How tight to pack your scrubber?

nmanfield · 18th July 2006, 20:39

Having had a classic inspo I would be careful of packing the canister too hard for fear of breaking the canister as it's soooo well made

Timbo · 18th July 2006, 21:29

I emptied my scrubber out after it had been packed by my instructor.

I then counted the individual granules, and made a note of how many were in the scrubber.

I then count them individually back in when i put fresh lime in.
It takes about 232 hours to do and in an Inspo there are 403487932 granules.

On a serious note

Tap it pack it and unwrap it, (to quote Terry's Chocolate Oranges).

RonMicjan · 18th July 2006, 23:03

Stuart, you didnt provide the option "like F'N CONCRETE" in your poll, thats what I wanted to vote.

***jradomski*** · 18th July 2006, 23:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by nmanfield)

Having had a classic inspo I would be careful of packing the canister too hard for fear of breaking the canister as it's soooo well made

there is a difference between force packing and tightening it down after it settles.. You can pack the classic like a rock without stressing the cartridge.

if your use the screw to pack it down the you could damage the cartridge..

Scubascooby · 19th July 2006, 11:18

Did my KISS Mod 1 course last month with 2 guys doing cross-over to the Meg after 5-6 years on the KISS. I was a little surprised at their recommendation.

They urged me to pack the Classic KISS by placing a roll of gaffer tape on the top of the mesh and pressing down while tapping. It does allow more to be packed in. I have a fill mark felt-tipped on the inside of the canister to indicate how far to fill.

I am not sure quite how much more should be packed in this way. Doesn't the slime expand slightly due to moisture and absorption ?

I generally don't do the 1/3, 2/3 treatment as I find it just bounces the granules around without settling them. I fill to about 3/4 before doing some tapping, then fill it and tap for a minute or some before applying the gaffer tape treatment.

Peter

divetheworld · 20th July 2006, 21:18

this is the way I do it.

Fill 'er up. Pat, pat, turn, turn, pat, pat, turn, turn.
Repeat until the screw slows down.
then take off the spider and add a bit more sorb.
repeat until the screw slows again.
All done, now drink beer.

Brent

divetheworld · 20th July 2006, 21:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by nmanfield)

Having had a classic inspo I would be careful of packing the canister too hard for fear of breaking the canister as it's soooo well made

Or put your name down for a better one!!!

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/inspi...-want-one.html

Blatent plug.

iani · 20th July 2006, 21:45

I fill the scrubber up to the fill mark visually, then I use the supplied tool to check the level and add/remove 'lime as necessary, the pressure plate is then screwed down as per the instructions, all done.

Ian

Janos · 21st July 2006, 08:25

Pretty tight.

To fill my classic kiss scrubber, I poor in the lime, giving it a bit of a slap around when 1/3 and 2/3 full. Then fill to the brim. I then take my oxygen clean rubber mallet [1] which I bought especially for the purpose and hit the sides a few times to settle it down to the fill line.

I've opened it up after a bit of driving to see whether it had settled or not and it was still tight so I'm happy.

Janos

[1] - Very important that it's O2 clean.

Sutty · 21st July 2006, 12:25

I pack my Classic Kiss scrubber pretty tight - fill 1/3, tap it a bit, fill 2/3, tap a bit, top up put top mesh on and tap whilst pressing down until it won't go down further then adjust level to my mark on the canister and tap again. when I offer it up to the scrubber head there is 2-3mm gap which the draw bar pulls shut while I tap on the sides again. This is for fine-grain sofnolime.
I did once overdo the packing with spherasorb and got loads of dust sludge after the dive, but it was really tight.

