got completely robbed of my money.... Not a lot of respect for any aspect of them.
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1st August 2006, 20:12	#40 (permalink)
jmurba wet bear Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: cannes france Posts: 713	Re: 2 computers, or ? hi I understand....in a small group of divers in france a few HS explorer computers had problems, gene melton has fixed or changed all of them, sorry that he did not do the same for you. I bought 2, one had only a badly mounted baterry, the second had a depth sensor calibration problem , the computer was returned to gene that changed it. so far they work...... I love them at the time and will hate them if they fail...... when it work this computer is fantastic. what can we do ? We need rgbm or vpm constant ppo2 trimix computers, returning to tables or run times is impossible for me given my multi-level dives using an aldanian based computer is difficult for me The cochran is certainly reliable , but one can't switch from CC to OC. The VR3 also fails the Hammerhead has't got a bubble model ok GFs are not bad but they are a rgbm or a vpm algo So what can we do ? vr3 vpm or hs explorer...or both.... if threre is any alternative please let me know regards jean mi Quote: (Originally Posted by mverick) Old Shearwater on the Meg. Timer and tables I have a VR3. Don't take it though. I have a HSE. Had it for 4 years and it still has problems. 10 dives on it. In 3 or 4 years. I lost track. Flood, Electical, Just wont turn on, Deco messed up. I have been told I've had the worst troubles with it then anyone. I've pretty much given up. Bought it new also. Hope they enjoy'd my money. I haven't enjoy'd the computer. Never working in 3-4 years right. Is pretty ridiculous. I asked for money back last time. I got the computer mailed back. It's been updated every time it was sent back in. But, not really any good to me if it won't turn on for a second dive, looses half it's numbers, gives bad deco numbers, floods, or capacitor turning into a resistor and eating batteries..... At $12 each... If it worked. I'd be happy. But, it ain't ever worked. To many bugs. And for being a tester for it. I shouldn't have to pay $1400 for it plus the shipping back every time. I pretty much feel like I got completely robbed of my money.... Not a lot of respect for any aspect of them.
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