Neil

View Poll Results: How tightly do you pack the scrubber?
I cram in as much in as I can.	61	45.19%
I pack it well but not too tightly.	71	52.59%
I don't pack it very tightly at all.	3	2.22%
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18th July 2006, 20:39	#21 (permalink)
nmanfield Megalegalegalegadingdong! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Odessa, Ukraine Posts: 329	Re: How tight to pack your scrubber? Having had a classic inspo I would be careful of packing the canister too hard for fear of breaking the canister as it's soooo well made __________________ Tub 'O Lard
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18th July 2006, 21:29	#22 (permalink)
Timbo New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hertfordshire UK Posts: 63	Re: How tight to pack your scrubber? I emptied my scrubber out after it had been packed by my instructor. I then counted the individual granules, and made a note of how many were in the scrubber. I then count them individually back in when i put fresh lime in. It takes about 232 hours to do and in an Inspo there are 403487932 granules. On a serious note Tap it pack it and unwrap it, (to quote Terry's Chocolate Oranges).
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18th July 2006, 23:03	#23 (permalink)
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18th July 2006, 23:40	#24 (permalink)
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19th July 2006, 11:18	#25 (permalink)
Scubascooby Better Off Out of the EU Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Great Britain Posts: 389	Re: How tight to pack your scrubber? Did my KISS Mod 1 course last month with 2 guys doing cross-over to the Meg after 5-6 years on the KISS. I was a little surprised at their recommendation. They urged me to pack the Classic KISS by placing a roll of gaffer tape on the top of the mesh and pressing down while tapping. It does allow more to be packed in. I have a fill mark felt-tipped on the inside of the canister to indicate how far to fill. I am not sure quite how much more should be packed in this way. Doesn't the slime expand slightly due to moisture and absorption ? I generally don't do the 1/3, 2/3 treatment as I find it just bounces the granules around without settling them. I fill to about 3/4 before doing some tapping, then fill it and tap for a minute or some before applying the gaffer tape treatment. Peter __________________ "dove" is NOT the past tense of "dive" Better off OUT of the EU !
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20th July 2006, 21:18	#26 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,585	Re: How tight to pack your scrubber? this is the way I do it. Fill 'er up. Pat, pat, turn, turn, pat, pat, turn, turn. Repeat until the screw slows down. then take off the spider and add a bit more sorb. repeat until the screw slows again. All done, now drink beer. Brent __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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20th July 2006, 21:19	#27 (permalink)
divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,585	Re: How tight to pack your scrubber? Quote: (Originally Posted by nmanfield) Having had a classic inspo I would be careful of packing the canister too hard for fear of breaking the canister as it's soooo well made Or put your name down for a better one!!! http://www.rebreatherworld.com/inspi...-want-one.html Blatent plug. __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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20th July 2006, 21:45	#28 (permalink)
iani Nefarious Activist Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Middlesex, UK Posts: 334	Re: How tight to pack your scrubber? I fill the scrubber up to the fill mark visually, then I use the supplied tool to check the level and add/remove 'lime as necessary, the pressure plate is then screwed down as per the instructions, all done. Ian
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21st July 2006, 08:25	#29 (permalink)
Janos "Two Sheds" Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Surrey Posts: 600	Re: How tight to pack your scrubber? Pretty tight. To fill my classic kiss scrubber, I poor in the lime, giving it a bit of a slap around when 1/3 and 2/3 full. Then fill to the brim. I then take my oxygen clean rubber mallet [1] which I bought especially for the purpose and hit the sides a few times to settle it down to the fill line. I've opened it up after a bit of driving to see whether it had settled or not and it was still tight so I'm happy. Janos [1] - Very important that it's O2 clean. __________________ You can lead a horse to water but you can't climb a ladder with a large bell in both hands - Vic Reeves www.hellfins.com/shed
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21st July 2006, 12:25	#30 (permalink)
Sutty Classic Kiss diver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glossop, Derbyshire, UK Posts: 800	Re: How tight to pack your scrubber? I pack my Classic Kiss scrubber pretty tight - fill 1/3, tap it a bit, fill 2/3, tap a bit, top up put top mesh on and tap whilst pressing down until it won't go down further then adjust level to my mark on the canister and tap again. when I offer it up to the scrubber head there is 2-3mm gap which the draw bar pulls shut while I tap on the sides again. This is for fine-grain sofnolime. I did once overdo the packing with spherasorb and got loads of dust sludge after the dive, but it was really tight. Neil __________________ Never forget that life is a finite resource.
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